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  • L Lost User

    And that again may also be wrong. Are the hours not enumerated 0 - 23, totally VB unfriendly?

    And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
    "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

    And I smiled and was happy
    And it came worse.

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    Estys
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    #6

    Yes, you and I (and probalby most people) would calculate that way. In the past I have once or twice seen the time expressed as 24:xx. Anyhoo, if you inspect the code you will see 11 AM's and 13 PM's. Cheers

    If you can read this, you don't have Papyrus installed

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    • E Estys

      Yes, you and I (and probalby most people) would calculate that way. In the past I have once or twice seen the time expressed as 24:xx. Anyhoo, if you inspect the code you will see 11 AM's and 13 PM's. Cheers

      If you can read this, you don't have Papyrus installed

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      Lost User
      wrote on last edited by
      #7

      Time and dates can be hell, even if you have a decent framework at your disposal. If you do such things on the fly: Good luck.

      And from the clouds a mighty voice spoke:
      "Smile and be happy, for it could come worse!"

      And I smiled and was happy
      And it came worse.

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      • V virang_21

        private string GetTime(string strShiftCode, string strTime)
        {
        string strReturn = "";

                    switch (strTime)
                    {
                        case "01":
                            strReturn = "AM";
                            break;
                        case "02":
                            strReturn = "AM";
                            break;
                        case "03":
                            strReturn = "AM";
                            break;
                        case "04":
                            strReturn = "AM";
                            break;
                        case "05":
                            strReturn = "AM";
                            break;
                        case "06":
                            strReturn = "AM";
                            break;
                        case "07":
                            strReturn = "AM";
                            break;
                        case "08":
                            strReturn = "AM";
                            break;
                        case "09":
                            strReturn = "AM";
                            break;
                        case "10":
                            strReturn = "AM";
                            break;
                        case "11":
                            strReturn = "AM";
                            break;
                        case "12":
                            strReturn = "PM";
                            break;
                        case "13":
                            strReturn = "PM";
                            break;
                        case "14":
                            strReturn = "PM";
                            break;
                        case "15":
                            strReturn = "PM";
                            break;
                        case "16":
                            strReturn = "PM";
                            break;
                        case "17":
                            strReturn = "PM";
                            break;
                        case "18":
                            strReturn = "PM";
                            break;
                        case "19":
                            strReturn = "PM
        
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        Robert Rohde
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        I agree that the original implementation is bad but beware that your fix could introduce some new issues. For example passing "2" will result in a different result than before ("AM" vs ""). This might even be Ok but passing "test" will generate an exception where the old implementation would just have returned an empty string. Robert

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        • R Robert Rohde

          I agree that the original implementation is bad but beware that your fix could introduce some new issues. For example passing "2" will result in a different result than before ("AM" vs ""). This might even be Ok but passing "test" will generate an exception where the old implementation would just have returned an empty string. Robert

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          virang_21
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          I am not changing the existing app at the moment .. my job is to add fixes to the app if it fails but it is working OK since last 2 years and used as production app in factory to control robots...One of the developer responsible for its maintenance is leaving so all his projects are coming to me...Just for this app my approach is going to be " Hey Why change it if it is working " ... and there are at least 5 developers worked on it at different times with their own way of coding like the Gem I found... :(

          Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Math is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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          • V virang_21

            private string GetTime(string strShiftCode, string strTime)
            {
            string strReturn = "";

                        switch (strTime)
                        {
                            case "01":
                                strReturn = "AM";
                                break;
                            case "02":
                                strReturn = "AM";
                                break;
                            case "03":
                                strReturn = "AM";
                                break;
                            case "04":
                                strReturn = "AM";
                                break;
                            case "05":
                                strReturn = "AM";
                                break;
                            case "06":
                                strReturn = "AM";
                                break;
                            case "07":
                                strReturn = "AM";
                                break;
                            case "08":
                                strReturn = "AM";
                                break;
                            case "09":
                                strReturn = "AM";
                                break;
                            case "10":
                                strReturn = "AM";
                                break;
                            case "11":
                                strReturn = "AM";
                                break;
                            case "12":
                                strReturn = "PM";
                                break;
                            case "13":
                                strReturn = "PM";
                                break;
                            case "14":
                                strReturn = "PM";
                                break;
                            case "15":
                                strReturn = "PM";
                                break;
                            case "16":
                                strReturn = "PM";
                                break;
                            case "17":
                                strReturn = "PM";
                                break;
                            case "18":
                                strReturn = "PM";
                                break;
                            case "19":
                                strReturn = "PM
            
