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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    My A/C stopped working on Monday of last week. At the time of the failure, I heard a thumping sound under the dash, and presumed that a lever that served to control a ducted door had broken. On Thursday, I took it to the Ford dealer for repair. 0) It was in fact an "actuator" that needed to be replaced. 1) The repair cost $673, and took all day to perform. 2) On Friday morning, I started to drive to work. My new house is in a more rural area, andthere are deer EVERYWHERE. I flipped on my (self-installed) driving lights for better visibility. Nothing happend. The service tech had somehow disabled my driving lights. No problem, I'll fix them on Saturday. 3) On Saturday, I was getting ready to repair the driving lights, and found a piece of dark gray plastic laying on the passenger seat that (I think) came from the center console glovebox. At this point, I decided that the Ford dealer should fix the problems, because I didn't want to be blamed for breaking whatever it was that got broken while attempting to fix the driving lights that the dealer managed to disable. 4) This morning, before leaving for work, I decided to remove the towels from the back seat from when we were moving, and found a shop rag stuck between the back of the center console and the transmission tunnel. This was proof to me that the Ford dealer was indeed the responsible party. 5) I have an appointment at the service department so they can fixe the stuff they broken when they fixed my car, and this appointment will effectively absorb all of my free time on Veterans Day. 6) It seems as if Ford and AT&T share the same service tech retards. 7) Sometimes, you gotta say "FUCK!"

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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    Ring Ford and let them know your AT&T truck needs towing from outside "Sunrise Pass". Then ring A&T and let them know you need them around at "Sunrise Pass" immediately to fix some wiring gone wrong(tell them it's around the back of the house). Drive to just outside "Sunrise Pass" with your binoculars and enjoy. That should mess with their heads... :laugh: On second thoughts probably best not do that... :sigh:

    Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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      My A/C stopped working on Monday of last week. At the time of the failure, I heard a thumping sound under the dash, and presumed that a lever that served to control a ducted door had broken. On Thursday, I took it to the Ford dealer for repair. 0) It was in fact an "actuator" that needed to be replaced. 1) The repair cost $673, and took all day to perform. 2) On Friday morning, I started to drive to work. My new house is in a more rural area, andthere are deer EVERYWHERE. I flipped on my (self-installed) driving lights for better visibility. Nothing happend. The service tech had somehow disabled my driving lights. No problem, I'll fix them on Saturday. 3) On Saturday, I was getting ready to repair the driving lights, and found a piece of dark gray plastic laying on the passenger seat that (I think) came from the center console glovebox. At this point, I decided that the Ford dealer should fix the problems, because I didn't want to be blamed for breaking whatever it was that got broken while attempting to fix the driving lights that the dealer managed to disable. 4) This morning, before leaving for work, I decided to remove the towels from the back seat from when we were moving, and found a shop rag stuck between the back of the center console and the transmission tunnel. This was proof to me that the Ford dealer was indeed the responsible party. 5) I have an appointment at the service department so they can fixe the stuff they broken when they fixed my car, and this appointment will effectively absorb all of my free time on Veterans Day. 6) It seems as if Ford and AT&T share the same service tech retards. 7) Sometimes, you gotta say "FUCK!"

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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        First On Race Day I've heard 'em all. I have 102k miles on the car (7.5 years old), and this is only the 2nd time it's cost me money for service. It doesn't rattle or squeak, the paint is still good on it, and I'm even still on the original brakes. I'd say that's a pretty good return on investment, and it's been paid off for three years, so go ahead and joke about it. My next car will be a Ford, too.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          First On Race Day I've heard 'em all. I have 102k miles on the car (7.5 years old), and this is only the 2nd time it's cost me money for service. It doesn't rattle or squeak, the paint is still good on it, and I'm even still on the original brakes. I'd say that's a pretty good return on investment, and it's been paid off for three years, so go ahead and joke about it. My next car will be a Ford, too.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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          My main gripe about Fords is that although they make fairly good engines, the gearboxes are not up to scratch. They are reliable enough but seem somehow under geared. Mind you, I am spoilt a bit, I have a history of Jaguars, MR2's and Opel Senators, so I kind of base automotive opinion on the upper range of the genre.

