Coded insults
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Programmer sure seems to heve a high opinion of themselves. After all, it's not like they disabled that execute button until the user had loaded an XSD and selected at least one file. And to top it off, they tried to cover up their shortcomings by insulting the user. Stupid programmer. Programmer: -1 User: 0
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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Programmer sure seems to heve a high opinion of themselves. After all, it's not like they disabled that execute button until the user had loaded an XSD and selected at least one file. And to top it off, they tried to cover up their shortcomings by insulting the user. Stupid programmer. Programmer: -1 User: 0
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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A good point. Such easily pre-checkable conditions can be coded around, in a UI at least, so that the user can't make that stupid mistake.
Be careful with assumptions about what the user can and cannot do through the UI, especially if you work on the web. The QA team at my company has specific instructions to enable all disabled buttons and controls using various means (on the web, it's pretty easy: Inspect Element. For Windows applications, a special app is needed). The main reason is to secure the app against users being malicious rather than stupid, though.
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I just use a message box that says "Too late for sorry, earthling!" It should NEVER be seen by anyone but me, and so far I have yet to hear about it
emajyn wrote:
I have yet to hear about it
Perhaps because such a message screams to the user that you don't want to hear about it if it ever does happen. At least add a unique guru meditation number or something to the message. That'll turn it into a whimisical way to deliver an obscure error. Might someday keep your management from loosing face to some customer with clout who happens to get that message.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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From the main form of a simple XSD validator app..
void executeButton\_click(object sender, EventArgs e) { if (userTooStupid(schema == null, "You gotta load an XSD first, genius.") || userTooStupid(fileBrowser1.SelectedFiles.Length == 0, "You've selected zero files. And they're all valid!!")) return; bool userTooStupid(bool condition, string insult) { if (condition) MessageBox.Show(insult, "User Too Stupid"); return condition; }:sigh:
public void WriteCode(ICodeContext ctx, ICodeFile file)
{
Programmer.BeMeanToUsersAsTheyAreStoopid(ctx, file, MeanLevel.Medium); //<-- I have seen many worse things :-(
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From the main form of a simple XSD validator app..
void executeButton\_click(object sender, EventArgs e) { if (userTooStupid(schema == null, "You gotta load an XSD first, genius.") || userTooStupid(fileBrowser1.SelectedFiles.Length == 0, "You've selected zero files. And they're all valid!!")) return; bool userTooStupid(bool condition, string insult) { if (condition) MessageBox.Show(insult, "User Too Stupid"); return condition; } -
Be careful with assumptions about what the user can and cannot do through the UI, especially if you work on the web. The QA team at my company has specific instructions to enable all disabled buttons and controls using various means (on the web, it's pretty easy: Inspect Element. For Windows applications, a special app is needed). The main reason is to secure the app against users being malicious rather than stupid, though.
If the user bypasses having things disabled or manually submits invalid data, then a terse error message is fair enough. That's not normal usage, that's abuse, and the code should protect itself against such things. The example in the OP appears to be for something that can happen in normal usage when it shouldn't be able to, though.
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What's the name of the validator app?
I called it "Rude XSD validator". It was something I threw together in a hurry. The software we develop is serviced/administered by another company. We had a situation in which we needed to know if XML files provided by a third party were in accordance to a given XSD. The administrators were unable to figure it out and asked me to provide them with a tool... So I quickly threw together a WinForms GUI in which one can load one XSD, easily choose one or more files, and validate them all. In other words, a few people I knew a little and collaborated with would be my users. We have an informal tone, and nobody complained of anything.
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A good point. Such easily pre-checkable conditions can be coded around, in a UI at least, so that the user can't make that stupid mistake.
Yes you can do that, but it will result in the 'stupid user' complaining about the execute button not being active. At least the way it's handled here offers the opportunity to explain why this won't work, and what is expected. Granted, it could be expressed ... differently :rose:
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I just use a message box that says "Too late for sorry, earthling!" It should NEVER be seen by anyone but me, and so far I have yet to hear about it
Yes, I too once coded an error message under a condition that at that point I assumed was a foregone conclusion. It said sth along the lines of. "you should never see this error message. If you do, please contact <my name>" Of course, that impossible condition did hit eventually, and I got a call from our customer.. Thankfully the software was still under testing at that point so it wasn't some clueless user, but a rather exhilarated tester... :-O
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Yes, I too once coded an error message under a condition that at that point I assumed was a foregone conclusion. It said sth along the lines of. "you should never see this error message. If you do, please contact <my name>" Of course, that impossible condition did hit eventually, and I got a call from our customer.. Thankfully the software was still under testing at that point so it wasn't some clueless user, but a rather exhilarated tester... :-O
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Programmer sure seems to heve a high opinion of themselves. After all, it's not like they disabled that execute button until the user had loaded an XSD and selected at least one file. And to top it off, they tried to cover up their shortcomings by insulting the user. Stupid programmer. Programmer: -1 User: 0
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
Agreed. Keep thinking your user is "stupid" and pretty soon you won't have any. /ravi
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I think it isn't too polite when you show a message box to your user which is telling him that he is too stupid :doh: . Just a gues ;P
Mark Springsteen wrote:
I think it isn't too polite when you show a message box to your user which is telling him that he is too stupid :doh: .
Is politeness or honesty preferred? "Replace Application Operator" is sometimes the best advice an application can give.
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The user would probably complain that "Too" and "Stupid" should be lowercase only, and that pressing "Tab" button should close the message box.
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Mark Springsteen wrote:
I think it isn't too polite when you show a message box to your user which is telling him that he is too stupid :doh: .
Is politeness or honesty preferred? "Replace Application Operator" is sometimes the best advice an application can give.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: if you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Is politeness or honesty preferred?
Honesty is important. Why can't you insult your user in a honest way ;) ?
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From the main form of a simple XSD validator app..
void executeButton\_click(object sender, EventArgs e) { if (userTooStupid(schema == null, "You gotta load an XSD first, genius.") || userTooStupid(fileBrowser1.SelectedFiles.Length == 0, "You've selected zero files. And they're all valid!!")) return; bool userTooStupid(bool condition, string insult) { if (condition) MessageBox.Show(insult, "User Too Stupid"); return condition; }There is a great tool for working with images called "ImgBurn", it has more coded insults than any other application I've ever used. It's more condescending than anything, like, hey, I've noticed you're doing it wrong, would you like me to do it right? (Yes, No) It's also very good at it's job, and has saved me a TON of wasted disc, I highly recommend it. :D
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There is a great tool for working with images called "ImgBurn", it has more coded insults than any other application I've ever used. It's more condescending than anything, like, hey, I've noticed you're doing it wrong, would you like me to do it right? (Yes, No) It's also very good at it's job, and has saved me a TON of wasted disc, I highly recommend it. :D
I looked those up on Google, and found that those are quotes from movies. They can be turned off in the options dialog. I never noticed them before, and I use ImgBurn quite a bit.
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