Ford Service Department
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
The repair cost $673, and took all day to perform.
Real men fix their own cars. ;P Head skim, stick on the mill. Chassis corrosion? Get the MIG welder out. New clutch? Get the box out and change then thing! Maybe us English are just too manly for you wimpy Americans! ;P
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Erudite__Eric wrote:
Real men fix their own cars.
I used to, until the damn things became innundated with computers.
Erudite__Eric wrote:
Head skim, stick on the mill.
Cast iron heads rarely needed that (as opposed to aluminum heads which are prone to warping), unless you were trying to increase the compression ratio.
Erudite__Eric wrote:
Chassis corrosion? Get the MIG welder out.
I don't have the soldering gene, much less the welding gene.
Erudite__Eric wrote:
New clutch? Get the box out and change then thing!
Anyone can change a clutch.
Erudite__Eric wrote:
Maybe us English are just too manly for you wimpy Americans!
What they did was probably a lot of work because they had to remove the center console, the heater controls, the radio, the glove box, and a good portion of the under-dash wiring in order to even get to the thing that needed to be fixed. It would have taken me at least two days to do the same work - on a car I needed to go back and forth to work. If it was an old car (like my 65 Mustang) that I maintained as a hobby, it would have been no trouble to perform such a repair myself because I could have left it in the driveway while it was being worked on.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Fix Or Repair Daily
Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I'm looking forward to it; primarily because it should wipe that smug grin off Steve Jobs face.
CPallini wrote:
You cannot argue with agile people so just take the extreme approach and shoot him. :Smile:
Shelby Robertson wrote:
Fix
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Daily:) Thats the one I know. FIAT is Fix It Again Toni. Or Found In A Tip. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I love Fiats though, so looose, so fun, so eager. OK, not quick, but you can't thrash any car likw you can a Fiat. They love it! :)
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Once owned a Mazda. Never again. It would not run in the rain. Mazda could not find a problem, two independent repair shops could not find the problem. Started driving Toyota's until I hit a deer. Now I drive whatever used vehicle I can afford. FORD = Found On Road Dead - Note I actually like Ford's as my first car was a used '62 Falcon. You could not kill the thing. I swear it ran on four of the six cylinders. I put in new floor boards and seat belts and it was good to go.
A friend of mine had a 64 Falcon with a 260. His mom said she'd help finance a new motor when the current one blew up (we were planning on putting in a 351 Cleveland). One Saturday, she went shopping and me and Eddie (the friend) drained the oil and water out of the car, fired it up, and ran it at about 7000 RPM until the motor seized up. To cover our tracks, we put the used oil back into the crankcase, and the water back into the radiator, and waited for his mom to get home. By the time she came back from shopping, the car had cooled almost all the way down. Eddie made a big commotion about going somewhere and had his mom come out to bring him his wallet that he'd strategically left on the kitchen table. When she approached the car, he turned the key, expecting nothing to happen. Imagine our surprise when the car sounded as if it wasn't going to start, but then after a backfire and an impressive cloud of smoke through the exhaust, it fired up and ran like a freakin' top. The motor ran flawlessly for another year and-a-half before finally coming to a grisly end at the hands of a failed head gasket. I still wonder if Eddie didn't purposely loosen a couple of head bolts to cause the gasket to "leak". :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Moved.
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When you moved it, all the votes in the thread went missing.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Erudite__Eric wrote:
Real men fix their own cars.
I used to, until the damn things became innundated with computers.
Erudite__Eric wrote:
Head skim, stick on the mill.
Cast iron heads rarely needed that (as opposed to aluminum heads which are prone to warping), unless you were trying to increase the compression ratio.
Erudite__Eric wrote:
Chassis corrosion? Get the MIG welder out.
I don't have the soldering gene, much less the welding gene.
Erudite__Eric wrote:
New clutch? Get the box out and change then thing!
Anyone can change a clutch.
Erudite__Eric wrote:
Maybe us English are just too manly for you wimpy Americans!
What they did was probably a lot of work because they had to remove the center console, the heater controls, the radio, the glove box, and a good portion of the under-dash wiring in order to even get to the thing that needed to be fixed. It would have taken me at least two days to do the same work - on a car I needed to go back and forth to work. If it was an old car (like my 65 Mustang) that I maintained as a hobby, it would have been no trouble to perform such a repair myself because I could have left it in the driveway while it was being worked on.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I used to, until the damn things became innundated with computers.
I had a Renault 25, circa late 80s. Computer, relays yada yada yada. It diead at some traffic lights in Bristol. I pulled a spark plug, it was sparking. Hmm thinks I, fuel injection relays. Get a taxi to a local motor factors (parts supplier). Got a couple of relays, fitted them, crank it over, it runs. 2 hours, back on the road, another 2 hours I am home. Dont be scared of computers. They are just more crap to deal with, but they normally work. It is the sensors, the ancilleries that die.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
unless you were trying to increase the compression ratio.
