Contact Us - here, have our email addresses
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So I wrote a short message to Lonmin (the platinum mine owners in SA) earlier this morning, with aim of expressing my displeasure at recent events. You can imagine my surprise when upon clicking 'Submit Feedback', Outlook Express opened up, complete with 3 email addresses - one each in the TO, CC and BCC fields. Having checked the source for the page, it's just a form. I Don't know if there's a cheaper, nastier way of doing it than like this (it's an ASPX page) X| X| - Not bad for a platinum mine eh? <form method="post" action="mailto:
nmsimang@deloitte.co.za
?subject=Lonmin Site Feedback&cc=evermaakv@dtss.co.za
&bcc=GregoryN@dtss.co.za
" enctype="text/plain"> See here for the live website: https://www.lonmin.com/contact_us/feedback.aspx[^]Make it work. Then do it better - Andrei Straut
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So I wrote a short message to Lonmin (the platinum mine owners in SA) earlier this morning, with aim of expressing my displeasure at recent events. You can imagine my surprise when upon clicking 'Submit Feedback', Outlook Express opened up, complete with 3 email addresses - one each in the TO, CC and BCC fields. Having checked the source for the page, it's just a form. I Don't know if there's a cheaper, nastier way of doing it than like this (it's an ASPX page) X| X| - Not bad for a platinum mine eh? <form method="post" action="mailto:
nmsimang@deloitte.co.za
?subject=Lonmin Site Feedback&cc=evermaakv@dtss.co.za
&bcc=GregoryN@dtss.co.za
" enctype="text/plain"> See here for the live website: https://www.lonmin.com/contact_us/feedback.aspx[^]Make it work. Then do it better - Andrei Straut
:doh:
public void WriteContactForm(IContactFormInfo info)
{
throw new BrainNotFoundException("Brain not found", new BadProgrammerException(
"Bad programmer", new ProgrammerIncompetentException()));
}I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image. Stephen Hawking
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So I wrote a short message to Lonmin (the platinum mine owners in SA) earlier this morning, with aim of expressing my displeasure at recent events. You can imagine my surprise when upon clicking 'Submit Feedback', Outlook Express opened up, complete with 3 email addresses - one each in the TO, CC and BCC fields. Having checked the source for the page, it's just a form. I Don't know if there's a cheaper, nastier way of doing it than like this (it's an ASPX page) X| X| - Not bad for a platinum mine eh? <form method="post" action="mailto:
nmsimang@deloitte.co.za
?subject=Lonmin Site Feedback&cc=evermaakv@dtss.co.za
&bcc=GregoryN@dtss.co.za
" enctype="text/plain"> See here for the live website: https://www.lonmin.com/contact_us/feedback.aspx[^]Make it work. Then do it better - Andrei Straut
So, has little Bobby Tables sent them anything yet? Or his HTML-encoded mates? Cheers, Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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So I wrote a short message to Lonmin (the platinum mine owners in SA) earlier this morning, with aim of expressing my displeasure at recent events. You can imagine my surprise when upon clicking 'Submit Feedback', Outlook Express opened up, complete with 3 email addresses - one each in the TO, CC and BCC fields. Having checked the source for the page, it's just a form. I Don't know if there's a cheaper, nastier way of doing it than like this (it's an ASPX page) X| X| - Not bad for a platinum mine eh? <form method="post" action="mailto:
nmsimang@deloitte.co.za
?subject=Lonmin Site Feedback&cc=evermaakv@dtss.co.za
&bcc=GregoryN@dtss.co.za
" enctype="text/plain"> See here for the live website: https://www.lonmin.com/contact_us/feedback.aspx[^]Make it work. Then do it better - Andrei Straut
They may all go to a shredder. :-D
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So I wrote a short message to Lonmin (the platinum mine owners in SA) earlier this morning, with aim of expressing my displeasure at recent events. You can imagine my surprise when upon clicking 'Submit Feedback', Outlook Express opened up, complete with 3 email addresses - one each in the TO, CC and BCC fields. Having checked the source for the page, it's just a form. I Don't know if there's a cheaper, nastier way of doing it than like this (it's an ASPX page) X| X| - Not bad for a platinum mine eh? <form method="post" action="mailto:
nmsimang@deloitte.co.za
?subject=Lonmin Site Feedback&cc=evermaakv@dtss.co.za
&bcc=GregoryN@dtss.co.za
" enctype="text/plain"> See here for the live website: https://www.lonmin.com/contact_us/feedback.aspx[^]Make it work. Then do it better - Andrei Straut
They like spam. And also your comments are considered spam.
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So, has little Bobby Tables sent them anything yet? Or his HTML-encoded mates? Cheers, Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
:smirk: Nah, nothing malicious - though 15 or 20 years ago the story may have been significantly different. For entertainment purposes though, here's what I did send. :)
name=Simon
email=peterpan@disney.com [spam-bot friendly address]
comments=All I can say is, I hope you're happy with yourselves.I can tell you right now, here in Australia we pay our gold-miners a more per week than these guys were asking per month. Yes that's right - we get their current monthly wage every couple of days - about 3 or 4 times each week.
AUD $70,000 per year would be considered an insult.
You have metaphorical blood on the grubby hands with which you grip your money with so tightly.
