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  • R Rob Graham

    That was not my goal.

    "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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    soap brain
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    Rob Graham wrote:

    That was not my goal.

    You could have left without shutting it down if you didn't like it any more, yet you didn't.

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      Apparently SB1 has gone the way of the Dodo. Vigorous debate was it's downfall.

      The Left - Taking shit for being right since before you were born. - driftglass

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      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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      I don't see a reason for closing it, but perhaps a different admin should be selected. On the other hand, as someone else suggested, the BackRoom seems a fine place. Why not have all the SB1.0 congregants congregate here?

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

        I don't see a reason for closing it, but perhaps a different admin should be selected. On the other hand, as someone else suggested, the BackRoom seems a fine place. Why not have all the SB1.0 congregants congregate here?

        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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        Majerus
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        ahmed zahmed wrote:

        a different admin should be selected

        Hell, I'll be admin. Does it really take any work?

        No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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          ahmed zahmed wrote:

          a different admin should be selected

          Hell, I'll be admin. Does it really take any work?

          No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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          I think not. Only admitting those who want in. Setting some sensible ground rules, or none at all.

          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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            ahmed zahmed wrote:

            a different admin should be selected

            Hell, I'll be admin. Does it really take any work?

            No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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            Lost User
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            Majerus wrote:

            Does it really take any work?

            None at all, unless you like the power, and inconvenience, that admin gives - namely the rights to edit/delete posts or even whole threads that offend, and to admit (or not) applications for membership.

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            • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

              I think not. Only admitting those who want in. Setting some sensible ground rules, or none at all.

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader." - John Quincy Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering” - Wernher von Braun

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              Majerus
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              ahmed zahmed wrote:

              Only admitting those who want in.

              That's the only problem I have with SB1. Not enough diversity in the membership - and I would bet - very little in the way of new membership since it first started.

              No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                There was an unfortunate "alleged trolling" post made yesterday.

                By me, about something Rob didn't like. His criterion for 'trolling'. He needs a dictionary.

                Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                This caused the SB1.0 administrator to give up

                It didn't cause him to give up: he was sitting there unblinkingly, his finger shakily hovering over the self-destruct button, just itching for a scapegoat to blame for closing the forum down.

                Richard A. Abbott wrote:

                So, those interested in resurrecting SB1.0, please indicate so by reply to this message.

                Sure.

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                Maybe he doesnt like gays? :)

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                • R Rob Graham

                  That was not my goal.

                  "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                  Lost User
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                  Let Ravel moderate the forum. Who cares who moderates it, it isnt so important just so long as there is a place where anything can be discussed without beingv censored like the rest of the very boring CP web site.

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                    Let Ravel moderate the forum. Who cares who moderates it, it isnt so important just so long as there is a place where anything can be discussed without beingv censored like the rest of the very boring CP web site.

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                    Rob Graham
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                    Nothing I can do about it. I threw my keys on the seat and closed the locked car door, so to speak. Any changes that need to be made to SB1 would have to be by either Oakman (he remains admin, and is still enabled) or by Chris.

                    "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                      Rob Graham wrote:

                      That was not my goal.

                      You could have left without shutting it down if you didn't like it any more, yet you didn't.

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                      Rob Graham
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                      You miss the point. Jon and I agreed to maintain a reasonable level of acceptability as a condition for creating the forum for us. Chris went a step further and made social forums a feature, but that did not relieve either of us from insuring no posts would bring discredit to CP. It was never an issue of what I liked or didn't like. I'm actually pretty tolerant of a wide range of opinion, for an Oakman Lite.

                      "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                      • R Rob Graham

                        Nothing I can do about it. I threw my keys on the seat and closed the locked car door, so to speak. Any changes that need to be made to SB1 would have to be by either Oakman (he remains admin, and is still enabled) or by Chris.

                        "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                        OK. I will have a chat with Jon later on and ask him to re-visit the SB1.0 forum and ask him if he would either resurrect the forum using his Admin rights or to appoint myself as temporary admin to enable me to re-open the forum.

