How companies rate programmers in USA ?
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There is no generic answer to that. As far as I know every single company, despite claims to the contrary, base it on subjective material. Most attempts at objectivity are based on 'tests' which, due to a severe lack of understanding how testing works, is just a subjective determination based on an interviewer (or authors of the test.) There might be some tests that are more objective but due to complexity at best those can only test very basic material. And when I say "might" I mean exactly that. It is unlikely (percentage wise) that one will encounter one of those. And unfortunately sometimes the expected answers are just wrong. And one is probably more likely to encounter that than a truely objective test. So it comes down to what happens in the interview(s). And if there is a test hope that your knowledge and understanding of the topic matches whatever the test giver expects.
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The USA being a communist country, the central board releases guidelines every year on how this should be done. Seriously, this is a crazy question, because every company is different. I'm not even sure what you mean by 'rate' ? Do you mean when deciding to hire ? They hire people who they think will fit in to their teams and do a good job of the work required, surely ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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The USA being a communist country, the central board releases guidelines every year on how this should be done. Seriously, this is a crazy question, because every company is different. I'm not even sure what you mean by 'rate' ? Do you mean when deciding to hire ? They hire people who they think will fit in to their teams and do a good job of the work required, surely ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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The USA being a communist country, the central board releases guidelines every year on how this should be done. Seriously, this is a crazy question, because every company is different. I'm not even sure what you mean by 'rate' ? Do you mean when deciding to hire ? They hire people who they think will fit in to their teams and do a good job of the work required, surely ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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You are so brash that call that a crazy question. Probably just because you have MVP icon.
devboycpp wrote:
You are so brash that call that a crazy question.
No, he's right.
devboycpp wrote:
Probably just because you have MVP icon.
Other way round. Christian is the outstanding member in this community ranked higher and held in loftier regards than any other person. Your question was stupidly worded and not thought out. CG pulled you up for it.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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The USA being a communist country, the central board releases guidelines every year on how this should be done. Seriously, this is a crazy question, because every company is different. I'm not even sure what you mean by 'rate' ? Do you mean when deciding to hire ? They hire people who they think will fit in to their teams and do a good job of the work required, surely ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
Christian Graus wrote:
the central board releases guidelines every year on how this should be done.
As I was interviewing at one company they showed me a list of job titles: Programmer I, Programmer II, Software Developer I, etc. Each title having a description for what each meant and a corresponding experience level. They told me to pick out the title that matched my skills. I guessed (correctly as it turned out) that they were going to use this to base my pay on. So to play the game I picked a description that required about 5 more years experience than I actually had. :-\
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devboycpp wrote:
You are so brash that call that a crazy question.
No, he's right.
devboycpp wrote:
Probably just because you have MVP icon.
Other way round. Christian is the outstanding member in this community ranked higher and held in loftier regards than any other person. Your question was stupidly worded and not thought out. CG pulled you up for it.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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The USA being a communist country, the central board releases guidelines every year on how this should be done. Seriously, this is a crazy question, because every company is different. I'm not even sure what you mean by 'rate' ? Do you mean when deciding to hire ? They hire people who they think will fit in to their teams and do a good job of the work required, surely ?
Christian Graus Driven to the arms of OSX by Vista. Read my blog to find out how I've worked around bugs in Microsoft tools and frameworks.
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You are his adherent so you defend him. Just because I asked a general question does not make it a stupid question. No matter how high Christian is ranked in CP. He was totally wrong.
devboycpp wrote:
You are his adherent so you defend him.
Baseless accusation is rude.
devboycpp wrote:
Just because I asked a general question does not make it a stupid question.
It's not about how your question is general or technical. You're basically asking what toppings does Americans like in their pizzas. That's just too much.
devboycpp wrote:
He was totally wrong.
Care to explain?
Excuse me for my improper grammar and typos. It's because English is my primary language, not my first language. My first languages are C# and Java. VB, ASP, JS, PHP and SQL are my second language. Indonesian came as my third language. My fourth language? I'm still creating it, I'll let you know when it's done! :-D
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devboycpp wrote:
You are his adherent so you defend him.
Baseless accusation is rude.
devboycpp wrote:
Just because I asked a general question does not make it a stupid question.
It's not about how your question is general or technical. You're basically asking what toppings does Americans like in their pizzas. That's just too much.
devboycpp wrote:
He was totally wrong.
Care to explain?
Excuse me for my improper grammar and typos. It's because English is my primary language, not my first language. My first languages are C# and Java. VB, ASP, JS, PHP and SQL are my second language. Indonesian came as my third language. My fourth language? I'm still creating it, I'll let you know when it's done! :-D
Firo Atrum Ventus wrote:
You're basically asking what toppings does Americans like in their pizzas.
That parable is not relevant in this case. Because companies are not comparable to people eating pizzas. it is like comparing a human reading to a cockroach walking on the wall.
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Firo Atrum Ventus wrote:
You're basically asking what toppings does Americans like in their pizzas.
That parable is not relevant in this case. Because companies are not comparable to people eating pizzas. it is like comparing a human reading to a cockroach walking on the wall.
Firo's example is correct. There are as many different criteria as there are companies. Some want experience, others prefer potential. Where a particular skill is needed by one company it will be a negative with another. Sociable or quite? Depends on the company. Smart / casual? Every company is different and as such has different requirements, there is no single underlying trend for an American company; technical or not.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Firo's example is correct. There are as many different criteria as there are companies. Some want experience, others prefer potential. Where a particular skill is needed by one company it will be a negative with another. Sociable or quite? Depends on the company. Smart / casual? Every company is different and as such has different requirements, there is no single underlying trend for an American company; technical or not.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
Nagy Vilmos wrote:
There are as many different criteria as there are companies.
Some want experience, others prefer potential.
Where a particular skill is needed by one company it will be a negative with another.
Sociable or quite? Depends on the company.
Smart / casual?
Every company is different and as such has different requirements, there is no single underlying trend for an American company; technical or not.So considering my abilities I should be so hopeful to get employed in a company in US as there is a wide range of requirements in one of which at least I fit. I mean getting employed as a web developer must not be hard. Good news if it is true.
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Firo Atrum Ventus wrote:
You're basically asking what toppings does Americans like in their pizzas.
That parable is not relevant in this case. Because companies are not comparable to people eating pizzas. it is like comparing a human reading to a cockroach walking on the wall.
Ohhh but if you only knew how many times my employer has reffered to me as the sausage... er wait. That sounds bad. Ah well. Came to the BR and there ya have it ;P
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