Took 2.5 mm off a Fiat 1300 head once to run a static 11.5 : 1 co0mpression ratio. OKm it was a BIG cam. 300 duration, 180 degree overlap. It was a beast. Didnt do FA till it got to 4000 rpm. After that it lit up like a nuclear power station! Damn, did the thing rev! Twin Webber 40 down-draughts, DNCFs, 421 exhaust, ported head, cut valves. All the way to 9000. Great motors fiats, truly great.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
, much less the welding gene.
OK, I am actually a qualified welder. I used to work as one when I was young and dicking around. It is still second nature to me to weld stuff together.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
What they did was probably a lot of work because they had to remove the center console, the heater controls,
That is always a major PITA. To get to the heater unit you have to take out all the dash. And you never get it back straight. It realy is a pain. But it is clean. Sit in the seat, weild the screwdrivers, and out it pops. Not like a clutch. Creasy, dircty,, cold concrete. 50 kgs of metal above your head.... But real men eh? Nowt like it! :)
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When you moved it, all the votes in the thread went missing.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Oh dont tell me you are a vote obsessed CPeat? Holy crap, leave that to the accountant and the hungarian! :laugh:
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Or maybe I was merely pointing out what appears to be a bug (or at the very least, unexpected behavior).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
When you moved it, all the votes in the thread went missing.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Why did your post get moved? I didn't see anything controversial.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
A friend of mine had a 64 Falcon with a 260. His mom said she'd help finance a new motor when the current one blew up (we were planning on putting in a 351 Cleveland). One Saturday, she went shopping and me and Eddie (the friend) drained the oil and water out of the car, fired it up, and ran it at about 7000 RPM until the motor seized up. To cover our tracks, we put the used oil back into the crankcase, and the water back into the radiator, and waited for his mom to get home. By the time she came back from shopping, the car had cooled almost all the way down. Eddie made a big commotion about going somewhere and had his mom come out to bring him his wallet that he'd strategically left on the kitchen table. When she approached the car, he turned the key, expecting nothing to happen. Imagine our surprise when the car sounded as if it wasn't going to start, but then after a backfire and an impressive cloud of smoke through the exhaust, it fired up and ran like a freakin' top. The motor ran flawlessly for another year and-a-half before finally coming to a grisly end at the hands of a failed head gasket. I still wonder if Eddie didn't purposely loosen a couple of head bolts to cause the gasket to "leak". :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Trying to clean the oil ports, a garage replaced the oil with kerosene and ran the car for several minutes. Did not clean what they had hoped, but did not seem to hurt the car.
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When you moved it, all the votes in the thread went missing.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
all the votes in the thread went missing.
There are no votes in the back-end. That's why 'certain subjects' are 'popular' here.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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My A/C stopped working on Monday of last week. At the time of the failure, I heard a thumping sound under the dash, and presumed that a lever that served to control a ducted door had broken. On Thursday, I took it to the Ford dealer for repair. 0) It was in fact an "actuator" that needed to be replaced. 1) The repair cost $673, and took all day to perform. 2) On Friday morning, I started to drive to work. My new house is in a more rural area, andthere are deer EVERYWHERE. I flipped on my (self-installed) driving lights for better visibility. Nothing happend. The service tech had somehow disabled my driving lights. No problem, I'll fix them on Saturday. 3) On Saturday, I was getting ready to repair the driving lights, and found a piece of dark gray plastic laying on the passenger seat that (I think) came from the center console glovebox. At this point, I decided that the Ford dealer should fix the problems, because I didn't want to be blamed for breaking whatever it was that got broken while attempting to fix the driving lights that the dealer managed to disable. 4) This morning, before leaving for work, I decided to remove the towels from the back seat from when we were moving, and found a shop rag stuck between the back of the center console and the transmission tunnel. This was proof to me that the Ford dealer was indeed the responsible party. 5) I have an appointment at the service department so they can fixe the stuff they broken when they fixed my car, and this appointment will effectively absorb all of my free time on Veterans Day. 6) It seems as if Ford and AT&T share the same service tech retards. 7) Sometimes, you gotta say "FUCK!"
