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How do I generate a number divisable by 5, and check it?

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  • L Luc Pattyn

    natural numbers are the ordinary counting numbers 1, 2, 3, ... (sometimes zero is also included) is what Wikipedia[^] offers as a definition. Now you can choose: either you include zero and you are allowed to use it at both sides of your 0/x=n, or you exclude it (and then your "except zero" remark that started all this is completely irrelevant). :doh:

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    David1987
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    Yes but that's precisely the point, you can choose.

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    • D David1987

      Generate a random integer in [2000, 19999] and multiply it by 5. The result will always be in [10000, 99999] (ie 5 decimal digits) and be divisible by 5 (by construction)

      int yourNumber = 5 * rand.Next(2000, 20000); // remember the max-bound is exclusive
      if (yourNumber % 5 != 0)
      Console.WriteLine("the universe is wrong");

      And make sure you reuse a single instance of Random, if you create new ones the result won't be random. [/spoon feeding]

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      stephen darling
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      David1987 wrote:

      And make sure you reuse a single instance of Random,

      How exactly do I ensure that I am doing this? I am using rand a number of times, and although I get different values, it does appear that they are very simular. Regards, Stephen

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      • D David1987

        Nope. You seem to think that that is the only definition of divisibility. I did not personally redefine anything. There is no natural number n such that 0/x=n so no x evenly divides 0. If you use the definition with integers instead of natural numbers, everything divides zero. Also, the prime factorization of zero is empty.

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        BobJanova
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        That is a stupid definition. It would also indicate that -10 is not divisible by 5. There may be abstruse mathematical concepts for which it's useful, I suppose, but for normal maths it is nonsense.

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        • S stephen darling

          Does this mean that no matter what number I generate, it will always have to end in 5? e.g. All these numbers are divisable by 5

          39485
          99045
          12095
          49385
          99335

          However, I was under the impression I could generate numbers that would be divisable by 5, but not end in 5? Is this wrong? Regards, Stephen

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          Gary Wheeler
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          All integers evenly divisible by 5 must end in either 5 or 0 when expressed in base 10. This is basic math.

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          • S stephen darling

            Hi. First, how would I create a random number, and then add the last digit, so that it is divisable by 5? the number should always be 5 digits long. Second, how do I check it, I think I need to do something like...

            if (int x MOD 5 ==0)

            Or something like that. The first step is the most important though. Thank you, Steve

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            Tom Chantler
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            Is this a joke question? Generate a four digit number and add an extra number to the end, being either 5 or 0. Then don't check it because it will be correct!!! e.g. 4678; add 5 on the end to give 46785.

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              Hi. First, how would I create a random number, and then add the last digit, so that it is divisable by 5? the number should always be 5 digits long. Second, how do I check it, I think I need to do something like...

              if (int x MOD 5 ==0)

              Or something like that. The first step is the most important though. Thank you, Steve

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              Paulo_JCG
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              Random random = new Random(); return (random.Next(17999) + 2000) * 5; this gives a number divisable by 5 between 10000 and 99995

              Paulo Gomes Over and Out :D

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              • S stephen darling

                riced wrote:

                If a number is divisible by 5 it must end in 5 or 0

                Yes; I was getting confused with the coding issue not the actual math.

                riced wrote:

                that's primary school arithmetic.

                I know, I am a Biomedical Scientist.

                riced wrote:

                If you don't believe me write out the 5 times table for the numbers 1 to 20.

                I do believe you. Like I said, it was the coding side of things. However, it is my fault the way I explained myself, it did indeed look as though I didn’t understand the math itself, and I certainly was not questioning you answer. Sorry if it came across that way, and thank you. Kind Regards, Stephen

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                mmwlada
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                stephen.darling wrote:

                riced wrote:

                that's primary school arithmetic.

                I know, I am a Biomedical Scientist.

                You are NOT a scientist. A scinetist knows elementary math. You should be ashamed of yourself.

                There can be only one.

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                  stephen.darling wrote:

                  riced wrote:

                  that's primary school arithmetic.

                  I know, I am a Biomedical Scientist.

                  You are NOT a scientist. A scinetist knows elementary math. You should be ashamed of yourself.

                  There can be only one.

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                  stephen darling
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                  mmwlada wrote:

                  You are NOT a scientist. A scinetist knows elementary math. You should be ashamed of yourself.

                  How dare you! I may be a beginner in the programming world, but to be spoken to in this way from someone who does not know me is extremely rude! I am indeed a scientist, registered in the UK as a practising biomedical scientist, not that I need to explain myself to you! As for the math, if you took the time to read through the post, you would see that I simply explained myself wrong, and it was the programming that I was struggling with, and not the math. As for being ashamed of myself; I do not know what your problem is, but believe me, I have nothing to be ashamed of, and could now go on to say allot about, and to you, however, I will refrain! Stephen

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                  • S stephen darling

                    riced wrote:

                    If a number is divisible by 5 it must end in 5 or 0

                    Yes; I was getting confused with the coding issue not the actual math.

                    riced wrote:

                    that's primary school arithmetic.

                    I know, I am a Biomedical Scientist.

                    riced wrote:

                    If you don't believe me write out the 5 times table for the numbers 1 to 20.

