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  • P Paul Watson

    Is the simple life a romantic dalliance these days? Am I a unhinged - from reality- nut when I wish for the opportunity to chuck in the corporate towel, find a beach side cottage and spend the remainder of my days living a simple, honest life? The more money I make, the less satisfying I find it. Even my short term sacrifice for long term peace idea seems not worth it at times. Anyone here live a simple life, just popping into CP every now and then, when the wind blows and you can't rather go down to paddle in the ocean?

    Paul Watson
    Bluegrass
    Cape Town, South Africa

    Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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    Paul Watson wrote: Am I a unhinged - from reality- nut when I wish for the opportunity to chuck in the corporate towel, find a beach side cottage and spend the remainder of my days living a simple, honest life? I think you're not. I'm also dreaming of that, not yet having ever "really" worked, doing the same things day for day making one think there's been s.th. gone wrong in life ( uhm ... seems like I shouldn't keep awake that long every evening :~ there's too much shit to think about). And surely there's another 50% of our population wishing the same - only difference could be the way simple living should look like( corresponding to our weather finding a nice snowy hill would be much easier than looking for a beach, then let's replace towel by ski ... now it sounds like a perfect winter dream;) ) Paul Watson wrote: Anyone here live a simple life, just popping into CP every now and then, when the wind blows and you can't rather go down to paddle in the ocean? I remember a time, when I was 4 or 5, when life was really simple. No obligations, sleeping long, playing around the whole day. But now it seems like I've to wait some 40 years until life will be similar again ... then I'm retired, and hope my body will still be able to fulfill my dreams;).

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      That will be fantastic when Brend and I have lived a long and fulfilled life together, put kids through varsity, got grey and wrinkled and hopefully have no arthritis! :-D For now however, I want it all! It's important to remember that despite needing financial security for the future (yeah, really sucks) what we earn is a means to an end - a way of earning the things we enjoy. For me at the moment, that means putting my cash to travel. The dillema - the job scarcity means I can't just pack up and leave on sabatical, so I am now limited by leave :( . Still, we can't have everything! Hopefully in 3 years time we will live, like you, in the Cape, and my MacSki will be relocating with me, yes :) I guess the dream would be to have David Attenbrough's job hey? ;)


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      Megan Forbes wrote: I guess the dream would be to have David Attenbrough's job hey? LOL, maybe. Bet he has tribulations in his life though. Bad camera men, doff editors, corporate politics filtering down trying to tell him how to shoot a scene, what to say, what to wear. I am thinking more of Huckleberry Finn. Just the river, a raft and me. Translate that to my dream and it is the sea shore, a cosy hut and me. :) Megan Forbes wrote: I want it all! It's important to remember that despite needing financial security for the future (yeah, really sucks) what we earn is a means to an end - a way of earning the things we enjoy. For me at the moment, that means putting my cash to travel For you it is different and probably not attainable anymore. You are married, you have committed and taken on the burden of thinking Us not Me. For me, it is just me though. I also want everything, but maybe this corporate way is not the way to that that best fits me. To be perfectly honest I want to go home, pack some clothes into my rucksack, get some cash for food, get my camera, put on my walking shoes and start heading up north. Sleeping where I can, travelling on trucks, trains, taxis, however. You know the story, the lone (wo)man travelling all their life with just what is on their back. Living in Cape Town is nice, beautiful place. But it might as well be London or New York or anywhere what with having to hold down a job, pay the rent, pay the car, pay the electricity, make nice with capitalism all the time. Working for the weekend is not enough I guess is what I am saying.

      Paul Watson
      Bluegrass
      Cape Town, South Africa

      Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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        Paul Watson wrote: Am I a unhinged - from reality- nut when I wish for the opportunity to chuck in the corporate towel, find a beach side cottage and spend the remainder of my days living a simple, honest life? I think you're not. I'm also dreaming of that, not yet having ever "really" worked, doing the same things day for day making one think there's been s.th. gone wrong in life ( uhm ... seems like I shouldn't keep awake that long every evening :~ there's too much shit to think about). And surely there's another 50% of our population wishing the same - only difference could be the way simple living should look like( corresponding to our weather finding a nice snowy hill would be much easier than looking for a beach, then let's replace towel by ski ... now it sounds like a perfect winter dream;) ) Paul Watson wrote: Anyone here live a simple life, just popping into CP every now and then, when the wind blows and you can't rather go down to paddle in the ocean? I remember a time, when I was 4 or 5, when life was really simple. No obligations, sleeping long, playing around the whole day. But now it seems like I've to wait some 40 years until life will be similar again ... then I'm retired, and hope my body will still be able to fulfill my dreams;).

