farm subsidies
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For those in the US do you consider farm subsidies a bailout, kickback, payoff, or some other form of big government? Why or why not. I think it's ironic and hypocritical to talk of big government and not talk about farm subsidies.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
That's difficult because farm subsidies help everyone...not just the farmers. Have you noticed the price of milk in the last 30 years. In 1980, the price was $13.21/cwt. There are approximately 12 gallons in a cwt so that was $1.10 per gallon. In 2010, the price was $16.3/cwt or $1.36 per gallon. There has been a lot of fluctuation in the last few years (2009, it was $12.84/cwt), but from 1980 to 2010, the price went up a full $0.26! To me, that seems like a pretty small increase considering how much the cost of living has increased since 1980. The farm subsidies are really there to allow farmers to continue to sell their products at a lower price so that the person making $25,000 a year can afford to buy milk and bread. Farm subsidies aren't helping the average farmer become upper-class. They're helping them survive!
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For those in the US do you consider farm subsidies a bailout, kickback, payoff, or some other form of big government? Why or why not. I think it's ironic and hypocritical to talk of big government and not talk about farm subsidies.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
All forms of subsidies are kickbacks, payoffs, and big government manipulation. It is about control and nothing more. The subsidies go to the farmers that grow the very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap. It also helps hide inflation as inflation shows the most in products like food, fuel, and necessities where demand remains relatively constant.
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All forms of subsidies are kickbacks, payoffs, and big government manipulation. It is about control and nothing more. The subsidies go to the farmers that grow the very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap. It also helps hide inflation as inflation shows the most in products like food, fuel, and necessities where demand remains relatively constant.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
big government manipulation. It is about control and nothing more.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap
Hahaha, you're an idiot.
You have been a member for such a short time, and yet you have realised what an idiot he is very quickly. Well Done!
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
big government manipulation. It is about control and nothing more.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap
Hahaha, you're an idiot.
I'd like to 5 that for the same reason you got from Dave
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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I'd like to 5 that for the same reason you got from Dave
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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All forms of subsidies are kickbacks, payoffs, and big government manipulation. It is about control and nothing more. The subsidies go to the farmers that grow the very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap. It also helps hide inflation as inflation shows the most in products like food, fuel, and necessities where demand remains relatively constant.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
the very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap
What's this? Captain GreenPeace? GMO is a product of the free market. Are you asking for big government intervention?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It also helps hide inflation as inflation shows the most in products like food, fuel, and necessities where demand remains relatively constant.
Yeah. Price inflation due to the increased demand from the developing nations. But your new EcoNazi persona will soon cure all that. Go! Go! Captain GreenPeace!
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
big government manipulation. It is about control and nothing more.
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap
Hahaha, you're an idiot.
Wow, just wow, that was quick
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For those in the US do you consider farm subsidies a bailout, kickback, payoff, or some other form of big government? Why or why not. I think it's ironic and hypocritical to talk of big government and not talk about farm subsidies.
That's called seagull management (or sometimes pigeon management)... Fly in, flap your arms and squawk a lot, crap all over everything and fly out again... by _Damian S_
The quesiton is, how much of you cuntries basic needs do you want contolled by foreigners? Look at China and what its doing to rare earth. You want that for food? You have already got a gun to your head over oil, we all have. Our governments should be subsidising everything the country needs.
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All forms of subsidies are kickbacks, payoffs, and big government manipulation. It is about control and nothing more. The subsidies go to the farmers that grow the very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap. It also helps hide inflation as inflation shows the most in products like food, fuel, and necessities where demand remains relatively constant.
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Where's your diamond? With all the MVP's given out recently I had you as a nailed on certainty to get one for your contributions back here, never mind maybe next year.
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You have been a member for such a short time, and yet you have realised what an idiot he is very quickly. Well Done!
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My 11 month old daughter has already figured that one out. She hasn't learned how to type yet though...
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All forms of subsidies are kickbacks, payoffs, and big government manipulation. It is about control and nothing more. The subsidies go to the farmers that grow the very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap. It also helps hide inflation as inflation shows the most in products like food, fuel, and necessities where demand remains relatively constant.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is about control and nothing more. The subsidies go to the farmers that grow the very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap.
Yeah, we need to control and regulate them so they can't grow GMO! Down with the free market! All hail CaptainHypocrite! :laugh:
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is about control and nothing more. The subsidies go to the farmers that grow the very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap.