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                          OK. I will have a chat with Jon later on and ask him to re-visit the SB1.0 forum and ask him if he would either resurrect the forum using his Admin rights or to appoint myself as temporary admin to enable me to re-open the forum.

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                          Rob Graham
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                          :) Sounds Like a plan. He will need to edit the forum from his old personal account, I think.

                          "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                            ahmed zahmed wrote:

                            Only admitting those who want in.

                            That's the only problem I have with SB1. Not enough diversity in the membership - and I would bet - very little in the way of new membership since it first started.

                            No eternal reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn. - Jim Morrison

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                            Rob Graham
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                            Majerus wrote:

                            ery little in the way of new membership since it first started.

                            It has, supposedly, over 100 members. Most rarely participate, however. Kinda CP in a microcosm, I guess.

                            "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                              Majerus wrote:

                              Vigorous debate was it's downfall

                              Not quite. There was an unfortunate "alleged trolling" post made yesterday. This caused the SB1.0 administrator to give up and request CP to shut the forum. However, there is, of course, the possible chance that Chris Maunder may allow the SB1.0 to be resurrected if enough (former) SB1.0 members request him to do so. So, if you would like the SB1.0 to be once again a functioning forum, the former members need to decide who shall administer that forum and write to Chris Maunder with requests to re-open it. That said, SB1.0 was a private members social forum, and as far as I am aware, private members social forums may be created at CP at any time. So, those interested in resurrecting SB1.0, please indicate so by reply to this message.

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                              Paul Conrad
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                              Yes, bring back SB1.0 :)

                              "The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon "Not only do you continue to babble nonsense, you can't even correctly remember the nonsense you babbled just minutes ago." - Rob Graham

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                                On the admin page for SB1.0 does there exist option to cancel the "Shut Down" instruction?

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                                Rob Graham
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                                It's a checkbox...labeled "close group". I reached it by using the "edit group" icon that appeared as a white rectangle above the post region on the left. I presume Jon was able to fix things, since i am no longer a member of that social group, and I had not ejected myself, just "retired" as admin. That seems to have changed since I replied to Jon's email.

                                "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                                  OK. I will have a chat with Jon later on and ask him to re-visit the SB1.0 forum and ask him if he would either resurrect the forum using his Admin rights or to appoint myself as temporary admin to enable me to re-open the forum.

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                                  Rob Graham
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                                  I gather things worked out, since I am not a member of SB1 since a a relatively short while ago (since replying to Jon's email).

                                  "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                                  • R Rob Graham

                                    I gather things worked out, since I am not a member of SB1 since a a relatively short while ago (since replying to Jon's email).

                                    "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                                    Lost User
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                                    At the moment, no change. However, Jon has offered to email Chris Maunder requesting to make me Administrator, but, as I said, nothing to report just yet. I will update this message in the morning if anything to report. Cheers Rob, and of course Jon, for your help.

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                                      At the moment, no change. However, Jon has offered to email Chris Maunder requesting to make me Administrator, but, as I said, nothing to report just yet. I will update this message in the morning if anything to report. Cheers Rob, and of course Jon, for your help.

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                                      Rob Graham
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                                      Sorry I closed it son thoroughly. If you wish, I will also email Chris...

                                      "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                                      • R Rob Graham

                                        Sorry I closed it son thoroughly. If you wish, I will also email Chris...

                                        "People who bite the hand that feeds them usually lick the boot that kicks them." Eric Hoffer "The failure mode of 'clever' is 'asshole'" John Scalzi "Only buzzards feed on their friends" Patrick Dorinson

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                                        Rob Graham wrote:

                                        If you wish, I will also email Chris...

                                        Thank you Rob. [added] As at 9am 14 Feb, no change to forum status. I also have emailed Mr. Maunder requesting the forum's reinstatement.

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                                          Apparently SB1 has gone the way of the Dodo. Vigorous debate was it's downfall.

                                          The Left - Taking shit for being right since before you were born. - driftglass

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                                          soap brain
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                                          It's back up.

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