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            BobJanova
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            #10

            That is quite spectacularly bad. - Unused parameter - Misnamed function (it is getting the hour part suffix, not Time) - Using strings to manage date/time info, and relying on the exact string (i.e. 2 != 02) - Incorrect coding or non-standard representation (01-24 instead of 00-23) - Duplicating framework functionality (myDateTime.ToString("hh tt")) - Repeat code in case blocks instead of a single test for all included conditions Anyone spot any more?

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            • B BobJanova

              That is quite spectacularly bad. - Unused parameter - Misnamed function (it is getting the hour part suffix, not Time) - Using strings to manage date/time info, and relying on the exact string (i.e. 2 != 02) - Incorrect coding or non-standard representation (01-24 instead of 00-23) - Duplicating framework functionality (myDateTime.ToString("hh tt")) - Repeat code in case blocks instead of a single test for all included conditions Anyone spot any more?

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              ii_noname_ii
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              I laughed out loud when I saw this one... Possibly the funniest function I've seen in the hall of shame.

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              • E Estys

                It's also wrong : "24" is "AM" :) Cheers

                If you can read this, you don't have Papyrus installed

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                Rajesh Anuhya
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                You never get "24" it's "00"

                my Tip/Tricks[^] | "Rajesh-Puli" now "Rajesh-Anuhya"

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                • R Rajesh Anuhya

                  You never get "24" it's "00"

                  my Tip/Tricks[^] | "Rajesh-Puli" now "Rajesh-Anuhya"

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                  Estys
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  That depends entirely on the input, we're not dealing with a real time format here. As said by others here, thse method is wrong in many respects. My comment denoted that there are 11 "AM" entries and 13 "PM" entries. So if "24" is input, the output should logically be "AM", not "PM". Cheers

                  If you can read this, you don't have Papyrus installed

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                  • V virang_21

                    private string GetTime(string strShiftCode, string strTime)
                    {
                    string strReturn = "";

                                switch (strTime)
                                {
                                    case "01":
                                        strReturn = "AM";
                                        break;
                                    case "02":
                                        strReturn = "AM";
                                        break;
                                    case "03":
                                        strReturn = "AM";
                                        break;
                                    case "04":
                                        strReturn = "AM";
                                        break;
                                    case "05":
                                        strReturn = "AM";
                                        break;
                                    case "06":
                                        strReturn = "AM";
                                        break;
                                    case "07":
                                        strReturn = "AM";
                                        break;
                                    case "08":
                                        strReturn = "AM";
                                        break;
                                    case "09":
                                        strReturn = "AM";
                                        break;
                                    case "10":
                                        strReturn = "AM";
                                        break;
                                    case "11":
                                        strReturn = "AM";
                                        break;
                                    case "12":
                                        strReturn = "PM";
                                        break;
                                    case "13":
                                        strReturn = "PM";
                                        break;
                                    case "14":
                                        strReturn = "PM";
                                        break;
                                    case "15":
                                        strReturn = "PM";
                                        break;
                                    case "16":
                                        strReturn = "PM";
                                        break;
                                    case "17":
                                        strReturn = "PM";
                                        break;
                                    case "18":
                                        strReturn = "PM";
                                        break;
                                    case "19":
                                        strReturn = "PM
                    
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                    0bx
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    This is why you should never work past 24.01h.

                    Giraffes are not real.

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                    • E Estys

                      It's also wrong : "24" is "AM" :) Cheers

                      If you can read this, you don't have Papyrus installed

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      #15

                      ISO 8601 allows 24:00 as the end of the day, so it would be PM; AM starts at 00:00 (not that ISO 8601 recognizes AM/PM of course).

