How about this novel idea
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stop talking about votes and reputation (even if you are joking, which I highly doubt). You should be happy you even get recognition and points on this site. Most sites just give you a swift kick in the ass and an exit sign.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
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stop talking about votes and reputation (even if you are joking, which I highly doubt). You should be happy you even get recognition and points on this site. Most sites just give you a swift kick in the ass and an exit sign.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Just giving you a vote to increase your reputation for not talking about your rep..... errrr. :laugh:
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stop talking about votes and reputation (even if you are joking, which I highly doubt). You should be happy you even get recognition and points on this site. Most sites just give you a swift kick in the ass and an exit sign.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
stop talking about votes and reputation (even if you are joking, which I highly doubt). You should be happy you even get recognition and points on this site. Most sites just give you a swift kick in the ass and an exit sign.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)How much did that post increase your reputation?
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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How much did that post increase your reputation?
Forgive your enemies - it messes with their heads
"Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
How much did that post increase your reputation?
I didn't ask anyone to vote. So I really don't care. 24 wonderful, glorious points, if you really must know. :)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
How much did that post increase your reputation?
I didn't ask anyone to vote. So I really don't care. 24 wonderful, glorious points, if you really must know. :)
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Slacker007 wrote:
24 wonderful, glorious points, if you really must know.
Okay, how about now? :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics
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stop talking about votes and reputation (even if you are joking, which I highly doubt). You should be happy you even get recognition and points on this site. Most sites just give you a swift kick in the ass and an exit sign.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)I know you are probably being semi-humorous here but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today. If CP hadn't adopted something like it, it may not have been able to catch up with other sites like MSDN forums (where they have a new status/medal/points system) and Stack Overflow (where they have a very similar and more complex rep score system). Sadly, I personally know that Chris had this idea way before sites like Stack Overflow were born. I don't know the exact reasons (I am guessing lack of time) but he delayed implementing it on CP for a long time (and by that time other sites came up with the same ideas). Most people who seriously contribute here (responding in Q-A, forums, writing in-depth articles) do it voluntarily but the vast majority of them enjoy the psychological boost they get out of the rep scores. The reasoning is similar to why major software companies have MVP programs. It allows volunteer contributors to keep relative track of how they contribute over others. It’s for the same reason that charities have a hall of fame of their top contributors. Even the really good guys need their egos boosted, because they are human and that’s a good thing.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics
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I know you are probably being semi-humorous here but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today. If CP hadn't adopted something like it, it may not have been able to catch up with other sites like MSDN forums (where they have a new status/medal/points system) and Stack Overflow (where they have a very similar and more complex rep score system). Sadly, I personally know that Chris had this idea way before sites like Stack Overflow were born. I don't know the exact reasons (I am guessing lack of time) but he delayed implementing it on CP for a long time (and by that time other sites came up with the same ideas). Most people who seriously contribute here (responding in Q-A, forums, writing in-depth articles) do it voluntarily but the vast majority of them enjoy the psychological boost they get out of the rep scores. The reasoning is similar to why major software companies have MVP programs. It allows volunteer contributors to keep relative track of how they contribute over others. It’s for the same reason that charities have a hall of fame of their top contributors. Even the really good guys need their egos boosted, because they are human and that’s a good thing.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today.
Maybe in part but not in entirety. However, I know what you mean. I go to a lot of different websites for my coding insight, research, and general knowledge (i.e. answers :) ) but I ALWAYS come back here. This site has something that not even Stack Overblow or other sites have...personality. I love this site. I think most of us do and we will do anything and everything to keep the hampsters well fed. :)
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Even the really good guys need their egos boosted, because they are human and that’s a good thing.
I like a good ego boost every now and then, this is true. However, I am not for new an inventive ways of boosting my ego; such as, where and how can I get more ego points.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today.
Maybe in part but not in entirety. However, I know what you mean. I go to a lot of different websites for my coding insight, research, and general knowledge (i.e. answers :) ) but I ALWAYS come back here. This site has something that not even Stack Overblow or other sites have...personality. I love this site. I think most of us do and we will do anything and everything to keep the hampsters well fed. :)
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Even the really good guys need their egos boosted, because they are human and that’s a good thing.
