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  • M Michael A Barnhart

    Hopefully this will not get bogged down in side discussions that have already been well covered. In today’s paper (front page) was a column on the Iraq Arms report. Not to much surprising other than statements of Frances reaction "criticizing the declaration as incomplete and full of inconsistencies." Are word this strong attributed to France being reported on continental Europe? Or others than the US and UK? "I will find a new sig someday."

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    peterchen
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    Our news tell us that Bush is dancing in joy since it's such a "blatant offence against the wadda wadda resolutions" they can go to war right now.


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    • M Michael A Barnhart

      Hopefully this will not get bogged down in side discussions that have already been well covered. In today’s paper (front page) was a column on the Iraq Arms report. Not to much surprising other than statements of Frances reaction "criticizing the declaration as incomplete and full of inconsistencies." Are word this strong attributed to France being reported on continental Europe? Or others than the US and UK? "I will find a new sig someday."

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      KaRl
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      I've read an article[^] in the newspaper "Le Monde" about this. The article is moderate: it says an "authorized source" declared the Iraq report was incomplete, lacking info about what happened after 1998 (last stop of the inspections). However, the Foreign Affairs Minister (equivalent of the Secretary of State) added yesterday he hoped the shadowed areas could be explained by the UN inspectors, and as long as Iraq is fully cooperative, there is no violation of resolution 1441. Michael A. Barnhart wrote: Or others than the US and UK You mean USK ? ;)


      One small village of indomitable geeks still holds out against the invaders. And life is not easy for the managers legionaries who garrison the fortified camps of Microsoftum, Javum, Ceplumplum and Vebasum

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      • M Michael A Barnhart

        Hopefully this will not get bogged down in side discussions that have already been well covered. In today’s paper (front page) was a column on the Iraq Arms report. Not to much surprising other than statements of Frances reaction "criticizing the declaration as incomplete and full of inconsistencies." Are word this strong attributed to France being reported on continental Europe? Or others than the US and UK? "I will find a new sig someday."

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        Our media no longer reports on Iraqi issues - they want to sell papers not put their readership into a coma. If we want current affairs news about Iraq we can read the same papers printed six months ago, after all all they've done is change the date and reprint them as "breaking news" anyway... There are three things that make for bad media: a) "President Bush says..." b) "Vice President Priminister blair says..." (see a) c) "Iraq [or Saddam] is bad" (see a) :|


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        • D David Wulff

          Our media no longer reports on Iraqi issues - they want to sell papers not put their readership into a coma. If we want current affairs news about Iraq we can read the same papers printed six months ago, after all all they've done is change the date and reprint them as "breaking news" anyway... There are three things that make for bad media: a) "President Bush says..." b) "Vice President Priminister blair says..." (see a) c) "Iraq [or Saddam] is bad" (see a) :|


          David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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          KaRl
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          David Wulff wrote: "Vice President Priminister blair says..." => "US governor Priminister blair says... I don't believe that Tony-boy has the same power as a vice-president on the US !


          One small village of indomitable geeks still holds out against the invaders. And life is not easy for the managers legionaries who garrison the fortified camps of Microsoftum, Javum, Ceplumplum and Vebasum

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          • K KaRl

            David Wulff wrote: "Vice President Priminister blair says..." => "US governor Priminister blair says... I don't believe that Tony-boy has the same power as a vice-president on the US !


            One small village of indomitable geeks still holds out against the invaders. And life is not easy for the managers legionaries who garrison the fortified camps of Microsoftum, Javum, Ceplumplum and Vebasum

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            David Wulff
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            I think you missed something important there... :suss:


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              I think you missed something important there... :suss:


              David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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              I understood you assimilate your PM to a US VP. Did you mean by VP something similar as what Mountbatten was in India at the end of the 40's (a "vice-king" :~) :confused:


              One small village of indomitable geeks still holds out against the invaders. And life is not easy for the managers legionaries who garrison the fortified camps of Microsoftum, Javum, Ceplumplum and Vebasum

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                I understood you assimilate your PM to a US VP. Did you mean by VP something similar as what Mountbatten was in India at the end of the 40's (a "vice-king" :~) :confused:


                One small village of indomitable geeks still holds out against the invaders. And life is not easy for the managers legionaries who garrison the fortified camps of Microsoftum, Javum, Ceplumplum and Vebasum

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                David Wulff
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                KaЯl wrote: I understood you assimilate your PM to a US VP Not at all. You are looking at this from the wrong side: Blair isn't Vice President of the USA, Bush is president of the United Kingdom.


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                  KaЯl wrote: I understood you assimilate your PM to a US VP Not at all. You are looking at this from the wrong side: Blair isn't Vice President of the USA, Bush is president of the United Kingdom.


                  David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk

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                  David Wulff wrote: Bush is president of the United Kingdom I never had a doubt about this :-D


                  One small village of indomitable geeks still holds out against the invaders. And life is not easy for the managers legionaries who garrison the fortified camps of Microsoftum, Javum, Ceplumplum and Vebasum

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                  • K KaRl

                    David Wulff wrote: "Vice President Priminister blair says..." => "US governor Priminister blair says... I don't believe that Tony-boy has the same power as a vice-president on the US !


                    One small village of indomitable geeks still holds out against the invaders. And life is not easy for the managers legionaries who garrison the fortified camps of Microsoftum, Javum, Ceplumplum and Vebasum

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                    Now that I think about it, it seems I'm seeing Tony Blair with about the same frequency as VP Dick Cheney. It's almost as if Tony Blair has become the 2nd VP. Ever since Tony Blair hitched his wagons to those of the US, his political clout has grown tremendously. Anytime, I hear about US operations in global counter terrorism, Tony Blair keeps popping up. He's turning the UK into a major player on the world stage. Where once there was a diminished empire, there is now a UK of resurging influence.

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                      Now that I think about it, it seems I'm seeing Tony Blair with about the same frequency as VP Dick Cheney. It's almost as if Tony Blair has become the 2nd VP. Ever since Tony Blair hitched his wagons to those of the US, his political clout has grown tremendously. Anytime, I hear about US operations in global counter terrorism, Tony Blair keeps popping up. He's turning the UK into a major player on the world stage. Where once there was a diminished empire, there is now a UK of resurging influence.

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                      KaRl
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                      Emcee Lam wrote: there is now a UK of resurging influence. Where is the influence when UK only repeats what the White House says? UK is more aligned on US than Bulgaria on USSR during the cold war!


                      One small village of indomitable geeks still holds out against the invaders. And life is not easy for the managers legionaries who garrison the fortified camps of Microsoftum, Javum, Ceplumplum and Vebasum

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                      • K KaRl

                        Emcee Lam wrote: there is now a UK of resurging influence. Where is the influence when UK only repeats what the White House says? UK is more aligned on US than Bulgaria on USSR during the cold war!


                        One small village of indomitable geeks still holds out against the invaders. And life is not easy for the managers legionaries who garrison the fortified camps of Microsoftum, Javum, Ceplumplum and Vebasum

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                        Emcee Lam
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                        You can see UK's resurging influence by UK's recent activities. The UK served as the only full partner to the US during the overthrow of the Taliban. After the overthrow of the Taliban, UK initially commanded the ISAF mission in securing Kabul. Then on the Iraq question, UK mediated between the US and other members of the UN security council. By contributing more, UK gets better leadership opportunities on the world stage. By acting out portions of US foreign policy, the UK shares in the American global influence.

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