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How do I generate a number divisable by 5, and check it?

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  • D David1987

    Numbers that end in 0 are also divisible by 5 (except zero) So you're right.

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    Luc Pattyn
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    David1987 wrote:

    except zero

    :confused::confused::confused:

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      Luc Pattyn wrote:

      a random multiple of five is bound to be five times some other random number. :OMG:

      ? What do you mean? Regards, Stephen

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      Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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      What Luc meant was that you should just create a random integer number and the go and multiply it by five. This will always give you a number which is divisible by 5, to state the obvious. The only thing I would add is if you are given a range in which the numbers should lie you'd need some adjustment.

      Random rnd = new Random();

      int lowerBound = 2001; // not divisable 5 five
      lowerBound = lowerBound + ( 5 - lowerBound % 5 ); // make lowerBound divisable by five

      int upperBound = 10023; // not divisable by five
      upperBound = upperBound - ( upperBound % 5 ); // make upperBound divisable by five

      int range = (upperBound - lowerBound) / 5; // calculate the range of numbers

      int number = lowerBound + rnd.Next( range ) * 5; // presto

      Cheers!

      —MRB

      "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."

      Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925

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      • L Luc Pattyn

        a random multiple of five is bound to be five times some other random number. :omg:

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        Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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        Stating the obvious! 5+ :-D :thumbsup:

        "With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."

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        • R riced

          Look at what I said - add 5 or 10. If a number is divisible by 5 it must end in 5 or 0 - that's primary school arithmetic. If you don't believe me write out the 5 times table for the numbers 1 to 20.

          Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.

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          stephen darling
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          riced wrote:

          If a number is divisible by 5 it must end in 5 or 0

          Yes; I was getting confused with the coding issue not the actual math.

          riced wrote:

          that's primary school arithmetic.

          I know, I am a Biomedical Scientist.

          riced wrote:

          If you don't believe me write out the 5 times table for the numbers 1 to 20.

          I do believe you. Like I said, it was the coding side of things. However, it is my fault the way I explained myself, it did indeed look as though I didn’t understand the math itself, and I certainly was not questioning you answer. Sorry if it came across that way, and thank you. Kind Regards, Stephen

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          • L Luc Pattyn

            David1987 wrote:

            except zero

            :confused::confused::confused:

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            David1987
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            It depends on the definition of divisibility that you use. Zero can also be divisible by anything, if you use an other definition.

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            • R riced

              Generate a four digit random number, multiply it by 10, add 5 (or 10). The result will be divisible by 5.

              Regards David R --------------------------------------------------------------- "Every program eventually becomes rococo, and then rubble." - Alan Perlis The only valid measurement of code quality: WTFs/minute.

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              Simon Bang Terkildsen
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              you shouldn't add 5 or 10 but 5 or 0. In the case the random generator provides 9999 then you would get 9999 * 10 + 10 = 99990 + 10 = 100000 six digits

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              • D David1987

                It depends on the definition of divisibility that you use. Zero can also be divisible by anything, if you use an other definition.

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                Luc Pattyn
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                BS.

                zero times x equals zero, no matter what (finite) value x has.

                so (the right side's) zero is divisible by x, and the result is (the left side's) zero. If I hold 10 pies, 5 bacon sandwiches, and zero glasses of milk, I have no problem distributing them evenly to 5 people. Next you'll state you could also redefine 5, so it no longer divides itself. :)

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                • L Luc Pattyn

                  BS.

                  zero times x equals zero, no matter what (finite) value x has.

                  so (the right side's) zero is divisible by x, and the result is (the left side's) zero. If I hold 10 pies, 5 bacon sandwiches, and zero glasses of milk, I have no problem distributing them evenly to 5 people. Next you'll state you could also redefine 5, so it no longer divides itself. :)

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                  Luc Pattyn wrote:

                  Next you'll state you could also redefine 5, so it no longer divides itself.

                  It doesn't. There are only four bacon sandwiches left... :laugh:

                  Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                  • L Luc Pattyn

                    BS.

                    zero times x equals zero, no matter what (finite) value x has.

                    so (the right side's) zero is divisible by x, and the result is (the left side's) zero. If I hold 10 pies, 5 bacon sandwiches, and zero glasses of milk, I have no problem distributing them evenly to 5 people. Next you'll state you could also redefine 5, so it no longer divides itself. :)

                    Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

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                    David1987
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                    Nope. You seem to think that that is the only definition of divisibility. I did not personally redefine anything. There is no natural number n such that 0/x=n so no x evenly divides 0. If you use the definition with integers instead of natural numbers, everything divides zero. Also, the prime factorization of zero is empty.

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                    • S stephen darling

                      Hi. First, how would I create a random number, and then add the last digit, so that it is divisable by 5? the number should always be 5 digits long. Second, how do I check it, I think I need to do something like...

                      if (int x MOD 5 ==0)

                      Or something like that. The first step is the most important though. Thank you, Steve

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                      Lost User
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                      Didn't you already post this in the Q&A and get an answer to it?? Generating numbers to the multiple of 5?[^]

                      Computers have been intelligent for a long time now. It just so happens that the program writers are about as effective as a room full of monkeys trying to crank out a copy of Hamlet.

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                      • D David1987

                        Nope. You seem to think that that is the only definition of divisibility. I did not personally redefine anything. There is no natural number n such that 0/x=n so no x evenly divides 0. If you use the definition with integers instead of natural numbers, everything divides zero. Also, the prime factorization of zero is empty.

