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  • G Graham Wilson

    [At the risk of opening a big can 'o worms...] Might I suggest a per-article limit to the number of downloads for which reputation points are awarded? I've only submitted two articles (so far), and have already made it to "Legend" level for Author, the majority of reputation points coming from downloads (3800+) for my 2nd article. As much as I am gratified by the positive attention, it doesn't seem right having achieved the maximum Author level after only two articles. Either that, or add more levels (Legend-2 at 50,000 points, Legend-3 at 100,000 points, etc). Comments?

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    Dan Neely
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    This has been beaten to death repeatedly over several threads over the last few weeks. Maunder's said there will be a change to the download points prior to parsing the logs and giving a decade of retroactive points. (Apparently he didn't like the idea of his getting 1M additional points and moving into first.) He's refused to say in advance what the change he's going to make will be though. :sigh:

    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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    • G Graham Wilson

      [At the risk of opening a big can 'o worms...] Might I suggest a per-article limit to the number of downloads for which reputation points are awarded? I've only submitted two articles (so far), and have already made it to "Legend" level for Author, the majority of reputation points coming from downloads (3800+) for my 2nd article. As much as I am gratified by the positive attention, it doesn't seem right having achieved the maximum Author level after only two articles. Either that, or add more levels (Legend-2 at 50,000 points, Legend-3 at 100,000 points, etc). Comments?

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      AspDotNetDev
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      Shhhh... you're going to ruin it for the rest of us. I've been relying on one article to get me to gold. :rolleyes:

      [Managing Your JavaScript Library in ASP.NET]

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      • G Graham Wilson

        [At the risk of opening a big can 'o worms...] Might I suggest a per-article limit to the number of downloads for which reputation points are awarded? I've only submitted two articles (so far), and have already made it to "Legend" level for Author, the majority of reputation points coming from downloads (3800+) for my 2nd article. As much as I am gratified by the positive attention, it doesn't seem right having achieved the maximum Author level after only two articles. Either that, or add more levels (Legend-2 at 50,000 points, Legend-3 at 100,000 points, etc). Comments?

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        Albert Holguin
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        wow! ...very honorable of you to suggest this... :thumbsup:

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        • G Graham Wilson

          [At the risk of opening a big can 'o worms...] Might I suggest a per-article limit to the number of downloads for which reputation points are awarded? I've only submitted two articles (so far), and have already made it to "Legend" level for Author, the majority of reputation points coming from downloads (3800+) for my 2nd article. As much as I am gratified by the positive attention, it doesn't seem right having achieved the maximum Author level after only two articles. Either that, or add more levels (Legend-2 at 50,000 points, Legend-3 at 100,000 points, etc). Comments?

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          Chris Maunder
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          I'm going to lower the points from 5 to 1.

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          • C Chris Maunder

            I'm going to lower the points from 5 to 1.

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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            Dan Neely
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            I still think it seems a bit high, but I guess stopping there let you keep all your math in integer form which has some benefit.

            3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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            • C Chris Maunder

              I'm going to lower the points from 5 to 1.

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              realJSOP
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              I think it should be 1 for every N downloads...

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              • C Chris Maunder

                I'm going to lower the points from 5 to 1.

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                AspDotNetDev
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                :(( I'll try to enjoy my gold status while it lasts.

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                • A AspDotNetDev

                  :(( I'll try to enjoy my gold status while it lasts.

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                  thatraja
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                  Not only you dude, Luc, Sandeep, etc., are worrying about the Platinum status.

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                  • T thatraja

                    Not only you dude, Luc, Sandeep, etc., are worrying about the Platinum status.

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                    Dan Neely
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                    I think anyone who's a long term author will probably end up with more points after the recalc, since the +5 has only been applied to new downloads (proof: Maunder has ~200k downloads, but nowhere near 1M author points).

                    3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                    • D Dan Neely

                      I think anyone who's a long term author will probably end up with more points after the recalc, since the +5 has only been applied to new downloads (proof: Maunder has ~200k downloads, but nowhere near 1M author points).

                      3x12=36 2x12=24 1x12=12 0x12=18

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                      thatraja
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                      Agree. Yes, Chris said the rep.recalculation will be on this week end or next.

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I'm going to lower the points from 5 to 1.

                        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                        Luc Pattyn
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                        If you maintain the act of downloading is worth 2 points, you are basically saying that to CP readers are more important than writers. Giving points for being downloaded is OK, having a way to limit the number is fine too (a linear function does not achieve that, you will change your mind again later on), however I must suggest, once more, you don't give any points for actively downloading, it does not organize anything, therefore not 2 Org points, not 1 Org points, just nada. :doh:

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                        • A AspDotNetDev

                          :(( I'll try to enjoy my gold status while it lasts.

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                          thatraja
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                          AspDotNetDev wrote:

                          :(( I'll try to enjoy my gold status while it lasts.

                          Please vote my articles quickly before the rep.recalculation.

                          thatraja


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                          • C Chris Maunder

                            I'm going to lower the points from 5 to 1.

                            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                            Graham Wilson
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                            Chris, Good idea - but maybe go with diminishing returns. A log scale: 1 point per download for the first 1000, 1 per 10 for the next 10K, 1 per 100 for the next 100K etc. Either way - when do you plan to implement this change? Gotta know how long I have my platinum rating :-) Graham

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                              Chris, Good idea - but maybe go with diminishing returns. A log scale: 1 point per download for the first 1000, 1 per 10 for the next 10K, 1 per 100 for the next 100K etc. Either way - when do you plan to implement this change? Gotta know how long I have my platinum rating :-) Graham

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                              Chris Maunder
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                              Not a bad idea - but what if someone makes a significant update to an article? The decay factor will need resetting. If we do this, then there is nothing to stop someone simply renaming their download regularly to reset whatever we put in place. As to timing, we have to work through a perf issue that has seen the recalc blow out to 4 days instead of half a day. Just trying to work out which SLEEP(1000) call needs to be removed.

                              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                Not a bad idea - but what if someone makes a significant update to an article? The decay factor will need resetting. If we do this, then there is nothing to stop someone simply renaming their download regularly to reset whatever we put in place. As to timing, we have to work through a perf issue that has seen the recalc blow out to 4 days instead of half a day. Just trying to work out which SLEEP(1000) call needs to be removed.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                                Graham Wilson
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                                As there is no real way to automagically measure the significance of an update, I would vote against resetting the decay factor. Updates still get rewarded indirectly - an update tends to result in renewed exposure which (assuming the article is worthy), leads to more upvotes. As a side note, I would also say that the act of downloading should result in any rep points. Graham

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