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  • T thedavejay

    Yeah, its like climbing Rapunzel's tower to find out that she is actually a he.

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    Gary Wheeler
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    In this case, she is actually a he, and he's an inflatable doll.

    Software Zen: delete this;

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    • A Adam Tibi

      This looks to me like a unit testing attempt, similar to the recommendations in "The Art of Unit Testing" : featureundertest_when_expectation Usually these methods are long, but they are supposed to be read like a sentence.

      Make it simple, as simple as possible, but not simpler.

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      Lost User
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      Nice ans well, but I expect some rcommendation any time now that will tell us to wear feathers on our heads and chant while dancing around the computer.

      At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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      • T thedavejay

        public void SettingDeviceList_ReAddingAPreviouslyDeletedDevice_MustAddDevicesToRuleDevicesWithIsDeletedFalseAndIsIncludedTrue()
        {
        return;
        }

        I feel like crying. X|

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        R_L_H
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        You guys have obviously never written any objective C. The following method signature (without defined parameter names) is a legit initializer method from the Apple code base for the NSBitmapImageRep[^][] object. God only knows what some users have made.

        initWithBitmapDataPlanes:pixelsWide:pixelsHigh:bitsPerSample:samplesPerPixel:hasAlpha:isPlanar:colorSpaceName:bitmapFormat:bytesPerRow:bitsPerPixel:

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        • G Gary Wheeler

          In this case, she is actually a he, and he's an inflatable doll.

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          BillW33
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          :confused: :wtf: X| :laugh:

          Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.

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          • T thedavejay

            public void SettingDeviceList_ReAddingAPreviouslyDeletedDevice_MustAddDevicesToRuleDevicesWithIsDeletedFalseAndIsIncludedTrue()
            {
            return;
            }

            I feel like crying. X|

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            Michael Kingsford Gray
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            What is actually so bad about this? The length only? If yes, then WTF? You are kvetching about length? Why? If not, then fill it in here: __________________________

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            • M Michael Kingsford Gray

              What is actually so bad about this? The length only? If yes, then WTF? You are kvetching about length? Why? If not, then fill it in here: __________________________

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              BobJanova
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              The length is a WTF because it makes it unreadable.

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              • B BobJanova

                The length is a WTF because it makes it unreadable.

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                Michael Kingsford Gray
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                Eh? Unreadable in what sense? I can read quite clearly, as well as understand the intent. Long names are inherently self-documenting. I sincerely do NOT understand your response. To me, tersely abbreviated names are not only unreadable, but quite unnecessary in this day-and-age of auto-completion.

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                • T thedavejay

                  public void SettingDeviceList_ReAddingAPreviouslyDeletedDevice_MustAddDevicesToRuleDevicesWithIsDeletedFalseAndIsIncludedTrue()
                  {
                  return;
                  }

                  I feel like crying. X|

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                  Gary Wheeler
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                  I've used support software from a certain hardware manufacturer. I think their software was written by an intern. All of the names are of the form:

                  #define ACR1_ACR2_ACR3_..._ACRN 0x........

                  where each ACR_i_ is a three or four letter acronym for a hardware signal or state. Some of the names are well over 100 characters long, and completely unreadable.

                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                  • M Michael Kingsford Gray

                    Eh? Unreadable in what sense? I can read quite clearly, as well as understand the intent. Long names are inherently self-documenting. I sincerely do NOT understand your response. To me, tersely abbreviated names are not only unreadable, but quite unnecessary in this day-and-age of auto-completion.

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                    Lost User
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                    Considering the most common coding convention argues for 80-character lines, and given that only the method name contains 113 characters I would say yes, it is very unreadable.

                    Saludos!! ____Juan

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                    • M Michael Kingsford Gray

                      Eh? Unreadable in what sense? I can read quite clearly, as well as understand the intent. Long names are inherently self-documenting. I sincerely do NOT understand your response. To me, tersely abbreviated names are not only unreadable, but quite unnecessary in this day-and-age of auto-completion.

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                      BobJanova
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                      The same reason that writing a 4 page essay in a comment in the lounge is unreadable. You have to parse a lot of text before you can begin to understand what the purpose is. Just get to the point, which I'm sure can be expressed in fewer than 15 words or however many are in that title.

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                      • T thedavejay

                        Yeah, its like climbing Rapunzel's tower to find out that she is actually a he.

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                        wizardzz
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                        Or finding out the hair you climbed was not the type of hair you anticipated.

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                        • M Michael Kingsford Gray

                          Eh? Unreadable in what sense? I can read quite clearly, as well as understand the intent. Long names are inherently self-documenting. I sincerely do NOT understand your response. To me, tersely abbreviated names are not only unreadable, but quite unnecessary in this day-and-age of auto-completion.

