Ah the irony of it
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Josh Gray wrote:
So what will change to prevent it failing again?
People's attitudes. Eventually it will breakdown after 100-200 years but much like a server that has been left on for a long time, it needs to be restarted.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
So what will change to prevent it failing again? People's attitudes.
How can the consitution change people's attitudes? If it can't how can it be the solution you claim it to be?
Josh Gray wrote:
How can the consitution change people's attitudes? If it can't how can it be the solution you claim it to be?
I never said it did you moron. People's attitudes change after being raped, pillaged, and enslaved by the government. They then realize the Constitution and Bill of Rights is a pretty good idea.
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Josh Gray wrote:
How can the consitution change people's attitudes? If it can't how can it be the solution you claim it to be?
I never said it did you moron. People's attitudes change after being raped, pillaged, and enslaved by the government. They then realize the Constitution and Bill of Rights is a pretty good idea.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
People's attitudes change after being raped, pillaged, and enslaved by the government. They then realize the Constitution and Bill of Rights is a pretty good idea.
But those that you claim are raping, pillaging and enslaving would claim that the constitution and bill of rights are good ideas.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
People's attitudes change after being raped, pillaged, and enslaved by the government. They then realize the Constitution and Bill of Rights is a pretty good idea.
But those that you claim are raping, pillaging and enslaving would claim that the constitution and bill of rights are good ideas.
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ict558 wrote:
But these are the same people who run the GOP.
No shit, both parties are corrupt.
ict558 wrote:
What 'stupidity' of 'mine' is being rejected, pray?
ict558 wrote:
I cannot believe that all Tea Partiers are paranoid cowards like you.
They are realists, because in the real world things get serious unless you sit inside all day and go along to get along.
ict558 wrote:
What 'stupidity' of 'mine' is being rejected, pray?
Liberal progressiveness.
ict558 wrote:
I merely ask again, as he "stands squarely with Maryland families for a balanced budget and less spending, deficits and debt[^]", why doesn't he pay for his healthcare from his own pocket, instead of stealing it from the pockets of the hard pressed middle classes?
Why doesn't he just forgo is pay and security detail too?
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
because in the real world things get serious
How would you know?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
unless you sit inside all day and go along to get along
Which is what you do. Too scared to rally for the Tea Party. Unlike you, however, Dr. Harris is prepared to put his life on the line for his country, "Andy served 17 years in the United States Naval Reserve, including active duty during Desert Storm.[^]" But not, apparently, his wallet.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Why doesn't he just forgo is pay
Because he is, I trust, working for that.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and security detail too?
Because he is in the USA.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
because in the real world things get serious
How would you know?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
unless you sit inside all day and go along to get along
Which is what you do. Too scared to rally for the Tea Party. Unlike you, however, Dr. Harris is prepared to put his life on the line for his country, "Andy served 17 years in the United States Naval Reserve, including active duty during Desert Storm.[^]" But not, apparently, his wallet.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Why doesn't he just forgo is pay
Because he is, I trust, working for that.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
and security detail too?
Because he is in the USA.
ict558 wrote:
Unlike you, however, Dr. Harris is prepared to put his life on the line for his country, "Andy served 17 years in the United States Naval Reserve, including active duty during Desert Storm.[^]" But not, apparently, his wallet.
Becoming government property is not patriotism.
ict558 wrote:
Because he is, I trust, working for that.
And his health insurance is not part of that pay?
ict558 wrote:
Because he is in the USA.
But I thought he was bad for demanded his pay (which includes his benefits).
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ict558 wrote:
But these are the same people who run the GOP.
No shit, both parties are corrupt.
ict558 wrote:
What 'stupidity' of 'mine' is being rejected, pray?
ict558 wrote:
I cannot believe that all Tea Partiers are paranoid cowards like you.
They are realists, because in the real world things get serious unless you sit inside all day and go along to get along.
ict558 wrote:
What 'stupidity' of 'mine' is being rejected, pray?