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            My main gripe about Fords is that although they make fairly good engines, the gearboxes are not up to scratch. They are reliable enough but seem somehow under geared. Mind you, I am spoilt a bit, I have a history of Jaguars, MR2's and Opel Senators, so I kind of base automotive opinion on the upper range of the genre.

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            I had a '65 Mustang with a Toploader 4-speed, and that thing was bullet-proof. It was fairly old though, and the pilot bearing eventually gave out after years of hard driving (on race courses and on the street), and I can't complain about the quality - even with an exploded pilot bearing, the rest of the transmission was unscathed. I had to tear it completely down sand flush it out to evacuate all the bearing parts. As far as the automatics are concerned, I don't generally abuse them. The one in my Crown Vic has been flawless. Gears can be replaced in a manual transmission, but automatics need a different computer chip installed to change shift-points, and sometimes even a different stall converter, and that's true of every car made today - not just Fords.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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              Fix Or Repair Daily

              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

              I'm looking forward to it; primarily because it should wipe that smug grin off Steve Jobs face.

              CPallini wrote:

              You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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                My main gripe about Fords is that although they make fairly good engines, the gearboxes are not up to scratch. They are reliable enough but seem somehow under geared. Mind you, I am spoilt a bit, I have a history of Jaguars, MR2's and Opel Senators, so I kind of base automotive opinion on the upper range of the genre.

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                Dalek Dave wrote:

                I am spoilt a bit, I have a history of Opel Senators

                That gets a 5! :-D

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                • S Shelby Robertson

                  Fix Or Repair Daily

                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                  I'm looking forward to it; primarily because it should wipe that smug grin off Steve Jobs face.

                  CPallini wrote:

                  You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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                  In reality, not even close to "daily". I've had exactly three service instances in the 7.5 years I've owned the car, for a grand total of 3 days (out of over 2700 days): 0) Warranty replacement of both catalytic converters (45K miles). 1) A vaccuum hose sprung a leak, and while it was being repaired, I had them do a tune-up on the car (95K miles). 2) The actuator repair last week (102K miles). I'd say that's a pretty good record for any car, even AFTER you add this Friday's service to fix what they broke. Beyond that, I've had to replace the battery once (a year ago), and I'm on my second set of replacement tires (replaced at 44K miles and 100K miles). I suspect that it will be quite a while before I will need a new set of tires since I'm now driving just 1/3 the distance to/from work than I was two weeks ago, and the tires are supposed to go 60K miles, not to mention that I don't have to drive 30 miles to the shooting range any more because the range I go to most frequently is just five miles down the road. The same myth is applied to Harley-Davidsons. I had my 1994 Harley Softail Classic for 12 years, and put 85K miles on it, and it was never once in the shop for anything beyond normally scheduled maintenance service, never left me on the side of the road, and never leaked a drop of oil. It was even still on the original clutch pack and final drive belt that the bike shipped with. Despite these more common traits of the bike, the myth of unreliability and oil leaks that would rival the scope of the Exxon-Valdiz persist. To be quite honest, the myth in both cases is so far removed from reality that it's not even a little funny any more. I just shake my head and walk away from folks that spew bullsh*t just to hear themselves talk.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                    In reality, not even close to "daily". I've had exactly three service instances in the 7.5 years I've owned the car, for a grand total of 3 days (out of over 2700 days): 0) Warranty replacement of both catalytic converters (45K miles). 1) A vaccuum hose sprung a leak, and while it was being repaired, I had them do a tune-up on the car (95K miles). 2) The actuator repair last week (102K miles). I'd say that's a pretty good record for any car, even AFTER you add this Friday's service to fix what they broke. Beyond that, I've had to replace the battery once (a year ago), and I'm on my second set of replacement tires (replaced at 44K miles and 100K miles). I suspect that it will be quite a while before I will need a new set of tires since I'm now driving just 1/3 the distance to/from work than I was two weeks ago, and the tires are supposed to go 60K miles, not to mention that I don't have to drive 30 miles to the shooting range any more because the range I go to most frequently is just five miles down the road. The same myth is applied to Harley-Davidsons. I had my 1994 Harley Softail Classic for 12 years, and put 85K miles on it, and it was never once in the shop for anything beyond normally scheduled maintenance service, never left me on the side of the road, and never leaked a drop of oil. It was even still on the original clutch pack and final drive belt that the bike shipped with. Despite these more common traits of the bike, the myth of unreliability and oil leaks that would rival the scope of the Exxon-Valdiz persist. To be quite honest, the myth in both cases is so far removed from reality that it's not even a little funny any more. I just shake my head and walk away from folks that spew bullsh*t just to hear themselves talk.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                    I was just going for the humor. I have owned a Ford/Mazda for my last 3 vehicles. Knock on wood, I've had very few issues.

