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  • J J4amieC

    ahhh, no no no. If your UI code is mixed with your database access code; you're doing it wrong If you show Exception messages unsanitized to your users; you're doing it wrong

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    Rick van Woudenberg
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    I totally agree with you, and I would never show an exception to a user. Hence the

    // or show something else..

    , but I still think that you should at least say something when anything important messes up, like .. euhh .. a database connection that fails ? I don't think it's wise to redirect general user messages that could be caused by an exception to the windows logs. Not very user friendly.

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    • J J4amieC

      ahhh, no no no. If your UI code is mixed with your database access code; you're doing it wrong If you show Exception messages unsanitized to your users; you're doing it wrong

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      Gary Wheeler
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      #27

      J4amieC wrote:

      If your UI code is mixed with your database access code; you're doing it wrong
       
      If you show Exception messages unsanitized to your users; you're doing it wrong

      Ahhh, no. It depends upon the scope of the problem you're trying to solve. If this is a 1,000 line utility app that you're the only user for, this might be perfectly appropriate. If it's a 200,000 line client for a LOB app, then you might have issues.

      Software Zen: delete this;

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      • J Jan Holst Jensen2

        Pointless with regards to how the code executes, but not pointless if you are debugging. The outer catch block gives you a place to put a breakpoint so you can see when exceptions occur. I expect that is the reason for it. But the outer try-catch block can be safely removed for production code.

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        PIEBALDconsult
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        #28

        Then put a catch on the try/finally.

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          Then put a catch on the try/finally.

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          Jan Holst Jensen2
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          #29

          Except if the exception occurs during execution of the finally-block...

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          • R Rick van Woudenberg

            Well, as far as I'm concerned both would be nice. Sure, the connection to the database has priority over user notification, however when something stuffs up, I generally let the user know. In that particular case I would do something like :

            private void DoSomething()
            {
            SqlConnection connection = null;
            try
            {
            connection = new SqlConnection();
            // Do something that might cause an exception...
            connection.Open();
            }
            catch(SqlException ex)
            {
            MessageBox.Show(ex.ToString(); // or something else to notify the customer
            }
            finally
            {
            if (connection.ConnectionState == ConnectionState.Open)
            connection.Close();
            }
            }

            Then you actually have both of two worlds. However, that puts us right back to the essence of this discussion. Having a catch clause in a method is not something to be ashamed of, though I get the feeling that many developers think that way.

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            DragonLord66
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            #30

            If you're in a helper layer such as a DAL then you don't want to add any code that will interact with the user, however you may want to do clean up before the exception is thrown up the chain to a level where the exception can be dealt with by the user. Equally what's the difference between the original example and the following?

            Private Sub ExceptionMethod()
                Try
                    DoExceptionCode()
                Finally
                    DoCleanup()
                End Try
            End Sub
            
            Private Sub ExceptionHandlerCode()
                Try
                    ExceptionMethod()
                Catch ex As Exception
                    ExceptionHandlerHere()
                End Try
            End Sub
            
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            • D DragonLord66

              If you're in a helper layer such as a DAL then you don't want to add any code that will interact with the user, however you may want to do clean up before the exception is thrown up the chain to a level where the exception can be dealt with by the user. Equally what's the difference between the original example and the following?

              Private Sub ExceptionMethod()
                  Try
                      DoExceptionCode()
                  Finally
                      DoCleanup()
                  End Try
              End Sub
              
              Private Sub ExceptionHandlerCode()
                  Try
                      ExceptionMethod()
                  Catch ex As Exception
                      ExceptionHandlerHere()
                  End Try
              End Sub
              
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              Pete OHanlon
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              #31

              Arrgggh - my eyes. The horror. Case insensitive code in our lovely curly bracketed case sensitive world.

              Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

              My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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              • P Pete OHanlon

                Arrgggh - my eyes. The horror. Case insensitive code in our lovely curly bracketed case sensitive world.

                Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                DragonLord66
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                #32

                Sorry, I'll use Smalltalk next time. More seriously I had a vb editor open so it was just quicker to type it in there with the auto complete than to start up a new c# editor for the example (formatting purposes)

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                • D DragonLord66

                  Sorry, I'll use Smalltalk next time. More seriously I had a vb editor open so it was just quicker to type it in there with the auto complete than to start up a new c# editor for the example (formatting purposes)

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  #33

                  DragonLord66 wrote:

                  I had a vb editor open

                  In the name of all that's holy man, why?

                  Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                  My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    DragonLord66 wrote:

                    I had a vb editor open

                    In the name of all that's holy man, why?

                    Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                    My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                    DragonLord66
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                    We have a very large code base of VB code that was written simply because it's easier to get a working prototype in vb (pre 2010 and c# runtime code editing), and the prototypes turned into production code...

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                    • A Ali Al Omairi Abu AlHassan

                      guys; I was exminning some code and i found this:

                      try
                      {
                          try
                          {
                              ...
                          }
                          finally
                          {
                              ...
                          }
                      }
                      catch
                      {
                          throw;
                      }
                      

                      I am wondering if this is legal. I mean catch anything and trow anything; or maybe it's usefull for something. because the developer who write this code is someone i believe he is an expert. Thank you;

                      Help people,so poeple can help you.

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                      patbob
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                      My memory may not be correct, but I seem to recall a time in C++ when try-finally was a macro and try-catch a language intrinsic, so you couldn't mix them together. If you wanted to do both, you pretty much had to code it up that way. Maybe I recall wrong though? Unless there's more code inside the try-catch that isn't inside the try-finally, it doesn't make much sense to code it that way.

                      patbob

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                      • P Pete OHanlon

                        Arrgggh - my eyes. The horror. Case insensitive code in our lovely curly bracketed case sensitive world.

                        Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads

                        My blog | My articles | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier - my favourite utility

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                        James Lonero
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                        #36

                        Oh come on, its just another way of saying (explaining) the same thing.

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                        • A Ali Al Omairi Abu AlHassan

                          guys; I was exminning some code and i found this:

                          try
                          {
                              try
                              {
                                  ...
                              }
                              finally
                              {
                                  ...
                              }
                          }
                          catch
                          {
                              throw;
                          }
                          

                          I am wondering if this is legal. I mean catch anything and trow anything; or maybe it's usefull for something. because the developer who write this code is someone i believe he is an expert. Thank you;

                          Help people,so poeple can help you.

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                          SilimSayo
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #37

                          It is legal but personally, I prefer

                          try
                          {

                          ////whole batch of statements that could give raise to an exception

                          }
                          //Several catch blocks
                          catch (IOException e)
                          {

                          }
                          catch(MyException e)
                          {

                          }
                          .
                          .
                          .
                          .
                          .
                          .
                          catch (Exception e)///Generic catch block
                          {

                          }

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                          • A Ali Al Omairi Abu AlHassan

                            guys; I was exminning some code and i found this:

                            try
                            {
                                try
                                {
                                    ...
                                }
                                finally
                                {
                                    ...
                                }
                            }
                            catch
                            {
                                throw;
                            }
                            

                            I am wondering if this is legal. I mean catch anything and trow anything; or maybe it's usefull for something. because the developer who write this code is someone i believe he is an expert. Thank you;

                            Help people,so poeple can help you.

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                            Sandy_L_Schultz
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #38

                            That's a do-while. :laugh:

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