I like a good ego boost every now and then, this is true. However, I am not for new an inventive ways of boosting my ego; such as, where and how can I get more ego points.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Slacker007 wrote:
I like a good ego boost every now and then, this is true. However, I am not for new an inventive ways of boosting my ego; such as, where and how can I get more ego points.
That's because you are like one of those super selfless guys, I am talking about Gandhi and Jesus and the like :rolleyes:
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics
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I know you are probably being semi-humorous here but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today. If CP hadn't adopted something like it, it may not have been able to catch up with other sites like MSDN forums (where they have a new status/medal/points system) and Stack Overflow (where they have a very similar and more complex rep score system). Sadly, I personally know that Chris had this idea way before sites like Stack Overflow were born. I don't know the exact reasons (I am guessing lack of time) but he delayed implementing it on CP for a long time (and by that time other sites came up with the same ideas). Most people who seriously contribute here (responding in Q-A, forums, writing in-depth articles) do it voluntarily but the vast majority of them enjoy the psychological boost they get out of the rep scores. The reasoning is similar to why major software companies have MVP programs. It allows volunteer contributors to keep relative track of how they contribute over others. It’s for the same reason that charities have a hall of fame of their top contributors. Even the really good guys need their egos boosted, because they are human and that’s a good thing.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I know you are probably being semi-humorous here but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today
Well, I don't know if you're being serious or not, but you've obviously missed the point by a very wide margin. Two things happened simultaneously when CodeProject unleashed the rep system. First, the rep system became a goal unto itself, totally distinct from any underpinning in reality, or whether the member in question has made any true contribution to the community; second - and probably more detrimental - the CodeProject site became a huge online game, complete with rules (that can frequently be circumvented), winners, losers, rewards in the form of rep points, and a shooting gallery (Q&A Forums) that has become very popular for a quick break. Ironically, the rep system itself has probably done more to harm CodeProject's reputation than any other change since the site began. If by "keeping competitive" you mean lowering the maturity level to that of sniveling teenagers, then yes, I agree with you - we have arrived at that level. So when you talk of "the psychological boost they get out of the rep scores", I have a vision of a new forum devoted entirely to rep points. Pointless and ludicrous, but why not? We already have entire articles devoted to scraping rep points. The next time you talk to Chris, ask him how many hours he puts into chasing down rep point snafus and complaints. This is the wagging tail of the great CP Game.
Best wishes, Hans
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I know you are probably being semi-humorous here but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today
Well, I don't know if you're being serious or not, but you've obviously missed the point by a very wide margin. Two things happened simultaneously when CodeProject unleashed the rep system. First, the rep system became a goal unto itself, totally distinct from any underpinning in reality, or whether the member in question has made any true contribution to the community; second - and probably more detrimental - the CodeProject site became a huge online game, complete with rules (that can frequently be circumvented), winners, losers, rewards in the form of rep points, and a shooting gallery (Q&A Forums) that has become very popular for a quick break. Ironically, the rep system itself has probably done more to harm CodeProject's reputation than any other change since the site began. If by "keeping competitive" you mean lowering the maturity level to that of sniveling teenagers, then yes, I agree with you - we have arrived at that level. So when you talk of "the psychological boost they get out of the rep scores", I have a vision of a new forum devoted entirely to rep points. Pointless and ludicrous, but why not? We already have entire articles devoted to scraping rep points. The next time you talk to Chris, ask him how many hours he puts into chasing down rep point snafus and complaints. This is the wagging tail of the great CP Game.
Best wishes, Hans
I think, Hans, you have missed the point too, a little. Many people truly enjoy having recognition of participation.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I know you are probably being semi-humorous here but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today
Well, I don't know if you're being serious or not, but you've obviously missed the point by a very wide margin. Two things happened simultaneously when CodeProject unleashed the rep system. First, the rep system became a goal unto itself, totally distinct from any underpinning in reality, or whether the member in question has made any true contribution to the community; second - and probably more detrimental - the CodeProject site became a huge online game, complete with rules (that can frequently be circumvented), winners, losers, rewards in the form of rep points, and a shooting gallery (Q&A Forums) that has become very popular for a quick break. Ironically, the rep system itself has probably done more to harm CodeProject's reputation than any other change since the site began. If by "keeping competitive" you mean lowering the maturity level to that of sniveling teenagers, then yes, I agree with you - we have arrived at that level. So when you talk of "the psychological boost they get out of the rep scores", I have a vision of a new forum devoted entirely to rep points. Pointless and ludicrous, but why not? We already have entire articles devoted to scraping rep points. The next time you talk to Chris, ask him how many hours he puts into chasing down rep point snafus and complaints. This is the wagging tail of the great CP Game.
