Need advice on printing reports from Visual Basic
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Murray, I put a form in my project, added a button, and put the following code behind it's click event.
Public Class Form1
Private Sub Button1_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles Button1.Click
Printer.FontBold = True
printer.print("Hello World")
Printer.Print()
End Sub
End ClassIt doesn't like the printer statements. It says it's undeclared. I must need a reference, an imports statement, or a declaration of some sort. Any ideas? jack
As I hope I mentioned I am a VB6 expert who has assiduously avoided the .NET realm so far. (I manage 435,000 lines of code that I do not want to convert). Although that will have to change. I would have to assume that the printer object (if available) is defined in the System namespace. Did you try system.printer.print "Hello World" If that doesn't work then I'm sorry but I'm out of ideas.
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As I hope I mentioned I am a VB6 expert who has assiduously avoided the .NET realm so far. (I manage 435,000 lines of code that I do not want to convert). Although that will have to change. I would have to assume that the printer object (if available) is defined in the System namespace. Did you try system.printer.print "Hello World" If that doesn't work then I'm sorry but I'm out of ideas.
Thanks Murray. Unfortunately it did not work. It said printer was not a member of system. It's too bad it doesn't work as what you explained to me was something that I could understood and could work with. It is so simple; you want to print something you say 'print something'. Why they had to go and make things so much more complicated; I dunno. 435,000 lines of code; wow! I would not want your job. Good luck on it and when conversion time comes; good luck on that. Thanks for your help Murray. I'm going to keep working on this and if I learn anything interesting I'll let you know. Jack
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Thanks Murray. Unfortunately it did not work. It said printer was not a member of system. It's too bad it doesn't work as what you explained to me was something that I could understood and could work with. It is so simple; you want to print something you say 'print something'. Why they had to go and make things so much more complicated; I dunno. 435,000 lines of code; wow! I would not want your job. Good luck on it and when conversion time comes; good luck on that. Thanks for your help Murray. I'm going to keep working on this and if I learn anything interesting I'll let you know. Jack
Any time, Jack. You know there is another version of Basic that is procedural and hence much easier to use. It does have statements as easy as print something. I used it to produce 4 commercial products for 10 years. It is called PowerBasic. www.powerbasic.com I only stopped using it when I was forced to remake our products for Windows. It didn't have any GUI support at all in the beginning although it does now. It also has a huge user community with tons of free code. Happy Memorial Day.
Murray
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Any time, Jack. You know there is another version of Basic that is procedural and hence much easier to use. It does have statements as easy as print something. I used it to produce 4 commercial products for 10 years. It is called PowerBasic. www.powerbasic.com I only stopped using it when I was forced to remake our products for Windows. It didn't have any GUI support at all in the beginning although it does now. It also has a huge user community with tons of free code. Happy Memorial Day.
Murray
Murray, thanks for this info and I'll definitely check it out. I found a free e-book, see link below, on printing in VB 2010. I've read thru it and grabbed some code snippets and I think I'm going to be able to make it work for me. Sometime when you're feeling really masochistic you should check it out. Microsoft makes things much harder than they need to be. For example: Instead of print "sometext" it is e.graphics.drawstring("sometext") I really don't care what it is just as long as I know what it is and I can use it. And, I have tried the e.graphics.d... and it works. MS is using VB graphics for printing. Okay, I guess I can get accustomed to that. So, I'll stumble along this way and I'll also check out PowerTools. This is good to know. Thanks. Jack http://www.filemount.com/2011/01/printing-with-visual-basic-2010/
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Murray, thanks for this info and I'll definitely check it out. I found a free e-book, see link below, on printing in VB 2010. I've read thru it and grabbed some code snippets and I think I'm going to be able to make it work for me. Sometime when you're feeling really masochistic you should check it out. Microsoft makes things much harder than they need to be. For example: Instead of print "sometext" it is e.graphics.drawstring("sometext") I really don't care what it is just as long as I know what it is and I can use it. And, I have tried the e.graphics.d... and it works. MS is using VB graphics for printing. Okay, I guess I can get accustomed to that. So, I'll stumble along this way and I'll also check out PowerTools. This is good to know. Thanks. Jack http://www.filemount.com/2011/01/printing-with-visual-basic-2010/
Hi Jack, Thanks for the link to the ebook. Actually the process is pretty much as I described for VB 6, just with a lot more typing. (When I was in school we used to say that COBOL was a horrible language to code in because of all the keyboarding involved. COBOL is a walk in the park compared to VB 10, even with intellisense.) My products do payroll everywhere there is a US payroll and other government forms so you can just imagine the amount of reports we have to print. The page you sent did have links to a couple of books you might find helpful.
Murray
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Hi Jack, Thanks for the link to the ebook. Actually the process is pretty much as I described for VB 6, just with a lot more typing. (When I was in school we used to say that COBOL was a horrible language to code in because of all the keyboarding involved. COBOL is a walk in the park compared to VB 10, even with intellisense.) My products do payroll everywhere there is a US payroll and other government forms so you can just imagine the amount of reports we have to print. The page you sent did have links to a couple of books you might find helpful.
