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  • L Luc Pattyn

    Comments don't exist in forums; "general" replies in programming forums, and all replies in non-programming forums yield debator points. And as Chris already pointed out, signing in wasn't logged for years. BTW: The FAQ says "A member receives points for posting a new comment." Makes me wonder how they determine the newness. Some people post lots of "good answer" messages wherever they can. :-D

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    Dalek Dave
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    If I make a comment on a reply in the Q&A I am supposed to get a participation point.

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      If I make a comment on a reply in the Q&A I am supposed to get a participation point.

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      yes. This has worked before. And I don't really agree, if a comment-like reply in a forum yields debator or authority points, why would it yield points in a different category for Q&A? Look at the different ways to get participant points, posting a comment simply does not fit in that list. :)

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      • L Luc Pattyn

        yes. This has worked before. And I don't really agree, if a comment-like reply in a forum yields debator or authority points, why would it yield points in a different category for Q&A? Look at the different ways to get participant points, posting a comment simply does not fit in that list. :)

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        thatraja
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        So sounds like Participant points is right now. But they still didn't updated the comments points to any category.

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        • L Luc Pattyn

          yes. This has worked before. And I don't really agree, if a comment-like reply in a forum yields debator or authority points, why would it yield points in a different category for Q&A? Look at the different ways to get participant points, posting a comment simply does not fit in that list. :)

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          How to gain Participant points... MVP, 1000 points once a year maybe. Newsletter opt in, 50 points, once only. Sign-up, 100 points, once only. Daily sign-in, 1 point, once a day. Weekly Survey,5 points, once a week. The only other way shown to get points is Post Comment, 1 point for the comment, up to 25 a day. It is this one that I am not getting awarded. I understand that if I post an answer, then I am rewarded for that answer, but as I am commenting on a particular Subject or article, that is a participation within that subject. EG, If I edit, and get the edit points, and then leave a reason for my edit, (which I think is the correct procedure), then I have participated. That ought to give the point as a particpant point, not a debator point, for there was nodebate, but merely information provided as to why I have improved the thing I edited.

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            How to gain Participant points... MVP, 1000 points once a year maybe. Newsletter opt in, 50 points, once only. Sign-up, 100 points, once only. Daily sign-in, 1 point, once a day. Weekly Survey,5 points, once a week. The only other way shown to get points is Post Comment, 1 point for the comment, up to 25 a day. It is this one that I am not getting awarded. I understand that if I post an answer, then I am rewarded for that answer, but as I am commenting on a particular Subject or article, that is a participation within that subject. EG, If I edit, and get the edit points, and then leave a reason for my edit, (which I think is the correct procedure), then I have participated. That ought to give the point as a particpant point, not a debator point, for there was nodebate, but merely information provided as to why I have improved the thing I edited.

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            Luc Pattyn
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            1. yes, posting a comment should be rewarded. 2. I don't know whether "post comment in Q&A" actually gets rewarded at all right now, I stay well away of Q&A. 3. My point is: all contributions to participation, except "post comment in Q&A", are of a more macroscopic nature. Everything one reads. posts, replies, comments, votes, bookmarks, could be construed as participation but isn't, why would "posting a comment" be then? It really should yield debator or authority points, nothing else. :)

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            • L Luc Pattyn

              1. yes, posting a comment should be rewarded. 2. I don't know whether "post comment in Q&A" actually gets rewarded at all right now, I stay well away of Q&A. 3. My point is: all contributions to participation, except "post comment in Q&A", are of a more macroscopic nature. Everything one reads. posts, replies, comments, votes, bookmarks, could be construed as participation but isn't, why would "posting a comment" be then? It really should yield debator or authority points, nothing else. :)

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              thatraja
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              Luc Pattyn wrote:

              It really should yield debator or authority points, nothing else.

              Better Authority points because It is related to the Q/A(Which is calculating in Authority points too).

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                Luc Pattyn wrote:

                It really should yield debator or authority points, nothing else.

                Better Authority points because It is related to the Q/A(Which is calculating in Authority points too).