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        Schlaubi wrote: remember a time, when I was 4 or 5, when life was really simple. No obligations, sleeping long, playing around the whole day People often hark back to their childhood and how great it was. But they forget the two people, mom and dad, who had to work 9 to 5 for 40 years to provide that simple, no obligations life for you. My simple life dream does not include being a burden on anyone :) Schlaubi wrote: now it sounds like a perfect winter dream Just like there are visual and audible people, there are summer and winter people. I am a summer person for sure :)

        Paul Watson
        Bluegrass
        Cape Town, South Africa

        Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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          Is the simple life a romantic dalliance these days? Am I a unhinged - from reality- nut when I wish for the opportunity to chuck in the corporate towel, find a beach side cottage and spend the remainder of my days living a simple, honest life? The more money I make, the less satisfying I find it. Even my short term sacrifice for long term peace idea seems not worth it at times. Anyone here live a simple life, just popping into CP every now and then, when the wind blows and you can't rather go down to paddle in the ocean?

          Paul Watson
          Bluegrass
          Cape Town, South Africa

          Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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          Hi mate, I think you need a holiday, I remember you chatting about socks that didn't match and stuff a few months ago. Paul Watson wrote: Am I a unhinged - from reality- nut when I wish for the opportunity to chuck in the corporate towel, find a beach side cottage and spend the remainder of my days living a simple, honest life? Nah, just a real person. I think we all feel like that sometimes. I'm lucky, working for a little company who don't pile on the pressure, but I've been there too. I think you should take some time off and think about what you really want. I know a lady who gave up 'the day job' and moved to a tiny Scottish island, she sells photographs in the summer to pay the bills. And pleases her self most of the time. But if you do that you'll have to give up the modern expensive luxuries. I have to say that people who do don't seem to regret it. For me it comes down to one question realy ... can I give up the 'Ben & Jerrys'??? And of course the answer is no! :laugh: As they say round here, "don't let the b*st*rds grind you down' :) Ali

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            I understand what you are talking about. There was a period of my life where I went through a similar process. Still, I look at people in the corporate world running around thinking that they actually matter and are irreplaceable and I laugh. Life is too short to waste, and we don't really get a second try at it. I believe a lot of people would like to "chuck in the corporate towel" but they don't for a variety of reasons. Regardz Colin J Davies

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            You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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            Colin Davies wrote: but they don't for a variety of reasons. A variety of excuses. I make too many, which is why I am just wondering and not doing :|

            Paul Watson
            Bluegrass
            Cape Town, South Africa

            Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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              Megan Forbes wrote: I guess the dream would be to have David Attenbrough's job hey? LOL, maybe. Bet he has tribulations in his life though. Bad camera men, doff editors, corporate politics filtering down trying to tell him how to shoot a scene, what to say, what to wear. I am thinking more of Huckleberry Finn. Just the river, a raft and me. Translate that to my dream and it is the sea shore, a cosy hut and me. :) Megan Forbes wrote: I want it all! It's important to remember that despite needing financial security for the future (yeah, really sucks) what we earn is a means to an end - a way of earning the things we enjoy. For me at the moment, that means putting my cash to travel For you it is different and probably not attainable anymore. You are married, you have committed and taken on the burden of thinking Us not Me. For me, it is just me though. I also want everything, but maybe this corporate way is not the way to that that best fits me. To be perfectly honest I want to go home, pack some clothes into my rucksack, get some cash for food, get my camera, put on my walking shoes and start heading up north. Sleeping where I can, travelling on trucks, trains, taxis, however. You know the story, the lone (wo)man travelling all their life with just what is on their back. Living in Cape Town is nice, beautiful place. But it might as well be London or New York or anywhere what with having to hold down a job, pay the rent, pay the car, pay the electricity, make nice with capitalism all the time. Working for the weekend is not enough I guess is what I am saying.

