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My main gripe about Fords is that although they make fairly good engines, the gearboxes are not up to scratch. They are reliable enough but seem somehow under geared. Mind you, I am spoilt a bit, I have a history of Jaguars, MR2's and Opel Senators, so I kind of base automotive opinion on the upper range of the genre.
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Opel? Upper range? What did I miss?
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
MR2 and Jags too? Cheap Japanese sports car and the UKs favorite criminal gang car! Quality? He needs to drive a BMW if he wants a measure of what quality is. (OK, BMWs are totally souless and I hate driving them, but they are very well made)
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Erudite__Eric wrote:
Took 2.5 mm off a Fiat 1300 head once to run a static 11.5 : 1 co0mpression ratio.
The head on Booger Mobile had so much taken off it I had to put IN a 3mm shim to get the compression under control enough for it not to self destruct, even running 98 octane fuel (the highest you can get at the bowser here).
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Thats time for a new head. Runing a shim, two head gaskets and all that, its just waiting to fall apart. Either that or get the rotary dril attachment out and port the head. :) One of the big risks with extreme head skims is valves and pistons making contat. Add hairy cams into the mix and it gets worse.
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Thats time for a new head. Runing a shim, two head gaskets and all that, its just waiting to fall apart. Either that or get the rotary dril attachment out and port the head. :) One of the big risks with extreme head skims is valves and pistons making contat. Add hairy cams into the mix and it gets worse.
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Yeah, I have a spare head on the floor of the shed, but after spending so much money on this one, I'm keen to keep using it if it doesn't break...
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Yeah, I have a spare head on the floor of the shed, but after spending so much money on this one, I'm keen to keep using it if it doesn't break...
Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
If the head is alluminimum, and it ought to be these days, you can increase the combustion chamber size to reduce the compression. You can take the opportunity to improve its shape and flow characteristics too in order to get better performance. It is a bit of messing around, but could be fun to do. :)
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
- Sometimes, you gotta say "FUCK!"
Or buy a half decent car, preferably something European. Ford - Fix Or Repair Daily
_Josh_ wrote:
Or buy a half decent car, preferably something European.
like Mercedes, or Audi, or BMW, with the lowest reliability scores in the industry?
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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When you moved it, all the votes in the thread went missing.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997Since you can't vote in the backroom, removing the votes seems like the right thing to do.
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First On Race Day I've heard 'em all. I have 102k miles on the car (7.5 years old), and this is only the 2nd time it's cost me money for service. It doesn't rattle or squeak, the paint is still good on it, and I'm even still on the original brakes. I'd say that's a pretty good return on investment, and it's been paid off for three years, so go ahead and joke about it. My next car will be a Ford, too.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
My next car will be a Ford, too.
If you were to buy a Ford today, which one of the current models would you buy?
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
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If the head is alluminimum, and it ought to be these days, you can increase the combustion chamber size to reduce the compression. You can take the opportunity to improve its shape and flow characteristics too in order to get better performance. It is a bit of messing around, but could be fun to do. :)
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No, it's a cast iron head... The car is 47 years old, the engine about 40 years old... The issue prior to the shim was the rebuild caused too much compression - just couldn't keep the fuel octane high enough to stop detonation...
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No, it's a cast iron head... The car is 47 years old, the engine about 40 years old... The issue prior to the shim was the rebuild caused too much compression - just couldn't keep the fuel octane high enough to stop detonation...
Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
OK, thats a really old engine. Did you think of skimming the tops of the pistons down a bit? Mind you, if it is that old, then running with a shim and two head gaskets probably wont be a problem since it isnt going to be giving and kind of real performance.
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OK, thats a really old engine. Did you think of skimming the tops of the pistons down a bit? Mind you, if it is that old, then running with a shim and two head gaskets probably wont be a problem since it isnt going to be giving and kind of real performance.