                    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                    I'm looking forward to it; primarily because it should wipe that smug grin off Steve Jobs face.

                    CPallini wrote:

                    You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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                      I was just going for the humor. I have owned a Ford/Mazda for my last 3 vehicles. Knock on wood, I've had very few issues.

                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      I'm looking forward to it; primarily because it should wipe that smug grin off Steve Jobs face.

                      CPallini wrote:

                      You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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                      Shelby Robertson wrote:

                      Knock on wood, I've had very few issues.

                      I know. :) I was referring to brand snobs that look down their noses at us common folk that buy low-tech/work-a-day brands. When I was into truly fast cars (60's era muscle cars), I didn't get much grief from fellow hot-rodders because I had a truly fast car that was super reliable (my 65 Mustang). I actually got endless hassle from BMW and Honda owners about my Harley, and I think they were always a little disappointed when my air-cooled carbureted low-tech poor-excuse-for-a-motorcycle showed up at events, obviating their lack of knowledge about the current state of Harley-Davidsons. Still, they insisted that the bike was prone to some kind of catastrophic failure at the worse possible time. I sold the bike in 2006 for $17500 - $2.5K MORE than what I bought it for. Try to get that much for a 12-year-old Honda Goldwing with 85K miles on it... :)

                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        Shelby Robertson wrote:

                        Knock on wood, I've had very few issues.

                        I know. :) I was referring to brand snobs that look down their noses at us common folk that buy low-tech/work-a-day brands. When I was into truly fast cars (60's era muscle cars), I didn't get much grief from fellow hot-rodders because I had a truly fast car that was super reliable (my 65 Mustang). I actually got endless hassle from BMW and Honda owners about my Harley, and I think they were always a little disappointed when my air-cooled carbureted low-tech poor-excuse-for-a-motorcycle showed up at events, obviating their lack of knowledge about the current state of Harley-Davidsons. Still, they insisted that the bike was prone to some kind of catastrophic failure at the worse possible time. I sold the bike in 2006 for $17500 - $2.5K MORE than what I bought it for. Try to get that much for a 12-year-old Honda Goldwing with 85K miles on it... :)

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        I sold the bike in 2006 for $17500 - $2.5K MORE than what I bought it for. Try to get that much for a 12-year-old Honda Goldwing with 85K miles on it...

                        :thumbsup:

                        Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                        I'm looking forward to it; primarily because it should wipe that smug grin off Steve Jobs face.

                        CPallini wrote:

                        You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          My A/C stopped working on Monday of last week. At the time of the failure, I heard a thumping sound under the dash, and presumed that a lever that served to control a ducted door had broken. On Thursday, I took it to the Ford dealer for repair. 0) It was in fact an "actuator" that needed to be replaced. 1) The repair cost $673, and took all day to perform. 2) On Friday morning, I started to drive to work. My new house is in a more rural area, andthere are deer EVERYWHERE. I flipped on my (self-installed) driving lights for better visibility. Nothing happend. The service tech had somehow disabled my driving lights. No problem, I'll fix them on Saturday. 3) On Saturday, I was getting ready to repair the driving lights, and found a piece of dark gray plastic laying on the passenger seat that (I think) came from the center console glovebox. At this point, I decided that the Ford dealer should fix the problems, because I didn't want to be blamed for breaking whatever it was that got broken while attempting to fix the driving lights that the dealer managed to disable. 4) This morning, before leaving for work, I decided to remove the towels from the back seat from when we were moving, and found a shop rag stuck between the back of the center console and the transmission tunnel. This was proof to me that the Ford dealer was indeed the responsible party. 5) I have an appointment at the service department so they can fixe the stuff they broken when they fixed my car, and this appointment will effectively absorb all of my free time on Veterans Day. 6) It seems as if Ford and AT&T share the same service tech retards. 7) Sometimes, you gotta say "FUCK!"

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                          Moved.