              Paul Watson
              Bluegrass
              Cape Town, South Africa

              Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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              Paul, sounds like you need a holiday! :rose: Why don't you get 20 spools, head up to Tsitsikamma for a week, and do the otter trail alone? :)


              A pack of geeks, pale and skinny, feeling a bit pumped and macho after a morning of strenuous mouse clicking and dragging, arriving en masse at the gym. They carefully reset the machines to the lowest settings, offer to spot for each other on the 5 lb dumbells, and rediscover the art of macrame while attempting to jump rope. -Roger Wright on my colleagues and I going to gym each day at lunch

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                Hi mate, I think you need a holiday, I remember you chatting about socks that didn't match and stuff a few months ago. Paul Watson wrote: Am I a unhinged - from reality- nut when I wish for the opportunity to chuck in the corporate towel, find a beach side cottage and spend the remainder of my days living a simple, honest life? Nah, just a real person. I think we all feel like that sometimes. I'm lucky, working for a little company who don't pile on the pressure, but I've been there too. I think you should take some time off and think about what you really want. I know a lady who gave up 'the day job' and moved to a tiny Scottish island, she sells photographs in the summer to pay the bills. And pleases her self most of the time. But if you do that you'll have to give up the modern expensive luxuries. I have to say that people who do don't seem to regret it. For me it comes down to one question realy ... can I give up the 'Ben & Jerrys'??? And of course the answer is no! :laugh: As they say round here, "don't let the b*st*rds grind you down' :) Ali

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                Alison Pentland wrote: and think about what you really want That is the thing. I know what I really want now. But I keep making excuses that it is not possible to pursue it. My confidence is brain washed by the mass consumerism and so called realities of making a living. Ugh. Alison Pentland wrote: I know a lady who gave up 'the day job' and moved to a tiny Scottish island, she sells photographs in the summer to pay the bills. And pleases her self most of the time *Paul smiles happily* That is what I am talking about. Alison Pentland wrote: For me it comes down to one question realy ... can I give up the 'Ben & Jerrys'??? I could. Friends often wonder how I can live without stuff. I have my books, my camera and something to write on. Other than that, I cannot name a single other thing that I could do without. People get bored buying me my Christmas and birthday presents, they say "Paul, please let me buy you something other than a book, please!!!" This year it will probably become "Paul, please let me buy you something other than a book or film, please!!!" Alison Pentland wrote: Hi mate, I think you need a holiday Thanks Alison, I know what you are thinking, but that is not it. I don't really have stress, I am not worn out, I am not ground down. It is the day in and day out reliving of Reality that makes me look forward 5 years and think: Why? For years I have thought I needed to put my head down, make a few million and then I could go and live my simple life. That money would bring me the security to do so. While that is still basically true (if someone gave me $10mil then I would go and live that simple life without looking back, I would not buy a Ferrari or have huge parties) what I am now realising is that maybe I can have the simple life without the money. I think I need a year more of this *waves arms around the office* to start believing that *waves arms towards simple life.* Taking a holiday would just blunt the blossoming thoughts :) Alison Pentland wrote: I remember you chatting about socks that didn't match That is because I am a typical male... ;)

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
                Cape Town, South Africa

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                  Colin Davies wrote: but they don't for a variety of reasons. A variety of excuses. I make too many, which is why I am just wondering and not doing :|

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                  Paul Watson wrote: I make too many, I can imagine. Sometimes you need to just say "what the hell" and leap. Or you'll never make that step. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                  You are the intrepid one, always willing to leap into the fray! A serious character flaw, I might add, but entertaining. Said by Roger Wright about me.

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                    Paul, sounds like you need a holiday! :rose: Why don't you get 20 spools, head up to Tsitsikamma for a week, and do the otter trail alone? :)


                    A pack of geeks, pale and skinny, feeling a bit pumped and macho after a morning of strenuous mouse clicking and dragging, arriving en masse at the gym. They carefully reset the machines to the lowest settings, offer to spot for each other on the 5 lb dumbells, and rediscover the art of macrame while attempting to jump rope. -Roger Wright on my colleagues and I going to gym each day at lunch