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                        Luc Pattyn
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                        natural numbers are the ordinary counting numbers 1, 2, 3, ... (sometimes zero is also included) is what Wikipedia[^] offers as a definition. Now you can choose: either you include zero and you are allowed to use it at both sides of your 0/x=n, or you exclude it (and then your "except zero" remark that started all this is completely irrelevant). :doh:

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                          Luc Pattyn wrote:

                          Next you'll state you could also redefine 5, so it no longer divides itself.

                          It doesn't. There are only four bacon sandwiches left... :laugh:

                          Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together. Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."

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                          Luc Pattyn
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                          Sorry for the late reply, I have been off-line this evening, I have another tournament going on this week. I trust all bacon sandwiches have magically disappeared by now, and so the problem got solved? :)

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                          • S stephen darling

                            riced wrote:

                            If a number is divisible by 5 it must end in 5 or 0

                            Yes; I was getting confused with the coding issue not the actual math.

                            riced wrote:

                            that's primary school arithmetic.

                            I know, I am a Biomedical Scientist.

                            riced wrote:

                            If you don't believe me write out the 5 times table for the numbers 1 to 20.

                            I do believe you. Like I said, it was the coding side of things. However, it is my fault the way I explained myself, it did indeed look as though I didn’t understand the math itself, and I certainly was not questioning you answer. Sorry if it came across that way, and thank you. Kind Regards, Stephen

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                            Mycroft Holmes
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                            Your confusion did lead me to think - how old is this guy, doesn't understand primary grade maths :-D

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              natural numbers are the ordinary counting numbers 1, 2, 3, ... (sometimes zero is also included) is what Wikipedia[^] offers as a definition. Now you can choose: either you include zero and you are allowed to use it at both sides of your 0/x=n, or you exclude it (and then your "except zero" remark that started all this is completely irrelevant). :doh:

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                              David1987
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                              Yes but that's precisely the point, you can choose.

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                              • D David1987

                                Generate a random integer in [2000, 19999] and multiply it by 5. The result will always be in [10000, 99999] (ie 5 decimal digits) and be divisible by 5 (by construction)

                                int yourNumber = 5 * rand.Next(2000, 20000); // remember the max-bound is exclusive
                                if (yourNumber % 5 != 0)
                                Console.WriteLine("the universe is wrong");

                                And make sure you reuse a single instance of Random, if you create new ones the result won't be random. [/spoon feeding]

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                                stephen darling
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                                David1987 wrote:

                                And make sure you reuse a single instance of Random,

                                How exactly do I ensure that I am doing this? I am using rand a number of times, and although I get different values, it does appear that they are very simular. Regards, Stephen

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                                • D David1987

                                  Nope. You seem to think that that is the only definition of divisibility. I did not personally redefine anything. There is no natural number n such that 0/x=n so no x evenly divides 0. If you use the definition with integers instead of natural numbers, everything divides zero. Also, the prime factorization of zero is empty.

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                                  BobJanova
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                                  That is a stupid definition. It would also indicate that -10 is not divisible by 5. There may be abstruse mathematical concepts for which it's useful, I suppose, but for normal maths it is nonsense.

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                                  • S stephen darling

                                    Does this mean that no matter what number I generate, it will always have to end in 5? e.g. All these numbers are divisable by 5

                                    39485
                                    99045
                                    12095
                                    49385
                                    99335

                                    However, I was under the impression I could generate numbers that would be divisable by 5, but not end in 5? Is this wrong? Regards, Stephen

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                                    Gary Wheeler
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                                    All integers evenly divisible by 5 must end in either 5 or 0 when expressed in base 10. This is basic math.

                                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                                    • S stephen darling

                                      Hi. First, how would I create a random number, and then add the last digit, so that it is divisable by 5? the number should always be 5 digits long. Second, how do I check it, I think I need to do something like...

                                      if (int x MOD 5 ==0)

                                      Or something like that. The first step is the most important though. Thank you, Steve

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                                      Tom Chantler
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                                      Is this a joke question? Generate a four digit number and add an extra number to the end, being either 5 or 0. Then don't check it because it will be correct!!! e.g. 4678; add 5 on the end to give 46785.

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                                        Hi. First, how would I create a random number, and then add the last digit, so that it is divisable by 5? the number should always be 5 digits long. Second, how do I check it, I think I need to do something like...

                                        if (int x MOD 5 ==0)

                                        Or something like that. The first step is the most important though. Thank you, Steve

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                                        Paulo_JCG
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                                        Random random = new Random(); return (random.Next(17999) + 2000) * 5; this gives a number divisable by 5 between 10000 and 99995

                                        Paulo Gomes Over and Out :D

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                                        • S stephen darling

                                          riced wrote:

                                          If a number is divisible by 5 it must end in 5 or 0

                                          Yes; I was getting confused with the coding issue not the actual math.

                                          riced wrote:

                                          that's primary school arithmetic.

                                          I know, I am a Biomedical Scientist.

                                          riced wrote:

                                          If you don't believe me write out the 5 times table for the numbers 1 to 20.

                                          I do believe you. Like I said, it was the coding side of things. However, it is my fault the way I explained myself, it did indeed look as though I didn’t understand the math itself, and I certainly was not questioning you answer. Sorry if it came across that way, and thank you. Kind Regards, Stephen

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                                          mmwlada
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                                          stephen.darling wrote:

                                          riced wrote:

                                          that's primary school arithmetic.

                                          I know, I am a Biomedical Scientist.

                                          You are NOT a scientist. A scinetist knows elementary math. You should be ashamed of yourself.

                                          There can be only one.

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