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                            My A/C stopped working on Monday of last week. At the time of the failure, I heard a thumping sound under the dash, and presumed that a lever that served to control a ducted door had broken. On Thursday, I took it to the Ford dealer for repair. 0) It was in fact an "actuator" that needed to be replaced. 1) The repair cost $673, and took all day to perform. 2) On Friday morning, I started to drive to work. My new house is in a more rural area, andthere are deer EVERYWHERE. I flipped on my (self-installed) driving lights for better visibility. Nothing happend. The service tech had somehow disabled my driving lights. No problem, I'll fix them on Saturday. 3) On Saturday, I was getting ready to repair the driving lights, and found a piece of dark gray plastic laying on the passenger seat that (I think) came from the center console glovebox. At this point, I decided that the Ford dealer should fix the problems, because I didn't want to be blamed for breaking whatever it was that got broken while attempting to fix the driving lights that the dealer managed to disable. 4) This morning, before leaving for work, I decided to remove the towels from the back seat from when we were moving, and found a shop rag stuck between the back of the center console and the transmission tunnel. This was proof to me that the Ford dealer was indeed the responsible party. 5) I have an appointment at the service department so they can fixe the stuff they broken when they fixed my car, and this appointment will effectively absorb all of my free time on Veterans Day. 6) It seems as if Ford and AT&T share the same service tech retards. 7) Sometimes, you gotta say "FUCK!"

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                            The repair cost $673, and took all day to perform.

                            Real men fix their own cars. ;P Head skim, stick on the mill. Chassis corrosion? Get the MIG welder out. New clutch? Get the box out and change then thing! Maybe us English are just too manly for you wimpy Americans! ;P

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                              I was just going for the humor. I have owned a Ford/Mazda for my last 3 vehicles. Knock on wood, I've had very few issues.

                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              I'm looking forward to it; primarily because it should wipe that smug grin off Steve Jobs face.

                              CPallini wrote:

                              You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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                              Once owned a Mazda. Never again. It would not run in the rain. Mazda could not find a problem, two independent repair shops could not find the problem. Started driving Toyota's until I hit a deer. Now I drive whatever used vehicle I can afford. FORD = Found On Road Dead - Note I actually like Ford's as my first car was a used '62 Falcon. You could not kill the thing. I swear it ran on four of the six cylinders. I put in new floor boards and seat belts and it was good to go.

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                                John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                The repair cost $673, and took all day to perform.

                                Real men fix their own cars. ;P Head skim, stick on the mill. Chassis corrosion? Get the MIG welder out. New clutch? Get the box out and change then thing! Maybe us English are just too manly for you wimpy Americans! ;P

                                ============================== Nothing to say.

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                                Erudite__Eric wrote:

                                Real men fix their own cars.

                                I used to, until the damn things became innundated with computers.

                                Erudite__Eric wrote:

                                Head skim, stick on the mill.

                                Cast iron heads rarely needed that (as opposed to aluminum heads which are prone to warping), unless you were trying to increase the compression ratio.

                                Erudite__Eric wrote:

                                Chassis corrosion? Get the MIG welder out.

                                I don't have the soldering gene, much less the welding gene.

                                Erudite__Eric wrote:

                                New clutch? Get the box out and change then thing!

                                Anyone can change a clutch.

                                Erudite__Eric wrote:

                                Maybe us English are just too manly for you wimpy Americans!

                                What they did was probably a lot of work because they had to remove the center console, the heater controls, the radio, the glove box, and a good portion of the under-dash wiring in order to even get to the thing that needed to be fixed. It would have taken me at least two days to do the same work - on a car I needed to go back and forth to work. If it was an old car (like my 65 Mustang) that I maintained as a hobby, it would have been no trouble to perform such a repair myself because I could have left it in the driveway while it was being worked on.

                                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997

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                                  Fix Or Repair Daily

                                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                  I'm looking forward to it; primarily because it should wipe that smug grin off Steve Jobs face.

                                  CPallini wrote:

                                  You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:

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                                  Shelby Robertson wrote:

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                                  :) Thats the one I know. FIAT is Fix It Again Toni. Or Found In A Tip. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I love Fiats though, so looose, so fun, so eager. OK, not quick, but you can't thrash any car likw you can a Fiat. They love it! :)

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                                    Once owned a Mazda. Never again. It would not run in the rain. Mazda could not find a problem, two independent repair shops could not find the problem. Started driving Toyota's until I hit a deer. Now I drive whatever used vehicle I can afford. FORD = Found On Road Dead - Note I actually like Ford's as my first car was a used '62 Falcon. You could not kill the thing. I swear it ran on four of the six cylinders. I put in new floor boards and seat belts and it was good to go.