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                    Megan Forbes wrote: Paul, sounds like you need a holiday! Why don't you get 20 spools, head up to Tsitsikamma for a week, and do the otter trail alone? Because I would do that, come back to work all refreshed and then in two months time want to go back to Tsitsikamma at the same level as I was the first time. That is a big part of what I am talking about. Working for the weekend. Working for the two week holiday. Working for the privilege of spending a few days doing something you really want to... I agree one must work to appreciate. I don't want it handed to me on a silver platter. But I want to rather work at something I really enjoy, than work at something I mildly enjoy so that I can do what I really enjoy only on the weekends. This is all part of my bigger Seperation of Job and Life complaint. That seperation is what has bred our Work For The Weekend crap. Meg, you should not need to work 45 weeks of the year so that you can spend 5 taking a train across Asia taking photos and writing down peoples stories. You should be able to take that train whenever you want and spend however long you need on it. Currently you have to sacrifice half the potential pleasure of the journey because in two weeks you have to be back at the desk. I assure you, I can handle this *waves hands around office* non stop for ten more years if I have to. But I am begining to realise I don't have to handle it. I can go do what I really want... can't I?

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

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                      Is the simple life a romantic dalliance these days? Am I a unhinged - from reality- nut when I wish for the opportunity to chuck in the corporate towel, find a beach side cottage and spend the remainder of my days living a simple, honest life? The more money I make, the less satisfying I find it. Even my short term sacrifice for long term peace idea seems not worth it at times. Anyone here live a simple life, just popping into CP every now and then, when the wind blows and you can't rather go down to paddle in the ocean?

                      Paul Watson
                      Bluegrass
                      Cape Town, South Africa

                      Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                      My life's never been simple - I wish it was! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                        Is the simple life a romantic dalliance these days? Am I a unhinged - from reality- nut when I wish for the opportunity to chuck in the corporate towel, find a beach side cottage and spend the remainder of my days living a simple, honest life? The more money I make, the less satisfying I find it. Even my short term sacrifice for long term peace idea seems not worth it at times. Anyone here live a simple life, just popping into CP every now and then, when the wind blows and you can't rather go down to paddle in the ocean?

                        Paul Watson
                        Bluegrass
                        Cape Town, South Africa

                        Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                        Paul Watson wrote: Am I a unhinged - from reality- nut when I wish for the opportunity to chuck in the corporate towel, find a beach side cottage and spend the remainder of my days living a simple, honest life? You are not alone. For every day that passes the more my longing for "peace" grows. I'm not actually sure what this peace is, but I believe it's a life with no worries, no demands and no stress. I've been pondering if a life as a buddhist monk would do it. Life as I know it is a burden. I just wish there was a way to make it not as heavy. :) -- Ignorant people upsets me.

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                          Megan Forbes wrote: Paul, sounds like you need a holiday! Why don't you get 20 spools, head up to Tsitsikamma for a week, and do the otter trail alone? Because I would do that, come back to work all refreshed and then in two months time want to go back to Tsitsikamma at the same level as I was the first time. That is a big part of what I am talking about. Working for the weekend. Working for the two week holiday. Working for the privilege of spending a few days doing something you really want to... I agree one must work to appreciate. I don't want it handed to me on a silver platter. But I want to rather work at something I really enjoy, than work at something I mildly enjoy so that I can do what I really enjoy only on the weekends. This is all part of my bigger Seperation of Job and Life complaint. That seperation is what has bred our Work For The Weekend crap. Meg, you should not need to work 45 weeks of the year so that you can spend 5 taking a train across Asia taking photos and writing down peoples stories. You should be able to take that train whenever you want and spend however long you need on it. Currently you have to sacrifice half the potential pleasure of the journey because in two weeks you have to be back at the desk. I assure you, I can handle this *waves hands around office* non stop for ten more years if I have to. But I am begining to realise I don't have to handle it. I can go do what I really want... can't I?

                          Paul Watson
                          Bluegrass
                          Cape Town, South Africa

