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  • _ _Erik_

    AspDotNetDev wrote:

    I wasn't sure if I should put this in "Clever Code" or "Hall of Shame".

    Hall of shame, definitely, specially considering that this line would do the same job:

    Return String.Format("{0} {1} {2}", firstName, middleName, lastName).Replace(" ", " ").Trim()

    Yes, it works even if firstName, middleName and/or lastName are null. Edit: Forgot the Replace

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    AspDotNetDev
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    Indeed, that may act very similar. However, here are two problems I see with that code:

    1. What if, for whatever reason, a user has two consecutive spaces in their first name? Given the variety of cultures, I wouldn't discount this.
    2. This version creates several extra and unnecessary strings.
    3. Unnecessary CPU time spent scanning the name parts (first/middle/last) for space to replace.

    Still, with how compact it is, I'd say those are fine trade offs.

    Flummery:

    This is not the age of reason, this is the age of flummery, and the day of the devious approach. Reason’s gone into the backrooms where it works to devise means by which people can be induced to emote in the desired direction.

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    • F Fabio Franco

      AspDotNetDev wrote:

      companies can send you emails and address you by your first name

      someString.Split(' ')[0];

      AspDotNetDev wrote:

      let the user know that all portions of the name must be entered

      lblName.Text = "Full Name:"

      I know that name splitting has it's usefulness, like displaying in formats like "Last, First Name" the way the user wants, but I believe single field names benefits outweighs by far the benefits of multiple field names. Not only on the functional perspective, but also on development. It's much simpler to have only one column on the database to hold a name. A better solution would indeed be a toggle, but then, that adds overhead to development.

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      AspDotNetDev
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      #28

      How would your code handle a user who enters: "Mr. Fabio Franco, Ph.D."? :) Or how about these:

      • "Mr Fabio Franco, Phd"
      • "Mr Fabio Franco the first, phd cna"
      • "Mrs. Fabio Franco"
      • "Fabio Franco, Mr"
      • "Fabio Franco III"
      • "Fabio"

      There is quite a bit of variation out there, and I'm sure more variation I don't know about in other cultures. Users do funny things when you let them (try to) think for themselves.

      Flummery:

      This is not the age of reason, this is the age of flummery, and the day of the devious approach. Reason’s gone into the backrooms where it works to devise means by which people can be induced to emote in the desired direction.

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      • A AspDotNetDev

        How would your code handle a user who enters: "Mr. Fabio Franco, Ph.D."? :) Or how about these:

        • "Mr Fabio Franco, Phd"
        • "Mr Fabio Franco the first, phd cna"
        • "Mrs. Fabio Franco"
        • "Fabio Franco, Mr"
        • "Fabio Franco III"
        • "Fabio"

        There is quite a bit of variation out there, and I'm sure more variation I don't know about in other cultures. Users do funny things when you let them (try to) think for themselves.

        Flummery:

        This is not the age of reason, this is the age of flummery, and the day of the devious approach. Reason’s gone into the backrooms where it works to devise means by which people can be induced to emote in the desired direction.

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        Fabio Franco
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        #29

        I get what you mean, users thinking by themselves are not good :~, but I think design can solve those issues :) : Title: Full Name: Again, it works so well here that I'm still to find a place in .com.br domain that asks for a multi field name. I don't there's magic bullet for anything, but I still believe that my argument stands, that single field names benefits outweighs multi-field names. I think in US is more of a culture of "most do this way, so we're not changing", although I've seen several single field name cases already.

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        • _ _Erik_

          AspDotNetDev wrote:

          I wasn't sure if I should put this in "Clever Code" or "Hall of Shame".

          Hall of shame, definitely, specially considering that this line would do the same job:

          Return String.Format("{0} {1} {2}", firstName, middleName, lastName).Replace(" ", " ").Trim()

          Yes, it works even if firstName, middleName and/or lastName are null. Edit: Forgot the Replace

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          TorstenFrings
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          #30

          You missed the condition, that the middle name should be omitted if first or last is missing... :cool:

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          • L Luc Pattyn

            There is a small change in the specs, we now have two more optional (middle?) initials. Please adapt your code... :)

            Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

            Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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            BobJanova
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            #31

            Yeah, while the forename-surname thing is kind of fair enough for many applications (most of us do work in English language countries), even in those, lots of people have more than one middle name.