Murray
Hi Murray, I'm beginning to like this printing capability. I'm not very good at it yet but I do see the potential for good reports. It takes a lot of code and but most of it is understandable. Crystal Reports is an attempt to greatly simplify things. And although this sounds crazy they've made it so damn simple I can't understand it. I just have so much trouble with CR. With this language you can use simple VB constructs like 'if then else' and in CR they do have 'if then else' but it's really different. I would rather spend 3 days working on one report than even 10 minutes with CR. I know that after spending 3 days with VB I would have something; 3 days with CR and all I would end up with is a huge headache. Someday I'm afraid you're gonna have to upgrade from VB 6. I hope not though. No one would want to do all the conversion work on your codebase. Here's a business opportunity. Write a program to do just the report conversions. I say 'just' as if this would be trivial; it certainly would not be. But, if you, or one of your co-workers could do it it would be worth something. Maybe it's already been done; I don't know. That's fabulous that your products do work for the government. That is HUGE!! If a company could have only one customer that is the one they should want; the US Govt. This is very impressive. I'm a retired Fed. I was a software developer there for 30 years. I worked on administrative systems to include accounting systems. I had co-workers that worked on payroll although I never did. I know some of the complexities though and I know there are many. Keep the faith Murray. I'm gonna get back to work on these reports. In this methodology one has to line breaks, page breaks, etc. I like detail work though so I'm a happy camper. Thanks Murray and happy Wed. to you. jack
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Hi Murray, I'm beginning to like this printing capability. I'm not very good at it yet but I do see the potential for good reports. It takes a lot of code and but most of it is understandable. Crystal Reports is an attempt to greatly simplify things. And although this sounds crazy they've made it so damn simple I can't understand it. I just have so much trouble with CR. With this language you can use simple VB constructs like 'if then else' and in CR they do have 'if then else' but it's really different. I would rather spend 3 days working on one report than even 10 minutes with CR. I know that after spending 3 days with VB I would have something; 3 days with CR and all I would end up with is a huge headache. Someday I'm afraid you're gonna have to upgrade from VB 6. I hope not though. No one would want to do all the conversion work on your codebase. Here's a business opportunity. Write a program to do just the report conversions. I say 'just' as if this would be trivial; it certainly would not be. But, if you, or one of your co-workers could do it it would be worth something. Maybe it's already been done; I don't know. That's fabulous that your products do work for the government. That is HUGE!! If a company could have only one customer that is the one they should want; the US Govt. This is very impressive. I'm a retired Fed. I was a software developer there for 30 years. I worked on administrative systems to include accounting systems. I had co-workers that worked on payroll although I never did. I know some of the complexities though and I know there are many. Keep the faith Murray. I'm gonna get back to work on these reports. In this methodology one has to line breaks, page breaks, etc. I like detail work though so I'm a happy camper. Thanks Murray and happy Wed. to you. jack
Hi Jack, You're so right about the detail work that it is capable of. I looked @ it some more and it is really nothing more than an extremely complicated version of what I use in VB 6. The abilities for placements, fonts, kerning, leading and so on are excellent. They do require attention to detail but, what non-trivial programming doesn't? Attention to detail is what separates the hacks from the professionals. What language did you code in?
Murray
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Hi Jack, You're so right about the detail work that it is capable of. I looked @ it some more and it is really nothing more than an extremely complicated version of what I use in VB 6. The abilities for placements, fonts, kerning, leading and so on are excellent. They do require attention to detail but, what non-trivial programming doesn't? Attention to detail is what separates the hacks from the professionals. What language did you code in?
Murray
Murray, I did some COBOL back in the day but the last 16 years of my career were spent with a product I'll bet you've never heard of. Not many have. It's Model 204. It has been around for 40 years and it is so powerful. It's a DBMS with it's own proprietary language. It's for mainframe IBM computers (if they still exist) with very large databases. It really hums. Here's a link. Spend a minute or so checking it out. http://sirius-software.com/m204.html[^]
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Murray, I did some COBOL back in the day but the last 16 years of my career were spent with a product I'll bet you've never heard of. Not many have. It's Model 204. It has been around for 40 years and it is so powerful. It's a DBMS with it's own proprietary language. It's for mainframe IBM computers (if they still exist) with very large databases. It really hums. Here's a link. Spend a minute or so checking it out. http://sirius-software.com/m204.html[^]
You're right - I've never heard of it. I used COBOL and FORTRAN on IBM mainframes. Then again I've never worked on government-scale databases. No wonder my friends who code for the IRS moan when Congress enacts a payroll change and gives us 30 days to implement it. I must assume that mainframes still exist although I saw a Cray supercomputer in a box about the size of a PC only twice as wide. Microsoft was offering it as a prize.
Murray
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You're right - I've never heard of it. I used COBOL and FORTRAN on IBM mainframes. Then again I've never worked on government-scale databases. No wonder my friends who code for the IRS moan when Congress enacts a payroll change and gives us 30 days to implement it. I must assume that mainframes still exist although I saw a Cray supercomputer in a box about the size of a PC only twice as wide. Microsoft was offering it as a prize.
Murray
It's been long years since I've even heard of a Cray computer. I wonder if they still exist. At one time they were considered top of the line. And yes, you could probably put in a box of Cracker Jacks now. It would fit. Happy Thur Murray. jack