                          Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                          Paul Watson wrote: Meg, you should not need to work 45 weeks of the year so that you can spend 5 taking a train across Asia taking photos and writing down peoples stories. You should be able to take that train whenever you want and spend however long you need on it. Currently you have to sacrifice half the potential pleasure of the journey because in two weeks you have to be back at the desk. I suppose that's the challenge - becoming good enough at something that will allow you to do that sort of thing. Imagine the chaos if everyone was on holiday all the time. Who would be driving that train? Don't get me wrong - I'm suffering from exactly the same questions at the moment. I dislike sitting down at a desk all day (hence the lunchtime trips to gym to run), but life isn't fair. When I left school I wanted to go alone to the Kalahari and make wildlife documentary's, but there was noone to fund me. There's no point wasting my life crying about it. To be honest, I am happy to work hard now if it means that in 10 years time we can move to the Serengeti and start an ecotourism business - that sort of joy is worth working for and earning. Still - I shouldn't be ranting at you about this - I'm actually trying to convince myself! :( Our CEO gives me a lift in quite often, and he says the same thing to me almost every time - "anyone who wakes up in the morning should be happy, it's all about attitude." All I can say is TGIF - tomorrow I get to photograph the Chinese New Year in Soho, and hopefully on Sunday we will go to Rochester Castle for more of the same! :) Yeah yeah - that was exactly what you were condemning right?


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                            Alison Pentland wrote: and think about what you really want That is the thing. I know what I really want now. But I keep making excuses that it is not possible to pursue it. My confidence is brain washed by the mass consumerism and so called realities of making a living. Ugh. Alison Pentland wrote: I know a lady who gave up 'the day job' and moved to a tiny Scottish island, she sells photographs in the summer to pay the bills. And pleases her self most of the time *Paul smiles happily* That is what I am talking about. Alison Pentland wrote: For me it comes down to one question realy ... can I give up the 'Ben & Jerrys'??? I could. Friends often wonder how I can live without stuff. I have my books, my camera and something to write on. Other than that, I cannot name a single other thing that I could do without. People get bored buying me my Christmas and birthday presents, they say "Paul, please let me buy you something other than a book, please!!!" This year it will probably become "Paul, please let me buy you something other than a book or film, please!!!" Alison Pentland wrote: Hi mate, I think you need a holiday Thanks Alison, I know what you are thinking, but that is not it. I don't really have stress, I am not worn out, I am not ground down. It is the day in and day out reliving of Reality that makes me look forward 5 years and think: Why? For years I have thought I needed to put my head down, make a few million and then I could go and live my simple life. That money would bring me the security to do so. While that is still basically true (if someone gave me $10mil then I would go and live that simple life without looking back, I would not buy a Ferrari or have huge parties) what I am now realising is that maybe I can have the simple life without the money. I think I need a year more of this *waves arms around the office* to start believing that *waves arms towards simple life.* Taking a holiday would just blunt the blossoming thoughts :) Alison Pentland wrote: I remember you chatting about socks that didn't match That is because I am a typical male... ;)

                            Paul Watson
                            Bluegrass
                            Cape Town, South Africa

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                            Paul Watson wrote: That is the thing. I know what I really want now. But I keep making excuses that it is not possible to pursue it. My confidence is brain washed by the mass consumerism and so called realities of making a living. Ugh. If you know what you want to do then do it ..... Ali thinks and smiles .... actually I know its not that easy, I've wanted to be an artist all my life (one of my picy's is on my bio) but I don't give up work to do it. I tell myself I'm not good enough, but I see other people who are not that talented do it - so why don't I? I'm really not sure - just too scared perhaps. Paul Watson wrote: make a few million Perhaps that's where we are different 'make a few million has never been my ajenda, I could go and work in another part of the country and earn far more money than I do here. People have been telling me that for years and its true. But I choose to stay here, in a sleepy backwater - perhaps its my solution, my compromise. Hhmmmm, I still think I'm hung up on stress and you say that is not your problem, so what is your problem? I don't really get it .... Paul Watson wrote: I think I need a year more of this *waves arms around the office* to start believing that *waves arms towards simple life.* Don't let a year turn into a lifetime without noticing.:rose: Ali

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                              Megan Forbes wrote: Paul, sounds like you need a holiday! Why don't you get 20 spools, head up to Tsitsikamma for a week, and do the otter trail alone? Because I would do that, come back to work all refreshed and then in two months time want to go back to Tsitsikamma at the same level as I was the first time. That is a big part of what I am talking about. Working for the weekend. Working for the two week holiday. Working for the privilege of spending a few days doing something you really want to... I agree one must work to appreciate. I don't want it handed to me on a silver platter. But I want to rather work at something I really enjoy, than work at something I mildly enjoy so that I can do what I really enjoy only on the weekends. This is all part of my bigger Seperation of Job and Life complaint. That seperation is what has bred our Work For The Weekend crap. Meg, you should not need to work 45 weeks of the year so that you can spend 5 taking a train across Asia taking photos and writing down peoples stories. You should be able to take that train whenever you want and spend however long you need on it. Currently you have to sacrifice half the potential pleasure of the journey because in two weeks you have to be back at the desk. I assure you, I can handle this *waves hands around office* non stop for ten more years if I have to. But I am begining to realise I don't have to handle it. I can go do what I really want... can't I?