Liberal progressiveness.
ict558 wrote:
I merely ask again, as he "stands squarely with Maryland families for a balanced budget and less spending, deficits and debt[^]", why doesn't he pay for his healthcare from his own pocket, instead of stealing it from the pockets of the hard pressed middle classes?
Why doesn't he just forgo is pay and security detail too?
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Well you see that would be about the fact we export live sheep to the middle east. Our farmers make lots of money out of it but people claim the sheep are treated badly en route. What is more important, the lively hood of our sheep farmers or the welfare of the sheep? What does you constitution say about that?
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ict558 wrote:
Unlike you, however, Dr. Harris is prepared to put his life on the line for his country, "Andy served 17 years in the United States Naval Reserve, including active duty during Desert Storm.[^]" But not, apparently, his wallet.
Becoming government property is not patriotism.
ict558 wrote:
Because he is, I trust, working for that.
And his health insurance is not part of that pay?
ict558 wrote:
Because he is in the USA.
But I thought he was bad for demanded his pay (which includes his benefits).
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Becoming government property is not patriotism.
Riiight. Love to be there when you explain that to the conscripting officer. But, whether it is patriotism or not, he has guts, you don't.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
And his health insurance is not part of that pay?
Evidently not.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
But I thought he was bad for demanded his pay (which includes his benefits).
But I thought he was bad for demanded his pay. Are you a third world immigrant? Neither his healthcare nor his security are part of his pay. They are benefits. They are a charge on the taxpayer. With $174,000 p.a., he earns sufficient to pay health insurance. I was surprised that Representatives required a security detail, I don't condone it. You can always elect another to replace any you 'lose'.
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No, the Tea Partiers and just about everyone else who doesn't get free money from the government want's to be left alone to make (AND KEEP) their money without having some nasty bureaucracy breathing down their necks and forcibly confiscating what they have earned. The poor people get hurt the most by the government because they become dependent on the government, and the government slowly strangles their willpower, making their lives into hopeless hellpits. Eventually the unemployed will be loaded up and locked down into labor camps before the country is fully handed down to the chinese.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
the Tea Partiers and just about everyone else who doesn't get free money from the government want's to be left alone to mak
What a load of hogwash. SS is a very popular program that huge majorities of the population support and, of course there is nothing 'free' about it. Most people pay more in SS taxes than income tax. Nor is unemployement insurance 'free'.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
forcibly confiscating what they have earned.
More hogwash. Income taxes are part of the price we pay for our government. If you don't like it, you are free to move to any locality that has no taxes. (Good luck with that).
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The poor people get hurt the most by the government because they...
More hogwash. Your moral hazard argument really carries no weight. It might carry some weight if the social safety net was anywhere near as generous as most European countries, but it isn't by any stretch of the imagination. And they don't seem to have the 'hopeless hellpits' that you imagine.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
the Tea Partiers and just about everyone else who doesn't get free money from the government want's to be left alone to mak
What a load of hogwash. SS is a very popular program that huge majorities of the population support and, of course there is nothing 'free' about it. Most people pay more in SS taxes than income tax. Nor is unemployement insurance 'free'.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
forcibly confiscating what they have earned.
More hogwash. Income taxes are part of the price we pay for our government. If you don't like it, you are free to move to any locality that has no taxes. (Good luck with that).
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The poor people get hurt the most by the government because they...
More hogwash. Your moral hazard argument really carries no weight. It might carry some weight if the social safety net was anywhere near as generous as most European countries, but it isn't by any stretch of the imagination. And they don't seem to have the 'hopeless hellpits' that you imagine.
Majerus wrote:
If you don't like it, you are free to move to any locality that has no taxes. (Good luck with that).
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come on Harold your assuming he cares for anything outside of the US
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
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come on Harold your assuming he cares for anything outside of the US
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
Simon_Whale wrote:
come on Harold your assuming he cares for anything outside of the US his Mom's house
FTFY...