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                Luc Pattyn
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                IMO it should be consistent with how the forums are handled. And yes too many replies are called "general" and awarded debator points there, I have had a couple of discussions with Chris about that already. It starts with the default "message type"; it could easily be improved, it may be hard to get it (almost) right though. :)

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                • L Luc Pattyn

                  IMO it should be consistent with how the forums are handled. And yes too many replies are called "general" and awarded debator points there, I have had a couple of discussions with Chris about that already. It starts with the default "message type"; it could easily be improved, it may be hard to get it (almost) right though. :)

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                  Luc Pattyn wrote:

                  And yes too many replies are called "general" and awarded debator points there,

                  Yeah it should be included in Authority points.

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                  • L Luc Pattyn

                    1. yes, posting a comment should be rewarded. 2. I don't know whether "post comment in Q&A" actually gets rewarded at all right now, I stay well away of Q&A. 3. My point is: all contributions to participation, except "post comment in Q&A", are of a more macroscopic nature. Everything one reads. posts, replies, comments, votes, bookmarks, could be construed as participation but isn't, why would "posting a comment" be then? It really should yield debator or authority points, nothing else. :)

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                    Dalek Dave
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                    As I said, it is not a debate, it is an improvement nut not an answer. So it cannot be Debator Points, and it cannot be Authority Points. But the participation is still there.

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                    • T thatraja

                      Luc Pattyn wrote:

                      And yes too many replies are called "general" and awarded debator points there,

                      Yeah it should be included in Authority points.

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                      Dalek Dave
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                      How can clarifying a question be an Authority Point? Answering it, yes, but to inform that an action has been taken is participation.

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                      • D Dalek Dave

                        How can clarifying a question be an Authority Point? Answering it, yes, but to inform that an action has been taken is participation.

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                        Only in technical forums DD. Also I have seen many answers/links in general message, that's why.

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                        • L Luc Pattyn

                          yes. This has worked before. And I don't really agree, if a comment-like reply in a forum yields debator or authority points, why would it yield points in a different category for Q&A? Look at the different ways to get participant points, posting a comment simply does not fit in that list. :)

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                          What else could comments be? As Dave pointed out, a comment on an answer is not necessarily a contribution that adds to the answer, nor is it (always) a debate, a question, or (necessarily) organisation.

                          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                          • T thatraja

                            Only in technical forums DD. Also I have seen many answers/links in general message, that's why.

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                            Dalek Dave
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                            See Mr Maunder's response below.

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                              What else could comments be? As Dave pointed out, a comment on an answer is not necessarily a contribution that adds to the answer, nor is it (always) a debate, a question, or (necessarily) organisation.

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                              Dalek Dave
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                              Thanks Chris, that was what I was, very poorly, attempting to point out. (I presume the recount will be complete by the time I crawl my carcass into work in about 5 hours time :) )

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                                See Mr Maunder's response below.

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                                thatraja
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                                Yeah, You win. So when we will get back our platinum participant? :)

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                                • T thatraja

                                  Yeah, You win. So when we will get back our platinum participant? :)

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                                  Dalek Dave
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                                  When I awake, hopefully! Off to bed.

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                                  • D Dalek Dave

                                    Thanks Chris, that was what I was, very poorly, attempting to point out. (I presume the recount will be complete by the time I crawl my carcass into work in about 5 hours time :) )

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                                    Unfortunately I second guessed myself after Luc's comment and restarted the rep recalc. It will be done in around 13 hrs. Sorry - I should have just the final bit continue on and it would have been finished soon.

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                                    • D Dalek Dave

                                      When I awake, hopefully! Off to bed.

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                                      Have Sweat dreams DD :zzz: .

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                                      • C Chris Maunder

                                        What else could comments be? As Dave pointed out, a comment on an answer is not necessarily a contribution that adds to the answer, nor is it (always) a debate, a question, or (necessarily) organisation.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                        Luc Pattyn
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                                        The "comment" may or may not have technical merit. If it has (e.g. "I would have used an extension method here"), it would yield Authority in a forum; and if it hasn't (e.g. "I like the way you explained that"), it would yield Debator in a forum (even when no debate is taking place). I fail to see why that would be any different in Q&A. :)

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                                        • D Dalek Dave

                                          As I said, it is not a debate, it is an improvement nut not an answer. So it cannot be Debator Points, and it cannot be Authority Points. But the participation is still there.

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                                          Luc Pattyn
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                                          posting "please clarify" or "good answer" in a programming forum yields debator points (assuming message type "general"). posting "Elvis has died" or a CCC clue in the Lounge yields debator points. :|

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