                              Paul Watson
                              Bluegrass
                              Cape Town, South Africa

                              Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                              BTW - for the coolest jobs around check out Ecoclub[^]- they are currently advertising for white water rafting guides for the States - Brendan won't let me, but maybe you can do it! :cool:


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                                Schlaubi wrote: remember a time, when I was 4 or 5, when life was really simple. No obligations, sleeping long, playing around the whole day People often hark back to their childhood and how great it was. But they forget the two people, mom and dad, who had to work 9 to 5 for 40 years to provide that simple, no obligations life for you. My simple life dream does not include being a burden on anyone :) Schlaubi wrote: now it sounds like a perfect winter dream Just like there are visual and audible people, there are summer and winter people. I am a summer person for sure :)

                                Paul Watson
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                                Cape Town, South Africa

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                                Paul Watson wrote: My simple life dream does not include being a burden on anyone :( It's not fair destroying my dream of a life free from obligations without being supported by others ;) ... but you got the point: all people having had an easy childhood should be more than thankful to their parents who provided them with all they needed (and even had the chance to coddle their children - many parents all over the world do not). Paul Watson wrote: Just like there are visual and audible people, there are summer and winter people. I am a summer person for sure And there are some who are both summer and winter people - which I belong to. When it's winter I like skiing, and in summer there's nothing better than relaxing on the beach:cool:

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                                  Is the simple life a romantic dalliance these days? Am I a unhinged - from reality- nut when I wish for the opportunity to chuck in the corporate towel, find a beach side cottage and spend the remainder of my days living a simple, honest life? The more money I make, the less satisfying I find it. Even my short term sacrifice for long term peace idea seems not worth it at times. Anyone here live a simple life, just popping into CP every now and then, when the wind blows and you can't rather go down to paddle in the ocean?

                                  Paul Watson
                                  Bluegrass
                                  Cape Town, South Africa

                                  Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                                  The more money I make, the less satisfying I find it Welcome to the Ahrimanic (materialistically evil) influence of money! Even my short term sacrifice for long term peace idea seems not worth it at times. Especially when there is no real sense of security in this world anymore. The concept of working for one company and getting a nice retirement package is gone (along with the sense that the company you work for is run by moral and upstanding citizens that are interested in YOUR wellbeing). The world is continually at war. Disease, hunger and starvation still plague most of the world. Personal relationships are fragile because of materialistic goals and the nearly complete destruction of spiritual and family values. Family relationships are destroyed by a society that becomes more and more mobile as each day goes by. Meaningful communication has been lost in this age of constant cell phone, pager, email, and discussion board babble. Immediate gratification is the norm in an age where you can practically send something tomorrow to arrive yesterday or buy something and immediately consume it. The concept of taking a breath to really think about something is losing ground to the continual barrage of media sound bite frenzy, and content is replaced with entertainment where commercials become a reprieve from the audio-video onslought of regular programming. Anyone here live a simple life For the moment (which is all that one can live in now, it seems, and even the "moment" is shrinking), I bill my clients around $65-$85 / hr, so I only need to work about 20 hours a week to meet my financial goals. That means I can do things I really want to do with the rest of my life, like writing articles for CP! :-D Marc (sarcastic??? who, me???) Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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                                    My life's never been simple - I wish it was! Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                    My life's never been simple - I wish it was! Ain't that the truth, Anna! :-D But you are also blessed--you are probably one of the few people that actually know who they are, or at least have the opportunity to figure it out and do something about it. Even if the journey is far from over, it's a blessing to be able to take the first step. philosophically yours, :-D Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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                                      The more money I make, the less satisfying I find it Welcome to the Ahrimanic (materialistically evil) influence of money! Even my short term sacrifice for long term peace idea seems not worth it at times. Especially when there is no real sense of security in this world anymore. The concept of working for one company and getting a nice retirement package is gone (along with the sense that the company you work for is run by moral and upstanding citizens that are interested in YOUR wellbeing). The world is continually at war. Disease, hunger and starvation still plague most of the world. Personal relationships are fragile because of materialistic goals and the nearly complete destruction of spiritual and family values. Family relationships are destroyed by a society that becomes more and more mobile as each day goes by. Meaningful communication has been lost in this age of constant cell phone, pager, email, and discussion board babble. Immediate gratification is the norm in an age where you can practically send something tomorrow to arrive yesterday or buy something and immediately consume it. The concept of taking a breath to really think about something is losing ground to the continual barrage of media sound bite frenzy, and content is replaced with entertainment where commercials become a reprieve from the audio-video onslought of regular programming. Anyone here live a simple life For the moment (which is all that one can live in now, it seems, and even the "moment" is shrinking), I bill my clients around $65-$85 / hr, so I only need to work about 20 hours a week to meet my financial goals. That means I can do things I really want to do with the rest of my life, like writing articles for CP! :-D Marc (sarcastic??? who, me???) Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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                                      Well said Marc. :) Anna :rose: www.annasplace.me.uk

