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  • L lewax00

    Easy solution: don't buy a computer, build it yourself. Then there is no software, unless you put it there yourself :-D

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    Chris Losinger
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    ...and for the 99% of people who can barely figure out how to plug in the keyboard?

    image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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    • C Chris Losinger

      ...and for the 99% of people who can barely figure out how to plug in the keyboard?

      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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      Colin Mullikin
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      Chris Losinger wrote:

      ...and for the 99% of people who can barely figure out how to plug in the keyboard?

      Is that the same as the 99% of people? ;P

      The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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      • C Chris Losinger

        ...and for the 99% of people who can barely figure out how to plug in the keyboard?

        image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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        lewax00
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        The less of them on computers the better. It might help clean up the "NEED CODE URGENTZ"...

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        • C Chris Losinger

          ...and for the 99% of people who can barely figure out how to plug in the keyboard?

          image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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          Lost User
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          Either an Xbox or an iPhone.

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: if you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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          • C Clark Kent123

            BBC New - Malware inserted on PC production lines, says study[^]

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            Several new computers have been found carrying malware installed in the factory, suggests a Microsoft study. One virus called Nitol found by Microsoft steals personal details to help criminals plunder online bank accounts.

            Why go to harmful websites when you can buy harmful computers to begin with?

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            Old Ed
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            It's interesting there was no sample of computers bought in countries other than China. Are we to assume they'd be clean? I doubt it.

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            • C Clark Kent123

              BBC New - Malware inserted on PC production lines, says study[^]

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              Several new computers have been found carrying malware installed in the factory, suggests a Microsoft study. One virus called Nitol found by Microsoft steals personal details to help criminals plunder online bank accounts.

              Why go to harmful websites when you can buy harmful computers to begin with?

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              Robert Ludwig
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              I always figured that, since the Chinese make all the chips, they were in a position to put anything they wanted directly into the hardware if they desired. Kinda makes you wonder about all that military hardware out there, doesn't it.

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                BBC New - Malware inserted on PC production lines, says study[^]

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                Several new computers have been found carrying malware installed in the factory, suggests a Microsoft study. One virus called Nitol found by Microsoft steals personal details to help criminals plunder online bank accounts.

                Why go to harmful websites when you can buy harmful computers to begin with?

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                RafagaX
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                Probaly doing computers in China wasn't a good idea after all...

                CEO at: - Rafaga Systems - Para Facturas - Modern Components for the moment...

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                • C Clark Kent123

                  BBC New - Malware inserted on PC production lines, says study[^]

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                  Several new computers have been found carrying malware installed in the factory, suggests a Microsoft study. One virus called Nitol found by Microsoft steals personal details to help criminals plunder online bank accounts.

                  Why go to harmful websites when you can buy harmful computers to begin with?

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                  One company I worked for had a QA department and their computers were always infected. Tech support would roll through and clean their computers, but right after they left, it seemed someone would pull out a floppy and manage to reinfect all the systems. At one time I was asked to download a program over our WAN and then compile and create 5-1/4" and 3.5" floppies with the install EXEs. It was strange that people from different departments would stop by to ask me how things were going, so I suspected there was more going on than I had been told about. Therefore I was very careful in creating the sets. In fact I had made both sets before lunch and during lunch, reviewing things in my mind, I concluded I had made a mistake with one of the sets. Rather than just redo one set, I did both so the timestamps would be the same. (no need to give them something simple to seize on, witch hunting was their favorite sport, as you will soon see). So I delivered the disks to the QA department and the head of the department asked me if I had virus checked the disks. I hadn't because we had been given boxes of clean disks that had been blessed by the tech department and I had pulled the blanks from those boxes. The QA head said, "That's probably for the best, we should check that ourselves." Later, I saw the QA head and others who had stopped by my cube, going from cube to cube of others who had stopped by and were added to the group. I had visions of peasants gathering their pitchfolks and torches heading towards my cube. So I was forced to run a virus check on my computer (clean) and several of the disks in the boxes of "clean" disks the tech department had given me (clean) while everyone stood as witness. They still tried to place the blame on me by asking if I could have found the infection before they got to me and removed it. I asked, "If I had found a virus, why wouldn't I just go to you and warn you?" They sort of hemmed and hawed at that. Seems that they had replicated around 5000 copies of the disks before they realized that they were all infected with some virus. It was a large company and if they could monumentally screw up after going through their QA department, I'm not surprised that some electronics are delivered the same way. Wasn't there some game cartridge manufactured with a virus on it a few years back?

                  Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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                    One company I worked for had a QA department and their computers were always infected. Tech support would roll through and clean their computers, but right after they left, it seemed someone would pull out a floppy and manage to reinfect all the systems. At one time I was asked to download a program over our WAN and then compile and create 5-1/4" and 3.5" floppies with the install EXEs. It was strange that people from different departments would stop by to ask me how things were going, so I suspected there was more going on than I had been told about. Therefore I was very careful in creating the sets. In fact I had made both sets before lunch and during lunch, reviewing things in my mind, I concluded I had made a mistake with one of the sets. Rather than just redo one set, I did both so the timestamps would be the same. (no need to give them something simple to seize on, witch hunting was their favorite sport, as you will soon see). So I delivered the disks to the QA department and the head of the department asked me if I had virus checked the disks. I hadn't because we had been given boxes of clean disks that had been blessed by the tech department and I had pulled the blanks from those boxes. The QA head said, "That's probably for the best, we should check that ourselves." Later, I saw the QA head and others who had stopped by my cube, going from cube to cube of others who had stopped by and were added to the group. I had visions of peasants gathering their pitchfolks and torches heading towards my cube. So I was forced to run a virus check on my computer (clean) and several of the disks in the boxes of "clean" disks the tech department had given me (clean) while everyone stood as witness. They still tried to place the blame on me by asking if I could have found the infection before they got to me and removed it. I asked, "If I had found a virus, why wouldn't I just go to you and warn you?" They sort of hemmed and hawed at that. Seems that they had replicated around 5000 copies of the disks before they realized that they were all infected with some virus. It was a large company and if they could monumentally screw up after going through their QA department, I'm not surprised that some electronics are delivered the same way. Wasn't there some game cartridge manufactured with a virus on it a few years back?

                    Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

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                    Clark Kent123
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                    :omg: That's horrible. Seems that this problem has been going on for some time. I can't recall if a game has done something along of these lines, but what I do recall is Sony used to put a tracking device on their cd's to find out how many rips you were doing and forced paying customers to choose a certain format in the rip. Unsurprisingly, mp3s were not part of the choice. But it was soon reversed. It's sad that companies resort to these petty annoyances.

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                    • C Chris Losinger

                      ...and for the 99% of people who can barely figure out how to plug in the keyboard?

                      image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                      James Lonero
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                      That's good. It will keep the 1% of us employed for a long, long time. (Wishful thinking.)

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                      • E ed welch

                        couldn't be any worse than the bloatware that already comes pre-installed on new PCs

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                        Stefan_Lang
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                        You mean Windows? ;)

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                        • R Robert Ludwig

                          I always figured that, since the Chinese make all the chips, they were in a position to put anything they wanted directly into the hardware if they desired. Kinda makes you wonder about all that military hardware out there, doesn't it.

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                          hernandezpaul
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                          Fortunately most military hardware isn't allowed to be made with chips and processors sourced outside the U.S. There is a major concern that countries like China will alter the chips at the factories to contain security bypasses that will allow them to get around security or funnel information back to China. The downside is that this increases the costs of the components by a lot and causes longs delays before you can get replacements. If one of these computers goes out, they can't just order a new one from a computer store.

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