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                          bkebamc
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                          Lolz. Apparently self-documenting code means that we never have to write commentary? Has there been a formal proof that camel case and embedded separators cover the full semantics of natural language?

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                          • R R_L_H

                            You guys have obviously never written any objective C. The following method signature (without defined parameter names) is a legit initializer method from the Apple code base for the NSBitmapImageRep[^][] object. God only knows what some users have made.

                            initWithBitmapDataPlanes:pixelsWide:pixelsHigh:bitsPerSample:samplesPerPixel:hasAlpha:isPlanar:colorSpaceName:bitmapFormat:bytesPerRow:bitsPerPixel:

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                            msvbdev
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                            X| and that is why I prefer ISO standard C :)

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                            • M Michael Kingsford Gray

                              Eh? Unreadable in what sense? I can read quite clearly, as well as understand the intent. Long names are inherently self-documenting. I sincerely do NOT understand your response. To me, tersely abbreviated names are not only unreadable, but quite unnecessary in this day-and-age of auto-completion.

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                              AspDotNetDev
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                              In college, did you title your essays using the entire contents of the essays, or did you use something shorter? Longer variables take longer for humans to read, they can lead to extra horizontal scrolling (the Devil!), they take longer to type, and they are not necessary.

                              INSWSAEJETGTMA...

                              Im_Not_Saying_We_Should_Abbreviate_Excessively_Just_Enough_To_Get_The_Meaning_Across...

                              // If you want to explain something more, put it in a comment above the variable declaration so it doesn't follow the variable around.
                              abbreviateAppropriately...

                              Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                In college, did you title your essays using the entire contents of the essays, or did you use something shorter? Longer variables take longer for humans to read, they can lead to extra horizontal scrolling (the Devil!), they take longer to type, and they are not necessary.

                                INSWSAEJETGTMA...

                                Im_Not_Saying_We_Should_Abbreviate_Excessively_Just_Enough_To_Get_The_Meaning_Across...

                                // If you want to explain something more, put it in a comment above the variable declaration so it doesn't follow the variable around.
                                abbreviateAppropriately...

                                Thou mewling ill-breeding pignut!

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                                PIEBALDconsult
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                                /** <summary>That should go here.</summary> */
                                [Description("Or perhaps here.")]
                                abbreviateAppropriately...

                                so it does follow the method around and is more localizable.

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                                • T thedavejay

                                  public void SettingDeviceList_ReAddingAPreviouslyDeletedDevice_MustAddDevicesToRuleDevicesWithIsDeletedFalseAndIsIncludedTrue()
                                  {
                                  return;
                                  }

                                  I feel like crying. X|

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                                  musicdev
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                                  Wow. Hurts just looking at it.

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                                  • T thedavejay

                                    public void SettingDeviceList_ReAddingAPreviouslyDeletedDevice_MustAddDevicesToRuleDevicesWithIsDeletedFalseAndIsIncludedTrue()
                                    {
                                    return;
                                    }

                                    I feel like crying. X|

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                                    Mohibur Rashid
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                                    I thought I am the naming jerk :laugh:

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                                    • E egenis

                                      Look on the bright side - it's broken up into easily manageable chunks by _'s Imagine it was not...

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                                      KP Lee
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                                      egenis wrote:

                                      Imagine it was not...

                                      Using all lowercase.

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Nice ans well, but I expect some rcommendation any time now that will tell us to wear feathers on our heads and chant while dancing around the computer.

                                        At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity

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                                        KP Lee
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                                        The chant would be "Owe waa taw goo sigh M"? (Start slowly, pick up speed, enlightenment eventually comes.)

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                                        • M Michael Kingsford Gray

                                          What is actually so bad about this? The length only? If yes, then WTF? You are kvetching about length? Why? If not, then fill it in here: __________________________

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                                          Keith Barrow
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                                          SettingDeviceList_ReAddingAPreviouslyDeletedDevice_MustAddDevicesToRuleDevicesWithIsDeletedFalseAndIsIncludedTrue You genuiely think this is readable? I got bored half way through, though it is 1 am where I am.

                                          Michael K Gray wrote:

                                          If not, then fill it in here:

                                          Well in probability this is several methods and attributes:

                                          public void ReAddRequiredDeletedDevice()
                                          {
                                          //OK this if is a punt, but if gives the idea
                                          if(!Device.IsDeleted && Device.IsIncluded)
                                          {
                                          //Add or whatever
                                          }
                                          }

                                          public void SetDeviceList()
                                          {
                                          ReAddRequiredDeletedDevice();
                                          return; //Hey the one useful line of code from the OP!
                                          }

                                          Sort of a cross between Lawrence of Arabia and Dilbert.[^]
                                          -Or-
                                          A Dead ringer for Kate Winslett[^]

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