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                                        Is the simple life a romantic dalliance these days? Am I a unhinged - from reality- nut when I wish for the opportunity to chuck in the corporate towel, find a beach side cottage and spend the remainder of my days living a simple, honest life? The more money I make, the less satisfying I find it. Even my short term sacrifice for long term peace idea seems not worth it at times. Anyone here live a simple life, just popping into CP every now and then, when the wind blows and you can't rather go down to paddle in the ocean?

                                        Paul Watson
                                        Bluegrass
                                        Cape Town, South Africa

                                        Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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                                        Well, I tend to pop into simple life when I travel. That makes it ok for me ;)


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                                          Paul Watson wrote: Meg, you should not need to work 45 weeks of the year so that you can spend 5 taking a train across Asia taking photos and writing down peoples stories. You should be able to take that train whenever you want and spend however long you need on it. Currently you have to sacrifice half the potential pleasure of the journey because in two weeks you have to be back at the desk. I suppose that's the challenge - becoming good enough at something that will allow you to do that sort of thing. Imagine the chaos if everyone was on holiday all the time. Who would be driving that train? Don't get me wrong - I'm suffering from exactly the same questions at the moment. I dislike sitting down at a desk all day (hence the lunchtime trips to gym to run), but life isn't fair. When I left school I wanted to go alone to the Kalahari and make wildlife documentary's, but there was noone to fund me. There's no point wasting my life crying about it. To be honest, I am happy to work hard now if it means that in 10 years time we can move to the Serengeti and start an ecotourism business - that sort of joy is worth working for and earning. Still - I shouldn't be ranting at you about this - I'm actually trying to convince myself! :( Our CEO gives me a lift in quite often, and he says the same thing to me almost every time - "anyone who wakes up in the morning should be happy, it's all about attitude." All I can say is TGIF - tomorrow I get to photograph the Chinese New Year in Soho, and hopefully on Sunday we will go to Rochester Castle for more of the same! :) Yeah yeah - that was exactly what you were condemning right?


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                                          Megan Forbes wrote: . Who would be driving that train? Someone who loves to drive trains... ;) Yeah, I know, that thought can only go so far before it runs up against neccesary but un-enjoyable jobs. We need robots to do those jobs :-D Megan Forbes wrote: To be honest, I am happy to work hard now if it means that in 10 years time we can move to the Serengeti and start an ecotourism business I understand, I really do, that is what I think. But, there are people who went out and started ecotourism businesses from scratch, without working 10 years before to earn the capital. That is amazing, how the hell do people do that? That is what I want to have the confidence to do :) Admit it, you would rather be right in the thick of starting your ecotourism business than at your London desk. You, like me, just need a shot in the arm of confidence. Megan Forbes wrote: "anyone who wakes up in the morning should be happy, it's all about attitude." Hey, this is me. I get out of bed and run onto my balcony naked, and happy, to see if there are any dawn shots I can get :-D And thanks for the ecoclub link. I never thought of myself as that type of person, but now I have second thoughts :)

                                          Paul Watson
                                          Bluegrass
                                          Cape Town, South Africa

                                          Roger Wright wrote: Using a feather is kinky; using the whole chicken is perverted!

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