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What are managers of programmers like in the real world?

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    venomation
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    I have heard that many managers simply do not treat programmers they manager well. Someone told me that they assume that programmers work for the length "lines of code", and assume that a programmers value is partly for writing lots of code. Does anyone here have any feedback from this? It would be interesting to find out your opinions. :laugh:

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      I have heard that many managers simply do not treat programmers they manager well. Someone told me that they assume that programmers work for the length "lines of code", and assume that a programmers value is partly for writing lots of code. Does anyone here have any feedback from this? It would be interesting to find out your opinions. :laugh:

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      Dr Walt Fair PE
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      My experience is that it depends on the manager and the programmer involved. Some programmers need to be managed that way and some managers are a**holes. Others are not.

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      Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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        I have heard that many managers simply do not treat programmers they manager well. Someone told me that they assume that programmers work for the length "lines of code", and assume that a programmers value is partly for writing lots of code. Does anyone here have any feedback from this? It would be interesting to find out your opinions. :laugh:

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        Dalek Dave
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        I am a manager. OK it is not in the IT world, I run an accounts office. I look after my Elves (it is what I call the people under me). If they need training, I get them training. If they need a friend, I listen. I like to think I am a good boss. But! I expect 100% from them, and unless there is a reason, I get it. I fight for them, I bleed for them. They know this and will help me when my back is against it. Man Management and Time Management can only do so much. Know the people you are with and act like a boss. They need you to be in charge and make tough decisions and give orders, but they respect you for it if you do it like a man and take no prisoners. It is also good for one's self respect if one can be a boss and act like one from time to time.

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          I am a manager. OK it is not in the IT world, I run an accounts office. I look after my Elves (it is what I call the people under me). If they need training, I get them training. If they need a friend, I listen. I like to think I am a good boss. But! I expect 100% from them, and unless there is a reason, I get it. I fight for them, I bleed for them. They know this and will help me when my back is against it. Man Management and Time Management can only do so much. Know the people you are with and act like a boss. They need you to be in charge and make tough decisions and give orders, but they respect you for it if you do it like a man and take no prisoners. It is also good for one's self respect if one can be a boss and act like one from time to time.

          ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          I always wondered where you got all the time to write on the forums from.

          "When did ignorance become a point of view" - Dilbert

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            I have heard that many managers simply do not treat programmers they manager well. Someone told me that they assume that programmers work for the length "lines of code", and assume that a programmers value is partly for writing lots of code. Does anyone here have any feedback from this? It would be interesting to find out your opinions. :laugh:

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            T2102
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            It depends on the firm you are at. If you are at a software company, that's where you would be treated the best. If you're in finance, except to be treated like a grunt and by dirt by some people.

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              I am a manager. OK it is not in the IT world, I run an accounts office. I look after my Elves (it is what I call the people under me). If they need training, I get them training. If they need a friend, I listen. I like to think I am a good boss. But! I expect 100% from them, and unless there is a reason, I get it. I fight for them, I bleed for them. They know this and will help me when my back is against it. Man Management and Time Management can only do so much. Know the people you are with and act like a boss. They need you to be in charge and make tough decisions and give orders, but they respect you for it if you do it like a man and take no prisoners. It is also good for one's self respect if one can be a boss and act like one from time to time.

              ------------------------------------ I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave CCC League Table Link CCC Link[^]

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              thatraja
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              Not all people have a manager/boss like you. :sigh: Me too. :(( :thumbsup:

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                It depends on the firm you are at. If you are at a software company, that's where you would be treated the best. If you're in finance, except to be treated like a grunt and by dirt by some people.

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                Ted2102 wrote:

                If you are at a software company, that's where you would be treated the best.

                This is far from true in my 40+ years experience of different organisations. You will be treated best in any company that has a culture of caring for its employees, whatever their line of business.

                I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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                  Ted2102 wrote:

                  If you are at a software company, that's where you would be treated the best.

                  This is far from true in my 40+ years experience of different organisations. You will be treated best in any company that has a culture of caring for its employees, whatever their line of business.

                  I must get a clever new signature for 2011.

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                  T2102
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                  I'm not going to argue with that, but in my experience most wall street firms do not care about their employees that much. However, working on wall street is one of the higher paying jobs for programmers.

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