So I'm reading an article and...
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article I was reading[^] So I'm reading an article and I usually like to read the comments for amusement when I found this jem: I think that every person on unemployment should work for the state or federal government on a part time basis. this would free up the federal $ to pay for their benefits and we could lay off or fire a lot of the federal and state employees freeing up even more funds. $300 a week at the federal minimum wage is aprox 33 hrs a week. problem solved and a savings at that. Did this guy not get the idea that government people who get fired or layed off draw unemployment too? Aside from that it's not a bad idea. We'd get a lot more service and keep people productive and trained in some meaningful way. The first thing to go was a person's dignity in this recession.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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article I was reading[^] So I'm reading an article and I usually like to read the comments for amusement when I found this jem: I think that every person on unemployment should work for the state or federal government on a part time basis. this would free up the federal $ to pay for their benefits and we could lay off or fire a lot of the federal and state employees freeing up even more funds. $300 a week at the federal minimum wage is aprox 33 hrs a week. problem solved and a savings at that. Did this guy not get the idea that government people who get fired or layed off draw unemployment too? Aside from that it's not a bad idea. We'd get a lot more service and keep people productive and trained in some meaningful way. The first thing to go was a person's dignity in this recession.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
Unemployment aid is always a tricky issue... I mean, you don't want to let people starve and go homeless, but on the other hand, you want to encourage them to get back on their feet, and not get them too reliant on government hand-outs. The problem with that guy's idea, though, is that if you replace many of the permanent government employees with people on unemployment, productivity drops. If you think that line at the DMV is bad NOW, imagine it if the place was being staffed by a bunch of people who are just there part-time to earn their unemployment checks. Now, infrastructure investments, on the other hand... Better highways, high-speed rail lines, etc. There's a huge available labor pool that the government should be using NOW to get us into the 21st century. It's a proven formula... The government hires lots of contractors to build out infrastructure, those contractors need to hire lots of temporary labor to fulfill those contracts. The national infrastructure is improved, a lot of unemployed people have jobs for a while, and everyone benefits. But then, the economy is already recovering, so maybe it's too late... Guess we'll just stay in the 1900s, while Europe and Japan get high-speed rail lines and modern communications systems.
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Unemployment aid is always a tricky issue... I mean, you don't want to let people starve and go homeless, but on the other hand, you want to encourage them to get back on their feet, and not get them too reliant on government hand-outs. The problem with that guy's idea, though, is that if you replace many of the permanent government employees with people on unemployment, productivity drops. If you think that line at the DMV is bad NOW, imagine it if the place was being staffed by a bunch of people who are just there part-time to earn their unemployment checks. Now, infrastructure investments, on the other hand... Better highways, high-speed rail lines, etc. There's a huge available labor pool that the government should be using NOW to get us into the 21st century. It's a proven formula... The government hires lots of contractors to build out infrastructure, those contractors need to hire lots of temporary labor to fulfill those contracts. The national infrastructure is improved, a lot of unemployed people have jobs for a while, and everyone benefits. But then, the economy is already recovering, so maybe it's too late... Guess we'll just stay in the 1900s, while Europe and Japan get high-speed rail lines and modern communications systems.
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)In defence of our shoddiness I like to point out the Virgin run our high speed rail they dont even know how to spell effishshunsie
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article I was reading[^] So I'm reading an article and I usually like to read the comments for amusement when I found this jem: I think that every person on unemployment should work for the state or federal government on a part time basis. this would free up the federal $ to pay for their benefits and we could lay off or fire a lot of the federal and state employees freeing up even more funds. $300 a week at the federal minimum wage is aprox 33 hrs a week. problem solved and a savings at that. Did this guy not get the idea that government people who get fired or layed off draw unemployment too? Aside from that it's not a bad idea. We'd get a lot more service and keep people productive and trained in some meaningful way. The first thing to go was a person's dignity in this recession.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
The real problem is it doesn't save a thing. The posts can't be skilled (training would be required, or they would already be doing the job), or responsible (since you don't know who they are and how they will handle it), or complex (since they in theory will bugger off as soon as they have a job), or handling confidential material (since you don't know what they will do with it). In addition, when are they supposed to look for a job - I assume the government job would be in normal office hours, just like the jobs they are looking for. So it's shitwork, for shitpay - and all the people who do it at the moment become unemployed and have to do it anyway, for less money. Only now, you need a large number of trained, responsible government employees to monitor them, check on them, handle their vacations, sickness, punish them for non-attendance and poor work standard, etc. And you can bet those guys will want more money to do it than the original jobholders... So what you end up with is a class of very pissed off workers, who cause more drain on public finances and create a bigger government. Just what we need! ;P
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In defence of our shoddiness I like to point out the Virgin run our high speed rail they dont even know how to spell effishshunsie
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That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
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article I was reading[^] So I'm reading an article and I usually like to read the comments for amusement when I found this jem: I think that every person on unemployment should work for the state or federal government on a part time basis. this would free up the federal $ to pay for their benefits and we could lay off or fire a lot of the federal and state employees freeing up even more funds. $300 a week at the federal minimum wage is aprox 33 hrs a week. problem solved and a savings at that. Did this guy not get the idea that government people who get fired or layed off draw unemployment too? Aside from that it's not a bad idea. We'd get a lot more service and keep people productive and trained in some meaningful way. The first thing to go was a person's dignity in this recession.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
I havebeen suggesting this for years, except that the unemployed work for tax payers.
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article I was reading[^] So I'm reading an article and I usually like to read the comments for amusement when I found this jem: I think that every person on unemployment should work for the state or federal government on a part time basis. this would free up the federal $ to pay for their benefits and we could lay off or fire a lot of the federal and state employees freeing up even more funds. $300 a week at the federal minimum wage is aprox 33 hrs a week. problem solved and a savings at that. Did this guy not get the idea that government people who get fired or layed off draw unemployment too? Aside from that it's not a bad idea. We'd get a lot more service and keep people productive and trained in some meaningful way. The first thing to go was a person's dignity in this recession.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
I have a question, how is someone who is effectively drafted by the government supposed to find a job working at least 33 hours a week? At best you'd have people who never showed up because they were attempting to find a job. Assuming they're actually doing what unemployment benefits are supposed to let you do. You want a group of people who are supposed to be looking for work, forced to hold a part time job doing something they most likely don't know, and most certainly don't care about, rather than being able to dedicate themselves to finding a job where they'll actually be a productive human being again. Be treated as human I mean, rather than rather literal wage slavery.
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I have a question, how is someone who is effectively drafted by the government supposed to find a job working at least 33 hours a week? At best you'd have people who never showed up because they were attempting to find a job. Assuming they're actually doing what unemployment benefits are supposed to let you do. You want a group of people who are supposed to be looking for work, forced to hold a part time job doing something they most likely don't know, and most certainly don't care about, rather than being able to dedicate themselves to finding a job where they'll actually be a productive human being again. Be treated as human I mean, rather than rather literal wage slavery.
All they should have to do is tell their boss they've got an interview. If you can look for a job while having a job when you're already employed I don't see the difficulty. The only difference is that you'd be productive the rest of the time rather than sitting on the couch for the majority of your time not looking or interviewing. Its more of a "to fill the time." Volunteering would also be a good alternative. I'm sure something like the soup kitchens or something like that could use the help. When I was out of work I looked into it to pass the time. I have a hard time standing still. Luckily I had plenty to do around the house. I have an old house that needs some improvements. Wage slave, that's Chomsky I believe. Don't you find more dignity in working for a wage rather than being handed one for nothing? I hated it.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