If the crazy legal motion is successful, you may well have a very nasty time ahead. Africa isn't a factory, where you can pay people like FoxConn employees - it's a country that has the natural resource that you want. You certainly can't move the reserves offshore, call-centre style. You're bound to play nice, leave the country, or act like a bunch of total so-and-so's. It's your choice.
Obviously I'm some fool writing to you from afar, without all of the facts and without having consulted you for your side of the story. I will not be the only 'fool' that holds these views.
That said - it's likely a situation beyond your control now. I can only hope that the saga influences future decisions to the benefit of ALL involved parties.Regards & Good Day,
Simon Beeching.PS - you may wish to fix your website - there's no excuse for a Contact Us form to open MS Outlook (or any other client-side email program for that matter)
You're using ASP.NET for the website. This has the required tools to make posting this message on your website a seamless experience for your (other) commenters
The current solution is a cheap, half-assed method. Professional is not an appropriate work to use here.It also means I have the 3 direct email addresses. These could be passed around and the inboxes filled with hateful comments the world over. I have no interest in doing anything of the sort. It is however a glaring example of a cheap, unprofessional approach. Seriously guys?!
And no, I'm not entirely stupid - I sent the email to each of the 3 addresses as email, CC and BCC (9 copies of the email in total) since I understand that people typically have rules setup on their Outlook inboxes.
I felt the matter was important enough to warrant attention - this is more likely to be gained when any inbox rule
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So I wrote a short message to Lonmin (the platinum mine owners in SA) earlier this morning, with aim of expressing my displeasure at recent events. You can imagine my surprise when upon clicking 'Submit Feedback', Outlook Express opened up, complete with 3 email addresses - one each in the TO, CC and BCC fields. Having checked the source for the page, it's just a form. I Don't know if there's a cheaper, nastier way of doing it than like this (it's an ASPX page) X| X| - Not bad for a platinum mine eh? <form method="post" action="mailto:
nmsimang@deloitte.co.za
?subject=Lonmin Site Feedback&cc=evermaakv@dtss.co.za
&bcc=GregoryN@dtss.co.za
" enctype="text/plain"> See here for the live website: https://www.lonmin.com/contact_us/feedback.aspx[^]Make it work. Then do it better - Andrei Straut
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:smirk: Nah, nothing malicious - though 15 or 20 years ago the story may have been significantly different. For entertainment purposes though, here's what I did send. :)
name=Simon
email=peterpan@disney.com [spam-bot friendly address]
comments=All I can say is, I hope you're happy with yourselves.I can tell you right now, here in Australia we pay our gold-miners a more per week than these guys were asking per month. Yes that's right - we get their current monthly wage every couple of days - about 3 or 4 times each week.
AUD $70,000 per year would be considered an insult.
You have metaphorical blood on the grubby hands with which you grip your money with so tightly.
If the crazy legal motion is successful, you may well have a very nasty time ahead. Africa isn't a factory, where you can pay people like FoxConn employees - it's a country that has the natural resource that you want. You certainly can't move the reserves offshore, call-centre style. You're bound to play nice, leave the country, or act like a bunch of total so-and-so's. It's your choice.
Obviously I'm some fool writing to you from afar, without all of the facts and without having consulted you for your side of the story. I will not be the only 'fool' that holds these views.
That said - it's likely a situation beyond your control now. I can only hope that the saga influences future decisions to the benefit of ALL involved parties.Regards & Good Day,
Simon Beeching.PS - you may wish to fix your website - there's no excuse for a Contact Us form to open MS Outlook (or any other client-side email program for that matter)
You're using ASP.NET for the website. This has the required tools to make posting this message on your website a seamless experience for your (other) commenters
The current solution is a cheap, half-assed method. Professional is not an appropriate work to use here.It also means I have the 3 direct email addresses. These could be passed around and the inboxes filled with hateful comments the world over. I have no interest in doing anything of the sort. It is however a glaring example of a cheap, unprofessional approach. Seriously guys?!
And no, I'm not entirely stupid - I sent the email to each of the 3 addresses as email, CC and BCC (9 copies of the email in total) since I understand that people typically have rules setup on their Outlook inboxes.
I felt the matter was important enough to warrant attention - this is more likely to be gained when any inbox rule
Did you really intend to include your email address in this post (line 2) or is that a :doh: ? Normally we discourage doing so and since your original post was about how bad it is for them to publish their email addresses the way they do, you might have overlooked your own being included here. For the spammers to see. For the whole world to see :~. Soren Madsen
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Hey, some people LIKE using their own email client to compose emails! I know it must be a foreign concept to you, since you use Outlook Express... ;)
The last time I used (& co-incidentally enjoyed) an email program was pmail under win2k(dos). Doing all email via webclients/phone app, I've no need to setup email. Which is why whenever somebody tries this trick, it opens up with empty from field - I've never setup an outlook account.. ;P
Make it work. Then do it better - Andrei Straut
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Did you really intend to include your email address in this post (line 2) or is that a :doh: ? Normally we discourage doing so and since your original post was about how bad it is for them to publish their email addresses the way they do, you might have overlooked your own being included here. For the spammers to see. For the whole world to see :~. Soren Madsen