Best wishes, Hans
Why does it matter to you (or anyone else) what the reasons are that drive people into contributing here? Someone answering questions in Q-A for purely altruistic reasons does not contribute any more or any less than someone doing the same to boost his reputation score. I don’t think any of us here (including Chris) has the moral ascendancy to judge the motives/ethics behind a member’s contributions here. As far as the website is concerned, what matters is that the community gets helped out in the best manner possible.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics
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I think, Hans, you have missed the point too, a little. Many people truly enjoy having recognition of participation.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
Many people truly enjoy having recognition of participation.
This! I personally enjoy seeing my rep score climb up when I post articles or get up-votes. But is that my solitary reason for contributing here? The answer to that would be that over 80% of my articles and posts were published way before the rep score system went live. If the rep score system was cancelled in future, it would take away some fun, but it won't stop me (or most other people) from participating here. Many old-time regulars have left for other reasons (which are off-topic to this thread), but as far as I know not a single person has left because the site's now giving people points for answering.
Regards, Nish
My technology blog: voidnish.wordpress.com Part 2 in my WinRT/C++ series : Visual C++ and WinRT/Metro - Databinding Basics
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I know you are probably being semi-humorous here but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today
Well, I don't know if you're being serious or not, but you've obviously missed the point by a very wide margin. Two things happened simultaneously when CodeProject unleashed the rep system. First, the rep system became a goal unto itself, totally distinct from any underpinning in reality, or whether the member in question has made any true contribution to the community; second - and probably more detrimental - the CodeProject site became a huge online game, complete with rules (that can frequently be circumvented), winners, losers, rewards in the form of rep points, and a shooting gallery (Q&A Forums) that has become very popular for a quick break. Ironically, the rep system itself has probably done more to harm CodeProject's reputation than any other change since the site began. If by "keeping competitive" you mean lowering the maturity level to that of sniveling teenagers, then yes, I agree with you - we have arrived at that level. So when you talk of "the psychological boost they get out of the rep scores", I have a vision of a new forum devoted entirely to rep points. Pointless and ludicrous, but why not? We already have entire articles devoted to scraping rep points. The next time you talk to Chris, ask him how many hours he puts into chasing down rep point snafus and complaints. This is the wagging tail of the great CP Game.
Best wishes, Hans
Nothing to add! :thumbsup:
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I know you are probably being semi-humorous here but the reputation system is what keeps Code Project competitive today
Well, I don't know if you're being serious or not, but you've obviously missed the point by a very wide margin. Two things happened simultaneously when CodeProject unleashed the rep system. First, the rep system became a goal unto itself, totally distinct from any underpinning in reality, or whether the member in question has made any true contribution to the community; second - and probably more detrimental - the CodeProject site became a huge online game, complete with rules (that can frequently be circumvented), winners, losers, rewards in the form of rep points, and a shooting gallery (Q&A Forums) that has become very popular for a quick break. Ironically, the rep system itself has probably done more to harm CodeProject's reputation than any other change since the site began. If by "keeping competitive" you mean lowering the maturity level to that of sniveling teenagers, then yes, I agree with you - we have arrived at that level. So when you talk of "the psychological boost they get out of the rep scores", I have a vision of a new forum devoted entirely to rep points. Pointless and ludicrous, but why not? We already have entire articles devoted to scraping rep points. The next time you talk to Chris, ask him how many hours he puts into chasing down rep point snafus and complaints. This is the wagging tail of the great CP Game.
Best wishes, Hans
Hans Dietrich wrote:
the CodeProject site became a huge online game
It is a game. Read about gamification. Even Stack Exchange does it. Here is a quote from Jeff Atwood:
Jeff Atwood wrote:
I play the Stack Exchange game happily alongside everyone else, collecting reputation and badges and rank and upvotes, and I am proud to do so, because I believe it ultimately helps me become more knowledgeable and a better communicator while also improving the very fabric of the web for everyone. I hope you feel the same way.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.