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
A friend of mine had a 64 Falcon with a 260. His mom said she'd help finance a new motor when the current one blew up (we were planning on putting in a 351 Cleveland). One Saturday, she went shopping and me and Eddie (the friend) drained the oil and water out of the car, fired it up, and ran it at about 7000 RPM until the motor seized up. To cover our tracks, we put the used oil back into the crankcase, and the water back into the radiator, and waited for his mom to get home. By the time she came back from shopping, the car had cooled almost all the way down. Eddie made a big commotion about going somewhere and had his mom come out to bring him his wallet that he'd strategically left on the kitchen table. When she approached the car, he turned the key, expecting nothing to happen. Imagine our surprise when the car sounded as if it wasn't going to start, but then after a backfire and an impressive cloud of smoke through the exhaust, it fired up and ran like a freakin' top. The motor ran flawlessly for another year and-a-half before finally coming to a grisly end at the hands of a failed head gasket. I still wonder if Eddie didn't purposely loosen a couple of head bolts to cause the gasket to "leak". :)
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
A friend of mine had a 64 Falcon with a 260.
My 64 Falcon has a 250 pre-crossflow... I suspect the US vs Aussie versions are slightly different...
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I still wonder if Eddie didn't purposely loosen a couple of head bolts to cause the gasket to "leak".
No, I think the poofters are just prone to leak. I have had the head done 4 times in 12 months, and the friggin thing is weeping again. Apparently they don't like Glycol based coolants... wish they told me that earlier!! ;-)
Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I used to, until the damn things became innundated with computers.
I had a Renault 25, circa late 80s. Computer, relays yada yada yada. It diead at some traffic lights in Bristol. I pulled a spark plug, it was sparking. Hmm thinks I, fuel injection relays. Get a taxi to a local motor factors (parts supplier). Got a couple of relays, fitted them, crank it over, it runs. 2 hours, back on the road, another 2 hours I am home. Dont be scared of computers. They are just more crap to deal with, but they normally work. It is the sensors, the ancilleries that die.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
unless you were trying to increase the compression ratio.
Took 2.5 mm off a Fiat 1300 head once to run a static 11.5 : 1 co0mpression ratio. OKm it was a BIG cam. 300 duration, 180 degree overlap. It was a beast. Didnt do FA till it got to 4000 rpm. After that it lit up like a nuclear power station! Damn, did the thing rev! Twin Webber 40 down-draughts, DNCFs, 421 exhaust, ported head, cut valves. All the way to 9000. Great motors fiats, truly great.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
, much less the welding gene.
OK, I am actually a qualified welder. I used to work as one when I was young and dicking around. It is still second nature to me to weld stuff together.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
What they did was probably a lot of work because they had to remove the center console, the heater controls,
That is always a major PITA. To get to the heater unit you have to take out all the dash. And you never get it back straight. It realy is a pain. But it is clean. Sit in the seat, weild the screwdrivers, and out it pops. Not like a clutch. Creasy, dircty,, cold concrete. 50 kgs of metal above your head.... But real men eh? Nowt like it! :)
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Erudite__Eric wrote:
Took 2.5 mm off a Fiat 1300 head once to run a static 11.5 : 1 co0mpression ratio.
The head on Booger Mobile had so much taken off it I had to put IN a 3mm shim to get the compression under control enough for it not to self destruct, even running 98 octane fuel (the highest you can get at the bowser here).
Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
A friend of mine had a 64 Falcon with a 260.
My 64 Falcon has a 250 pre-crossflow... I suspect the US vs Aussie versions are slightly different...
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
I still wonder if Eddie didn't purposely loosen a couple of head bolts to cause the gasket to "leak".
No, I think the poofters are just prone to leak. I have had the head done 4 times in 12 months, and the friggin thing is weeping again. Apparently they don't like Glycol based coolants... wish they told me that earlier!! ;-)
Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
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When you moved it, all the votes in the thread went missing.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997That is to be expected. No votes are allowed in the Back Room. Although, this seems like a curious place to move your thread... I could see the Soapbox, but the Back Room seems like a strange place for your thread.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
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That is to be expected. No votes are allowed in the Back Room. Although, this seems like a curious place to move your thread... I could see the Soapbox, but the Back Room seems like a strange place for your thread.
Somebody in an online forum wrote:
INTJs never really joke. They make a point. The joke is just a gift wrapper.
Probably Chris was expecting this thread to turn into US car industry against the late UK car industry/brands, but because people who have post in this thread have been surprisingly reasonable, polite and with a sense of humor this never happened. Surprise!
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Why did your post get moved? I didn't see anything controversial.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Because of the very last word of the original post...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997 -
Because of the very last word of the original post...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997oh. well, that sucks.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011) -
oh. well, that sucks.
Just along for the ride. "the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)Or as some might say "Fúck it!"
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done. Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Oh dont tell me you are a vote obsessed CPeat? Holy crap, leave that to the accountant and the hungarian! :laugh:
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i will search out a post of yours and give it a 5 - not because you want the points, but to express my pleasure at your post :laugh:
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