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VS2010 Express, no MSSQL?

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    Helfdane
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    Hi, While getting the good stuff at work, my own weekend-company uses the Visual Express editions to get things working. Lately my devmachine crashed and I thought I wanted to use the occasion to "fix" some of the network items on the list. So now I have a database box, a testmachine and a devmachine. But here it comes. When I want to install VS2010 express on my devbox, it seems that MSSQL Express is mandatory. How do I install VS2010 Web without the SQL server? Any ideas? Thanx in advance!

    A good programmer is someone who always looks both ways before crossing a one-way street. (Doug Linder)

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      Hi, While getting the good stuff at work, my own weekend-company uses the Visual Express editions to get things working. Lately my devmachine crashed and I thought I wanted to use the occasion to "fix" some of the network items on the list. So now I have a database box, a testmachine and a devmachine. But here it comes. When I want to install VS2010 express on my devbox, it seems that MSSQL Express is mandatory. How do I install VS2010 Web without the SQL server? Any ideas? Thanx in advance!

      A good programmer is someone who always looks both ways before crossing a one-way street. (Doug Linder)

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      Helfdane wrote:

      it seems that MSSQL Express is mandatory

      Then I'd say there is no way around it. But you can try. At what point did it seem mandatory... what UI did you see and what message did it say? First, I'd say download the ISO that contains everything except for SQL Server. Maybe that will give you an option to install without SQL Server (though you may be required to install SQL before you can run VWD Express... not sure). You might also see what they have to say here, though I'm not too clear exactly what they mean. You could give it a try if the ISO approach doesn't work.

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        Helfdane wrote:

        it seems that MSSQL Express is mandatory

        Then I'd say there is no way around it. But you can try. At what point did it seem mandatory... what UI did you see and what message did it say? First, I'd say download the ISO that contains everything except for SQL Server. Maybe that will give you an option to install without SQL Server (though you may be required to install SQL before you can run VWD Express... not sure). You might also see what they have to say here, though I'm not too clear exactly what they mean. You could give it a try if the ISO approach doesn't work.

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        I downloaded the MS Web Platform Installer. When I select Visual Web Developer Express, it say's "okay, fine, but you also need SQL 2008R2 Express, Sql2008 R2 Management Tools, SQL Server Native Client, SQL2008 Server System CLR Types, SQL 2008 Server Compact 4.0, Tools for SQL 2008 Server Compact 4.0, Tools for SQL 2008 Server Compact Installer 4.0 and Tools for SQL 2008 Server Compact Installer New Installations 4.0." And there is no way to unselect them. This would only bog down my dev machine by installing/running this all... [edit]The link you provided has given me Visual Studio 2010 alright, but not the version which can create web applications, only windows forms allowed :( I appreciate the help though.

        A good programmer is someone who always looks both ways before crossing a one-way street. (Doug Linder)

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          I downloaded the MS Web Platform Installer. When I select Visual Web Developer Express, it say's "okay, fine, but you also need SQL 2008R2 Express, Sql2008 R2 Management Tools, SQL Server Native Client, SQL2008 Server System CLR Types, SQL 2008 Server Compact 4.0, Tools for SQL 2008 Server Compact 4.0, Tools for SQL 2008 Server Compact Installer 4.0 and Tools for SQL 2008 Server Compact Installer New Installations 4.0." And there is no way to unselect them. This would only bog down my dev machine by installing/running this all... [edit]The link you provided has given me Visual Studio 2010 alright, but not the version which can create web applications, only windows forms allowed :( I appreciate the help though.

          A good programmer is someone who always looks both ways before crossing a one-way street. (Doug Linder)

          modified on Friday, May 20, 2011 4:08 PM

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          Helfdane wrote:

          The link you provided has given me Visual Studio 2010 alright, but not the version which can create web applications, only windows forms allowed

          The first link I gave you has many things listed for download, including: "This ISO image file includes: Visual Basic 2010 Express, Visual C++ 2010 Express, Visual C# 2010 Express, and Visual Web Developer 2010 Express."

          Helfdane wrote:

          When I select Visual Web Developer Express, it say's [...]

          Yeah, I saw that in the WPI download portion. I wonder if an installer will launch and give you the option to avoid installing SQL Server. I am not sure. That is why I recommend you download the ISO... so you don't have to worry about the WPI. I wouldn't get your hopes up though... SQL Server may just be a required dependency. You could perhaps hack the registry to make the installer think SQL Server is already installed, but there's not telling what kind of havoc that would cause.

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            I downloaded the MS Web Platform Installer. When I select Visual Web Developer Express, it say's "okay, fine, but you also need SQL 2008R2 Express, Sql2008 R2 Management Tools, SQL Server Native Client, SQL2008 Server System CLR Types, SQL 2008 Server Compact 4.0, Tools for SQL 2008 Server Compact 4.0, Tools for SQL 2008 Server Compact Installer 4.0 and Tools for SQL 2008 Server Compact Installer New Installations 4.0." And there is no way to unselect them. This would only bog down my dev machine by installing/running this all... [edit]The link you provided has given me Visual Studio 2010 alright, but not the version which can create web applications, only windows forms allowed :( I appreciate the help though.

            A good programmer is someone who always looks both ways before crossing a one-way street. (Doug Linder)

            modified on Friday, May 20, 2011 4:08 PM

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            unless you are running a pretty low machine, installing the SQL stuff just to get VS to work should not really bog down anything. Not actually using it and letting it just ride there to make VS happy and getting bogged down by it would suggest you just need a better machine as its not very resource intensive in that state. I have run the full version on some pretty low end Dell towers in the past with no trouble at all. Just my opinion.

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              I downloaded the MS Web Platform Installer. When I select Visual Web Developer Express, it say's "okay, fine, but you also need SQL 2008R2 Express, Sql2008 R2 Management Tools, SQL Server Native Client, SQL2008 Server System CLR Types, SQL 2008 Server Compact 4.0, Tools for SQL 2008 Server Compact 4.0, Tools for SQL 2008 Server Compact Installer 4.0 and Tools for SQL 2008 Server Compact Installer New Installations 4.0." And there is no way to unselect them. This would only bog down my dev machine by installing/running this all... [edit]The link you provided has given me Visual Studio 2010 alright, but not the version which can create web applications, only windows forms allowed :( I appreciate the help though.

              A good programmer is someone who always looks both ways before crossing a one-way street. (Doug Linder)

              modified on Friday, May 20, 2011 4:08 PM

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              I do recall, when I downloaded and installed VS2008C# Express, I was asked whether I also wanted (1) SQL Server Express and (2) SilverLight. I don't recall the details for VS2008 WebDev Express. :)

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