                    I do believe you. Like I said, it was the coding side of things. However, it is my fault the way I explained myself, it did indeed look as though I didn’t understand the math itself, and I certainly was not questioning you answer. Sorry if it came across that way, and thank you. Kind Regards, Stephen

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                    FunkySteve
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                    Actually, every number is divisible by 5.

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                    • F FunkySteve

                      Actually, every number is divisible by 5.

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                      stephen darling
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                      FunkySteve wrote:

                      Actually, every number is divisible by 5

                      True. Again, my fault for not explaining properly. I meant a modulus of zero, so that 13285 MOD 5 = 0 Got it all sorted now, thanx to most people, disregarding one perticular ignorant comment :confused: Thank you, Steve

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                      • L Luc Pattyn

                        a random multiple of five is bound to be five times some other random number. :omg:

                        Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

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                        Fabio Franco
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                        I'd say you're stating the obvious, but then, I remember when I was very young and inexperienced and I couldn't see stuff like this. So, it's not always obvious as one might think. You got my five.

                        "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson

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                        • S stephen darling

                          Does this mean that no matter what number I generate, it will always have to end in 5? e.g. All these numbers are divisable by 5

                          39485
                          99045
                          12095
                          49385
                          99335

                          However, I was under the impression I could generate numbers that would be divisable by 5, but not end in 5? Is this wrong? Regards, Stephen

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                          Kenneth Kasajian
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                          Is this discussion really taking place? What is this, 3rd grade?

                          ken@kasajian.com / www.kasajian.com

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                          • F Fabio Franco

                            I'd say you're stating the obvious, but then, I remember when I was very young and inexperienced and I couldn't see stuff like this. So, it's not always obvious as one might think. You got my five.

                            "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson

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                            Luc Pattyn
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                            I tend to state facts, even obvious ones, especially when it seems to OP is missing them somehow. Rather than spoon feeding, I prefer to give a gentle push in the right direction... :)

                            Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

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                            • K Kenneth Kasajian

                              Is this discussion really taking place? What is this, 3rd grade?

                              ken@kasajian.com / www.kasajian.com

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                              stephen darling
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                              Kenneth Kasajian wrote:

                              Is this discussion really taking place? What is this, 3rd grade?

                              What is everones problem? I asked how to solve a basic math based problem PROGMATICALLY as I am a beginner when it comes to c#, and I am wishing I never bothered asking! Although, there are a number of people who have offered working solutions. Why must people post such a responce as yours? Did your post really help in anyway? Regards, Stephen

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                              • L Luc Pattyn

                                I tend to state facts, even obvious ones, especially when it seems to OP is missing them somehow. Rather than spoon feeding, I prefer to give a gentle push in the right direction... :)

                                Luc Pattyn [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum

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                                Fabio Franco
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                                Completely agree, I'm totally against the "gimme codezzzz plz" culture.

                                "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson

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                                • D David1987

                                  Nope. You seem to think that that is the only definition of divisibility. I did not personally redefine anything. There is no natural number n such that 0/x=n so no x evenly divides 0. If you use the definition with integers instead of natural numbers, everything divides zero. Also, the prime factorization of zero is empty.

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                                  http://mathworld.wolfram.com/EvenNumber.html[^] Note zero is an even number and by definition dividable by two, the answer is just zero. As a recall from calculus I, you can't divide a number by zero but you can divide a number as the devisor approaches zero.

                                  ARon

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                                  • S stephen darling

                                    Hi. First, how would I create a random number, and then add the last digit, so that it is divisable by 5? the number should always be 5 digits long. Second, how do I check it, I think I need to do something like...

                                    if (int x MOD 5 ==0)

                                    Or something like that. The first step is the most important though. Thank you, Steve

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                                    User 7955466
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                                    Generate a five digit random number, convert to string, replace the right most digit with 5 (or 0), parse the string back to an int. No need to check as anything ending in 5 or 0 is divible by 5.

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                                    • S stephen darling

                                      Does this mean that no matter what number I generate, it will always have to end in 5? e.g. All these numbers are divisable by 5

                                      39485
                                      99045
                                      12095
                                      49385
                                      99335

                                      However, I was under the impression I could generate numbers that would be divisable by 5, but not end in 5? Is this wrong? Regards, Stephen

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                                      RDSchaefer
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                                      Seriously??? Were you sleeping during elementary math classes? I'm sorry but if I were your boss and you asked me that question I would transfer you out of my department over to HR or maybe Daycare. :omg:

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                                      • B BobJanova

                                        That is a stupid definition. It would also indicate that -10 is not divisible by 5. There may be abstruse mathematical concepts for which it's useful, I suppose, but for normal maths it is nonsense.

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                                        David1987
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                                        x is not a natural number there.

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                                        • U User 7955466

                                          Generate a five digit random number, convert to string, replace the right most digit with 5 (or 0), parse the string back to an int. No need to check as anything ending in 5 or 0 is divible by 5.

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                                          Michael A Cochran
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                                          This would work as an alternative but the math approach is better (more performant) unless you want the final value to be a string. And, even then the math approach would be faster. (nnnn*10)=nnnn0 It's the same as appending a "0" to a four-digit number but it's much faster.

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