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                                    A friend of mine had a 64 Falcon with a 260. His mom said she'd help finance a new motor when the current one blew up (we were planning on putting in a 351 Cleveland). One Saturday, she went shopping and me and Eddie (the friend) drained the oil and water out of the car, fired it up, and ran it at about 7000 RPM until the motor seized up. To cover our tracks, we put the used oil back into the crankcase, and the water back into the radiator, and waited for his mom to get home. By the time she came back from shopping, the car had cooled almost all the way down. Eddie made a big commotion about going somewhere and had his mom come out to bring him his wallet that he'd strategically left on the kitchen table. When she approached the car, he turned the key, expecting nothing to happen. Imagine our surprise when the car sounded as if it wasn't going to start, but then after a backfire and an impressive cloud of smoke through the exhaust, it fired up and ran like a freakin' top. The motor ran flawlessly for another year and-a-half before finally coming to a grisly end at the hands of a failed head gasket. I still wonder if Eddie didn't purposely loosen a couple of head bolts to cause the gasket to "leak". :)

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                                      When you moved it, all the votes in the thread went missing.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                        Erudite__Eric wrote:

                                        Real men fix their own cars.

                                        I used to, until the damn things became innundated with computers.

                                        Erudite__Eric wrote:

                                        Head skim, stick on the mill.

                                        Cast iron heads rarely needed that (as opposed to aluminum heads which are prone to warping), unless you were trying to increase the compression ratio.

                                        Erudite__Eric wrote:

                                        Chassis corrosion? Get the MIG welder out.

                                        I don't have the soldering gene, much less the welding gene.

                                        Erudite__Eric wrote:

                                        New clutch? Get the box out and change then thing!

                                        Anyone can change a clutch.

                                        Erudite__Eric wrote:

                                        Maybe us English are just too manly for you wimpy Americans!

                                        What they did was probably a lot of work because they had to remove the center console, the heater controls, the radio, the glove box, and a good portion of the under-dash wiring in order to even get to the thing that needed to be fixed. It would have taken me at least two days to do the same work - on a car I needed to go back and forth to work. If it was an old car (like my 65 Mustang) that I maintained as a hobby, it would have been no trouble to perform such a repair myself because I could have left it in the driveway while it was being worked on.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        I used to, until the damn things became innundated with computers.

                                        I had a Renault 25, circa late 80s. Computer, relays yada yada yada. It diead at some traffic lights in Bristol. I pulled a spark plug, it was sparking. Hmm thinks I, fuel injection relays. Get a taxi to a local motor factors (parts supplier). Got a couple of relays, fitted them, crank it over, it runs. 2 hours, back on the road, another 2 hours I am home. Dont be scared of computers. They are just more crap to deal with, but they normally work. It is the sensors, the ancilleries that die.

                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        unless you were trying to increase the compression ratio.

                                        Took 2.5 mm off a Fiat 1300 head once to run a static 11.5 : 1 co0mpression ratio. OKm it was a BIG cam. 300 duration, 180 degree overlap. It was a beast. Didnt do FA till it got to 4000 rpm. After that it lit up like a nuclear power station! Damn, did the thing rev! Twin Webber 40 down-draughts, DNCFs, 421 exhaust, ported head, cut valves. All the way to 9000. Great motors fiats, truly great.

                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        , much less the welding gene.

                                        OK, I am actually a qualified welder. I used to work as one when I was young and dicking around. It is still second nature to me to weld stuff together.

                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        What they did was probably a lot of work because they had to remove the center console, the heater controls,

                                        That is always a major PITA. To get to the heater unit you have to take out all the dash. And you never get it back straight. It realy is a pain. But it is clean. Sit in the seat, weild the screwdrivers, and out it pops. Not like a clutch. Creasy, dircty,, cold concrete. 50 kgs of metal above your head.... But real men eh? Nowt like it! :)

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                                          When you moved it, all the votes in the thread went missing.

                                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                          Oh dont tell me you are a vote obsessed CPeat? Holy crap, leave that to the accountant and the hungarian! :laugh:

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