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It's got 60thou oversized flat top pistons... the block has been decked and everything rebuilt - it's all new. The issue seems to purely be that the head has been shaved so many times that it's increased the compression... it had 210psi across the board... crazy big compression!! After putting in the 3mm shim (only one head gasket - the other side goes straight on the block) it dropped the compression by 40psi... It's all documented on the Booger Mobile blog if you want to see the story with lovely colour pictures...
Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
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It's got 60thou oversized flat top pistons... the block has been decked and everything rebuilt - it's all new. The issue seems to purely be that the head has been shaved so many times that it's increased the compression... it had 210psi across the board... crazy big compression!! After putting in the 3mm shim (only one head gasket - the other side goes straight on the block) it dropped the compression by 40psi... It's all documented on the Booger Mobile blog if you want to see the story with lovely colour pictures...
Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
_Damian S_ wrote:
210psi across the board
What, just turning over! :omg: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: Fuck me 140 psi is normal just cranking! :) Yeah, definitely need it lowering. Tell me, ever thought of just changing the engine for a more modern one? I am assuming its a big rear wheel drive motor, should be easy to fit a;lmost any other RWD motor, and even inprove the performance a bitm, and ecconomy and reliability by fitting a more modern one. Yeah, whats the link to the blog, sounds interesting. And I am surprised the shim sits straight on top of the block, I would imagine it would leak.
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First On Race Day I've heard 'em all. I have 102k miles on the car (7.5 years old), and this is only the 2nd time it's cost me money for service. It doesn't rattle or squeak, the paint is still good on it, and I'm even still on the original brakes. I'd say that's a pretty good return on investment, and it's been paid off for three years, so go ahead and joke about it. My next car will be a Ford, too.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997I've had Fords most of my life and had mostly good experiences from them. My current truck; 98 Ranger 3.0L 4X4 has 142K on it and I've had to put some money in it but overall (know on wood) it's been a good'un. Interestingly the only Chevy I had was an OLD station wagon back in 72 with 3 speed on the column. There was a problem where the linkage would occasionally stick and I would have to lift the hood and fart with the linkage until it unstuck. I should have took it as a sign but on my way to the church to get married it stuck, then when I got there I said "I do" and subsequently I got stuck.
This sig, like my mind intentionally left blank.
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I've had Fords most of my life and had mostly good experiences from them. My current truck; 98 Ranger 3.0L 4X4 has 142K on it and I've had to put some money in it but overall (know on wood) it's been a good'un. Interestingly the only Chevy I had was an OLD station wagon back in 72 with 3 speed on the column. There was a problem where the linkage would occasionally stick and I would have to lift the hood and fart with the linkage until it unstuck. I should have took it as a sign but on my way to the church to get married it stuck, then when I got there I said "I do" and subsequently I got stuck.
This sig, like my mind intentionally left blank.
Mike Hankey wrote:
subsequently I got stuck
Isn't that the effing truth.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun -
Mike Hankey wrote:
subsequently I got stuck
Isn't that the effing truth.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von BraunAs a prof. I had in college said; "Marriage is an honorable institution, but I never wanted to live in an institution", at least not any more.
This sig, like my mind intentionally left blank.
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_Damian S_ wrote:
210psi across the board
What, just turning over! :omg: :wtf: :omg: :wtf: Fuck me 140 psi is normal just cranking! :) Yeah, definitely need it lowering. Tell me, ever thought of just changing the engine for a more modern one? I am assuming its a big rear wheel drive motor, should be easy to fit a;lmost any other RWD motor, and even inprove the performance a bitm, and ecconomy and reliability by fitting a more modern one. Yeah, whats the link to the blog, sounds interesting. And I am surprised the shim sits straight on top of the block, I would imagine it would leak.
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The link to the blog is in my sig... but here it is again: Booger Mobile
Silence is golden... but duct tape is silver!! Booger Mobile - My bright green 1964 Ford Falcon - check out the blog here!! | If you feel generous - make a donation to Camp Quality!!