Yeah, we need to control and regulate them so they can't grow GMO! Down with the free market! All hail CaptainHypocrite! :laugh:
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)*poke* Sorry Ian had to make sure you were awake, WHEN has Captain Sensible made sense? not even his abusive outbursts makes sense
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
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*poke* Sorry Ian had to make sure you were awake, WHEN has Captain Sensible made sense? not even his abusive outbursts makes sense
As barmey as a sack of badgers Dude, if I knew what I was doing in life, I'd be rich, retired, dating a supermodel and laughing at the rest of you from the sidelines.
I know that. The object of the game is to squeeze past all of his mental blocks and force him to take notice of that fact.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
the very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap
What's this? Captain GreenPeace? GMO is a product of the free market. Are you asking for big government intervention?
CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It also helps hide inflation as inflation shows the most in products like food, fuel, and necessities where demand remains relatively constant.
Yeah. Price inflation due to the increased demand from the developing nations. But your new EcoNazi persona will soon cure all that. Go! Go! Captain GreenPeace!
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ict558 wrote:
GMO is a product of the free market. Are you asking for big government intervention?
No need for big government manipulation to fight big government manipulation. It is simply a matter of property rights. Contamination of the planet's genetic code violates the property of anyone who owns just a single blade of grass.
ict558 wrote:
Yeah. Price inflation due to the increased demand from the developing nations.
No, inflation due to the increase of money supply. As far as food and fuel goes, as demand grows so does supply. Developing nations have nothing to due with your stupid ass leftists bullshit propaganda.
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CaptainSeeSharp wrote:
It is about control and nothing more. The subsidies go to the farmers that grow the very environmentally unfriendly and poisonous GMO crap.
Yeah, we need to control and regulate them so they can't grow GMO! Down with the free market! All hail CaptainHypocrite! :laugh:
Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)Ian Shlasko wrote:
Yeah, we need to control and regulate them so they can't grow GMO! Down with the free market
As I said to the stupid stupid person above... No need for big government manipulation to fight big government manipulation. It is simply a matter of property rights. Contamination of the planet's genetic code violates the property of anyone who owns just a single blade of grass. That is where the Constitution comes in, which is something you scumbag piece of shit leftist automatons hate so much. Click[^]
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Ian Shlasko wrote:
Yeah, we need to control and regulate them so they can't grow GMO! Down with the free market
As I said to the stupid stupid person above... No need for big government manipulation to fight big government manipulation. It is simply a matter of property rights. Contamination of the planet's genetic code violates the property of anyone who owns just a single blade of grass. That is where the Constitution comes in, which is something you scumbag piece of shit leftist automatons hate so much. Click[^]
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Ah, but they're doing it on their own property. Do you think the government should be allowed to determine what is and isn't a "contamination of the planet's genetic code"? Would you trust them with that kind of power? What if they decide your genetic code is "contaminated" and just forbid you from breeding? Wait, that wouldn't change much...
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Ah, but they're doing it on their own property. Do you think the government should be allowed to determine what is and isn't a "contamination of the planet's genetic code"? Would you trust them with that kind of power? What if they decide your genetic code is "contaminated" and just forbid you from breeding? Wait, that wouldn't change much...
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Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)You are pure trash. You need to have your face slammed into the computer screen. I'm just glad its you in that ugly concrete and glass cage in the crowded city of degeneracy and theft.
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You are pure trash. You need to have your face slammed into the computer screen. I'm just glad its you in that ugly concrete and glass cage in the crowded city of degeneracy and theft.
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So no response then? Which is it to be? Property rights or government regulation? Are farmers free to do whatever they want on and to their own property, or aren't they?
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You are pure trash. You need to have your face slammed into the computer screen. I'm just glad its you in that ugly concrete and glass cage in the crowded city of degeneracy and theft.
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Frankly I find it hard to believe any of these ideas and thoughts, these convictions of conspiracy and unkempt tyranny, accusations of intentional harm through genetic manipulation, simply put: the bullshit that comes out of your figurative mouth, are actually yours. As soon as you are confronted with a request to expound on your radical assertions (as Ian has so kindly done - I would 6 it if I could) you retreat to the safe-haven of derogatory nonsense more fitting of my perception of your intellectual capacity. If you cannot explain your thoughts, ideas and beliefs to someone without spewing utter trash like this, then you clearly don't understand them yourself. Do yourself a huge favour and think for yourself. Apparently we "leftists" are not the only "mindless automatons" around here. PS The only place I've ever seen the term "leftist" in the way you use it was in the Unabomber manifesto - I'm guessing you're one of his nut-bag, libertarian fans, right?