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                      • V virang_21

                        private string GetTime(string strShiftCode, string strTime)
                        {
                        string strReturn = "";

                                    switch (strTime)
                                    {
                                        case "01":
                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                            break;
                                        case "02":
                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                            break;
                                        case "03":
                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                            break;
                                        case "04":
                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                            break;
                                        case "05":
                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                            break;
                                        case "06":
                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                            break;
                                        case "07":
                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                            break;
                                        case "08":
                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                            break;
                                        case "09":
                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                            break;
                                        case "10":
                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                            break;
                                        case "11":
                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                            break;
                                        case "12":
                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                            break;
                                        case "13":
                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                            break;
                                        case "14":
                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                            break;
                                        case "15":
                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                            break;
                                        case "16":
                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                            break;
                                        case "17":
                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                            break;
                                        case "18":
                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                            break;
                                        case "19":
                                            strReturn = "PM
                        
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                        edmurphy99
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                        #16

                        maybe the programmer was paid by the line

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                        • B BobJanova

                          That is quite spectacularly bad. - Unused parameter - Misnamed function (it is getting the hour part suffix, not Time) - Using strings to manage date/time info, and relying on the exact string (i.e. 2 != 02) - Incorrect coding or non-standard representation (01-24 instead of 00-23) - Duplicating framework functionality (myDateTime.ToString("hh tt")) - Repeat code in case blocks instead of a single test for all included conditions Anyone spot any more?

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                          Stefan_Lang
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          Some more: - no test to verify input value range or format (this would be neglectable if using correct types as you've already implied with your point 'Using strings') - using switch without default case - using hard coded strings for "AM" and "PM" - combining a yes/no test with an unrelated display functionality into one function (note that a test for AM and PM implies that a 24h format is being converted to a 12h format, and thus the test needs to be repeated in order to convert the number part!)

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                          • P PIEBALDconsult

                            ISO 8601 allows 24:00 as the end of the day, so it would be PM; AM starts at 00:00 (not that ISO 8601 recognizes AM/PM of course).

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                            Brady Kelly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            Do 24:00 and 00:00 occur at the same time then, just different notations?

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                            • B Brady Kelly

                              Do 24:00 and 00:00 occur at the same time then, just different notations?

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                              PIEBALDconsult
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              Yes, different notations for the same timepoint.

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                              • V virang_21

                                private string GetTime(string strShiftCode, string strTime)
                                {
                                string strReturn = "";

                                            switch (strTime)
                                            {
                                                case "01":
                                                    strReturn = "AM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "02":
                                                    strReturn = "AM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "03":
                                                    strReturn = "AM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "04":
                                                    strReturn = "AM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "05":
                                                    strReturn = "AM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "06":
                                                    strReturn = "AM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "07":
                                                    strReturn = "AM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "08":
                                                    strReturn = "AM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "09":
                                                    strReturn = "AM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "10":
                                                    strReturn = "AM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "11":
                                                    strReturn = "AM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "12":
                                                    strReturn = "PM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "13":
                                                    strReturn = "PM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "14":
                                                    strReturn = "PM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "15":
                                                    strReturn = "PM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "16":
                                                    strReturn = "PM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "17":
                                                    strReturn = "PM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "18":
                                                    strReturn = "PM";
                                                    break;
                                                case "19":
                                                    strReturn = "PM
                                
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                                Fabio Franco
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                                #20

                                Dude :doh: You got to be making that up!

                                "To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems" - Homer Simpson

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                                • V virang_21

                                  private string GetTime(string strShiftCode, string strTime)
                                  {
                                  string strReturn = "";

                                              switch (strTime)
                                              {
                                                  case "01":
                                                      strReturn = "AM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "02":
                                                      strReturn = "AM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "03":
                                                      strReturn = "AM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "04":
                                                      strReturn = "AM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "05":
                                                      strReturn = "AM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "06":
                                                      strReturn = "AM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "07":
                                                      strReturn = "AM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "08":
                                                      strReturn = "AM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "09":
                                                      strReturn = "AM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "10":
                                                      strReturn = "AM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "11":
                                                      strReturn = "AM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "12":
                                                      strReturn = "PM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "13":
                                                      strReturn = "PM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "14":
                                                      strReturn = "PM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "15":
                                                      strReturn = "PM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "16":
                                                      strReturn = "PM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "17":
                                                      strReturn = "PM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "18":
                                                      strReturn = "PM";
                                                      break;
                                                  case "19":
                                                      strReturn = "PM
                                  
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                                  Lost User
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #21

                                  The AM/PM suffix only makes sense on a 12-hour system, not a 24-hour clock. If you use an 24-hours based day, you already know whether the time is in the morning or evening. Otherwise, the 8 O'Clock needs the AM/PM suffix to discriminate between 8:00 (8 AM) and 20:00 (8 PM). It's a ridiculous format, and that mistake is as grave as the function is coded. It'd be best to use the date-format as specified in the users' settings, or to use a predefined format. Making up your own format requires owning a country.