Rhys "With no power comes no responsibility"
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No, they don't. Obamacare is just a mandate to buy insurance from the same big insurance companies that have been trumping you like a cheap whore. Ontop of that they are raising their rates (which oboomboo promised wouldn't happen). Also, we are going bankrupt, any tax money that goes into this is already spent and it just isn't going to work. You will get an asprin for a heart attack. You will get a free abortion, you will get free vaccines, you will get free SSRIs and opiates, but you will not get healthcare.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No, they don't. Obamacare is just a mandate to buy insurance from the same big insurance companies that have been trumping you like a cheap whore.
I love how they still label this Obamacare, when it's more or less exactly the plan republicans had attempted to push for a decade ago. Obamacare was a public option, this is an unholy monster created by a combination of corporate interests and blatant politicking.
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Simon_Whale wrote:
come on Harold your assuming he cares for anything outside of the US his Mom's house
FTFY...
Rhys "With no power comes no responsibility"
goblinTech wrote:
Simon_Whale wrote: come on Harold your assuming he cares for knows anything outside of the US his Mom's house FTFY...
FIFY
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
No, they don't. Obamacare is just a mandate to buy insurance from the same big insurance companies that have been trumping you like a cheap whore.
I love how they still label this Obamacare, when it's more or less exactly the plan republicans had attempted to push for a decade ago. Obamacare was a public option, this is an unholy monster created by a combination of corporate interests and blatant politicking.
Distind wrote:
Obamacare was a public option, this is an unholy monster created by a combination of corporate interests and blatant politicking.
And obama signed it with pleasure. It was one of his great accomplishments.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
Becoming government property is not patriotism.
Riiight. Love to be there when you explain that to the conscripting officer. But, whether it is patriotism or not, he has guts, you don't.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
And his health insurance is not part of that pay?
Evidently not.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
But I thought he was bad for demanded his pay (which includes his benefits).
But I thought he was bad for demanded his pay. Are you a third world immigrant? Neither his healthcare nor his security are part of his pay. They are benefits. They are a charge on the taxpayer. With $174,000 p.a., he earns sufficient to pay health insurance. I was surprised that Representatives required a security detail, I don't condone it. You can always elect another to replace any you 'lose'.
I see in that entire conversation he completely avoids the point of why he didn't just pay for it himself if government run, subsidies or otherwise health care was against his ethics. This man like most people have ethics of convenience rather than confidence. He like most can't admit when they're wrong because it would make him loose face. After this last election it is clear to me that facts as can be proven with any 5 senses we poses really don't matter. Perception, as CSS grabs as fact, is what decides elections and changes minds. Making things up as quality in politics is as masterful as writers telling a story right now. Why talk about the problems facing our nation or discussing what kind of country we want to create when money and power can't be collected from either of those things. Tea Partiers are going to be sorely disappointed in their saviors just like they are now with Scott Brown. There is a lot of corruption in DC, but it didn't get there by itself. It had to get elected by 'we' the people. We're complicit in it.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
the Tea Partiers and just about everyone else who doesn't get free money from the government want's to be left alone to mak
What a load of hogwash. SS is a very popular program that huge majorities of the population support and, of course there is nothing 'free' about it. Most people pay more in SS taxes than income tax. Nor is unemployement insurance 'free'.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
forcibly confiscating what they have earned.
More hogwash. Income taxes are part of the price we pay for our government. If you don't like it, you are free to move to any locality that has no taxes. (Good luck with that).
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
The poor people get hurt the most by the government because they...
More hogwash. Your moral hazard argument really carries no weight. It might carry some weight if the social safety net was anywhere near as generous as most European countries, but it isn't by any stretch of the imagination. And they don't seem to have the 'hopeless hellpits' that you imagine.
Majerus wrote:
CaptainSeeSharp wrote: forcibly confiscating what they have earned. More hogwash. Income taxes are part of the price we pay for our government. If you don't like it, you are free to move to any locality that has no taxes. (Good luck with that).
He should move to Somalia. It has no government so no taxes and he can do pretty much what ever he wants. Of course the warlords might beg to differ, but no government yay. He's such a tool.
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