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            • A AspDotNetDev

              Private Function GetFullName(firstName As String, middleName As String, lastName As String) As String

              ' Variables.
              Dim fullName As String
              Dim firstEmpty As String = String.IsNullOrEmpty(firstName)
              Dim middleEmpty As String = String.IsNullOrEmpty(middleName)
              Dim lastEmpty As String = String.IsNullOrEmpty(lastName)
              
              
              ' Combine name parts into full name.
              If firstEmpty Then
              	If middleEmpty Then
              		' Powers.
              		fullName = lastName
              	Else
              		If lastEmpty Then
              			' Danger.
              			fullName = middleName
              		Else
              			' Powers (ignore middle name).
              			fullName = lastName
              		End If
              	End If
              Else
              	If lastEmpty Then
              		' Austin (ignore middle name).
              		fullName = firstName
              	Else
              		If middleEmpty Then
              			' Austin Powers.
              			fullName = String.Format("{0} {1}", firstName, lastName)
              		Else
              			' Austin Danger Powers.
              			fullName = String.Format("{0} {1} {2}", firstName, middleName, lastName)
              		End If
              	End If
              End If
              
              
              ' Return full name.
              Return fullName
              

              End Function

              I wasn't sure if I should put this in "Clever Code" or "Hall of Shame". :)

              Flummery:

              This is not the age of reason, this is the age of flummery, and the day of the devious approach. Reason’s gone into the backrooms where it works to devise means by which people can be induced to emote in the desired direction.

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              Jassim Makki
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              #32

              wahaha this a "Hall of Shame" code indeed XD

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              • L Luc Pattyn

                There is a small change in the specs, we now have two more optional (middle?) initials. Please adapt your code... :)

                Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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                HaBiX
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                #33

                lol

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                • T TorstenFrings

                  You missed the condition, that the middle name should be omitted if first or last is missing... :cool:

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                  AspDotNetDev
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #34

                  Nope, if a middle name is all you have to call somebody, then you might as well call them that.

                  Chris Maunder wrote:

                  Fixign now.

                  But who's fixing the fixign?

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                  • A AspDotNetDev

                    Nope, if a middle name is all you have to call somebody, then you might as well call them that.

                    Chris Maunder wrote:

                    Fixign now.

                    But who's fixing the fixign?

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                    TorstenFrings
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #35

                    What I meant was: GetFullName(null, "middle", "last") => "last" GetFullName("first", "middle", null) => "first" isn't accomplished by your expression... but as well doesn't justify the code of horror in the OP

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                    • T TorstenFrings

                      What I meant was: GetFullName(null, "middle", "last") => "last" GetFullName("first", "middle", null) => "first" isn't accomplished by your expression... but as well doesn't justify the code of horror in the OP

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                      AspDotNetDev
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #36

                      Actually, I am the OP and I didn't catch that. Take some 5's. :thumbsup:

                      Chris Maunder wrote:

                      Fixign now.

                      But who's fixing the fixign?

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                      • P Paladin2000

                        AspDotNetDev wrote:

                        Dim firstEmpty As String = String.IsNullOrEmpty(firstName)

                        String.IsNullOrEmpty returns "bool"... How are you assigning it to a string variable..? :confused:

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                        DragonsRightWing
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                        #37

                        Timothy CIAN wrote:

                        String.IsNullOrEmpty returns "bool"... How are you assigning it to a string variable..? :confused:

                        I was wondering the same thing - the line shouldn't compile (and doesn't, when I test it)!

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                        • L Luc Pattyn

                          Here it is pretty normal to have several "first names", in Dutch we actually call them firstnames (plural), although first, second, third, etc. would be more logical. I have four. So we don't really have a middle name or middle initial, when you ask me for a middle initial you'd get three of them. And all that is without double or composite names. How about the code? :)

                          Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

                          Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.

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                          Blake Miller
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                          The multiple names is not SOOO uncommon here in the U.S.A. anymore either. The nanas were arguing about the middle name for our second daugher, so we just gave her "Amber Ann" as the middle name!

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