                                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

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                                    The AM/PM suffix only makes sense on a 12-hour system, not a 24-hour clock. If you use an 24-hours based day, you already know whether the time is in the morning or evening. Otherwise, the 8 O'Clock needs the AM/PM suffix to discriminate between 8:00 (8 AM) and 20:00 (8 PM). It's a ridiculous format, and that mistake is as grave as the function is coded. It'd be best to use the date-format as specified in the users' settings, or to use a predefined format. Making up your own format requires owning a country.

                                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss:

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                                    Albert Holguin
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #22

                                    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                    The AM/PM suffix only makes sense on a 12-hour system

                                    true :thumbsup:

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                                    • B BobJanova

                                      That is quite spectacularly bad. - Unused parameter - Misnamed function (it is getting the hour part suffix, not Time) - Using strings to manage date/time info, and relying on the exact string (i.e. 2 != 02) - Incorrect coding or non-standard representation (01-24 instead of 00-23) - Duplicating framework functionality (myDateTime.ToString("hh tt")) - Repeat code in case blocks instead of a single test for all included conditions Anyone spot any more?

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                                      Lilith C
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #23

                                      BobJanova wrote:

                                      Anyone spot any more?

                                      No need to set a string to return from the function. A simple return "AM"; or return "PM"; would suffice.

                                      I'm not a programmer but I play one at the office

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                                        private string GetTime(string strShiftCode, string strTime)
                                        {
                                        string strReturn = "";

                                                    switch (strTime)
                                                    {
                                                        case "01":
                                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "02":
                                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "03":
                                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "04":
                                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "05":
                                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "06":
                                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "07":
                                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "08":
                                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "09":
                                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "10":
                                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "11":
                                                            strReturn = "AM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "12":
                                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "13":
                                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "14":
                                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "15":
                                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "16":
                                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "17":
                                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "18":
                                                            strReturn = "PM";
                                                            break;
                                                        case "19":
                                                            strReturn = "PM
                                        
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                                        Spectre_001
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #24

                                        Or... Assuming the string has only military time with no date:

                                        string strReturn = DateTime.Parse(DateTime.MinValue.ToString("MM/dd/yyyy ") + strTime).ToString("tt");

                                        If it has date and time:

                                        string strReturn = DateTime.Parse(strTime).ToString("tt");

                                        Kevin Rucker, Application Programmer QSS Group, Inc. United States Coast Guard OSC Kevin.D.Rucker@uscg.mil "Programming is an art form that fights back." -- Chad Hower

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                                        • V virang_21

                                          private string GetTime(string strShiftCode, string strTime)
                                          {
                                          string strReturn = "";

                                                      switch (strTime)
                                                      {
                                                          case "01":
                                                              strReturn = "AM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "02":
                                                              strReturn = "AM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "03":
                                                              strReturn = "AM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "04":
                                                              strReturn = "AM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "05":
                                                              strReturn = "AM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "06":
                                                              strReturn = "AM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "07":
                                                              strReturn = "AM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "08":
                                                              strReturn = "AM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "09":
                                                              strReturn = "AM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "10":
                                                              strReturn = "AM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "11":
                                                              strReturn = "AM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "12":
                                                              strReturn = "PM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "13":
                                                              strReturn = "PM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "14":
                                                              strReturn = "PM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "15":
                                                              strReturn = "PM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "16":
                                                              strReturn = "PM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "17":
                                                              strReturn = "PM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "18":
                                                              strReturn = "PM";
                                                              break;
                                                          case "19":
                                                              strReturn = "PM
                                          
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                                          Eugene Lepekhin
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #25

                                          your solution is different from original. What if the parameter string is not a number or number any other than one in switch? The original will return empty string while yours - eather throw or return PM instead.

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