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    Terrence Dorsey
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    PandoDaily[^]:

    Microsoft is betting that users will want a single interface that does everything—an OS that feels the same across your phone, your tablet and your desktop. It’s a huge gamble, but if Microsoft gets it right, the strategy could play off: The firm would be able to leverage its PC monopoly to push developers into building apps for tablets and phones—potentially bringing Microsoft’s app store to parity with Apple’s.

    Is Windows 8 a step forward... or another Vista?

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      PandoDaily[^]:

      Microsoft is betting that users will want a single interface that does everything—an OS that feels the same across your phone, your tablet and your desktop. It’s a huge gamble, but if Microsoft gets it right, the strategy could play off: The firm would be able to leverage its PC monopoly to push developers into building apps for tablets and phones—potentially bringing Microsoft’s app store to parity with Apple’s.

      Is Windows 8 a step forward... or another Vista?

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      Casey Sheridan
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      If I could, I'd give you more than a 5 for this one. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I totally agree with this article and I'm excited that somebody sat down and wrote it! (I just wish it was me :-\ )

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      There’s a lot to love about the new Windows, and if people give themselves time to get used to it, they may well come to regard the software as a sign of Microsoft’s rebirth.

      When I initially got a copy of the Developer Preview, I was frustrated that Microsoft would take such a direction. But now, after lots of time spent with it, I couldn't be much more excited. I hope this works out for Microsoft!

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        PandoDaily[^]:

        Microsoft is betting that users will want a single interface that does everything—an OS that feels the same across your phone, your tablet and your desktop. It’s a huge gamble, but if Microsoft gets it right, the strategy could play off: The firm would be able to leverage its PC monopoly to push developers into building apps for tablets and phones—potentially bringing Microsoft’s app store to parity with Apple’s.

        Is Windows 8 a step forward... or another Vista?

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        Chris Maunder
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        Terrence Dorsey wrote:

        an OS that feels the same across your phone, your tablet and your desktop.

        But...but...but... The OS doesn't feel the same across a tablet, phone and PC. On the tablet and phone it's pure touch, pure Metro. On a PC there's no touch unless you have a touchscreen - and how many businesses will upgrade to Ultrabooks or all-in-ones with touchscreens? - and you have the Desktop that rudely gets in the way. On a phone or tablet I perform small, simple, dedicated tasks. Browse, email, read, watch. I do one at a time (except when trying to add an image into an email, or browse a link in an email) so apps being fullscreen is the best solution. The set of apps I work with are broken up into pages of apps, so browsing through them is simple. On a desktop I do lots of very complicated, immersive stuff and have dozens of applications I want to get to quickly. A page of apps on my 23" monitor is a lot. I work with lots of files and documents that I scatter around my desktop and need quick access to. I work with, typically, 7-10 different applications at once. Not "open all at once", but "I work with them all at once". VS, IE, FF, Image editing, email, bug tracker, Word, SVN, SQL Server - back and forwards between them constantly. Because of this I need a UI that does not assume full-screen apps, and I need my files. I'm going to be in the Desktop of Win8 more than Metro, and quite frankly wish I could just hide the Start screen and not need to dive into it each time I want to find an application to start up. I don't know, but maybe a popup version of the start screen - maybe accessible from a bottom corner of the desktop, and have it pop-up like a menu or something. Call it just "Start" instead of "Start screen" to save space. Call me a dinosaur in this regard, but I don't work for my OS. My OS works for me, and I will use the one that works best for me.

        cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          Terrence Dorsey wrote:

          an OS that feels the same across your phone, your tablet and your desktop.

          But...but...but... The OS doesn't feel the same across a tablet, phone and PC. On the tablet and phone it's pure touch, pure Metro. On a PC there's no touch unless you have a touchscreen - and how many businesses will upgrade to Ultrabooks or all-in-ones with touchscreens? - and you have the Desktop that rudely gets in the way. On a phone or tablet I perform small, simple, dedicated tasks. Browse, email, read, watch. I do one at a time (except when trying to add an image into an email, or browse a link in an email) so apps being fullscreen is the best solution. The set of apps I work with are broken up into pages of apps, so browsing through them is simple. On a desktop I do lots of very complicated, immersive stuff and have dozens of applications I want to get to quickly. A page of apps on my 23" monitor is a lot. I work with lots of files and documents that I scatter around my desktop and need quick access to. I work with, typically, 7-10 different applications at once. Not "open all at once", but "I work with them all at once". VS, IE, FF, Image editing, email, bug tracker, Word, SVN, SQL Server - back and forwards between them constantly. Because of this I need a UI that does not assume full-screen apps, and I need my files. I'm going to be in the Desktop of Win8 more than Metro, and quite frankly wish I could just hide the Start screen and not need to dive into it each time I want to find an application to start up. I don't know, but maybe a popup version of the start screen - maybe accessible from a bottom corner of the desktop, and have it pop-up like a menu or something. Call it just "Start" instead of "Start screen" to save space. Call me a dinosaur in this regard, but I don't work for my OS. My OS works for me, and I will use the one that works best for me.

          cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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          Chris Maunder wrote:

          I don't know, but maybe a popup version of the start screen - maybe accessible from a bottom corner of the desktop, and have it pop-up like a menu or something. Call it just "Start" instead of "Start screen" to save space

          At some point (when I'm finished with certain other things), I may just write this.

          *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

          "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

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            Chris Maunder wrote:

            I don't know, but maybe a popup version of the start screen - maybe accessible from a bottom corner of the desktop, and have it pop-up like a menu or something. Call it just "Start" instead of "Start screen" to save space

            At some point (when I'm finished with certain other things), I may just write this.

            *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

            "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

            CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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            Already done[^]

            cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              Already done[^]

              cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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              Nice - very nice indeed. Well, that's one article I won't need to write.

              *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

              "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

              CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                Already done[^]

                cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP

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                I've added it to the Free tools forum - saves you the hassle.

                *pre-emptive celebratory nipple tassle jiggle* - Sean Ewington

                "Mind bleach! Send me mind bleach!" - Nagy Vilmos

                CodeStash - Online Snippet Management | My blog | MoXAML PowerToys | Mole 2010 - debugging made easier

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                • C Casey Sheridan

                  If I could, I'd give you more than a 5 for this one. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I totally agree with this article and I'm excited that somebody sat down and wrote it! (I just wish it was me :-\ )

                  Quote:

                  There’s a lot to love about the new Windows, and if people give themselves time to get used to it, they may well come to regard the software as a sign of Microsoft’s rebirth.

                  When I initially got a copy of the Developer Preview, I was frustrated that Microsoft would take such a direction. But now, after lots of time spent with it, I couldn't be much more excited. I hope this works out for Microsoft!

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                  GeekForChrist wrote:

                  I totally agree with this article and I'm excited that somebody sat down and wrote it! (I just wish it was me :-> )

                  I've read that article from at least a dozen people over the last six months. Most of the times as part of the insider...

                  Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                    GeekForChrist wrote:

                    I totally agree with this article and I'm excited that somebody sat down and wrote it! (I just wish it was me :-> )

                    I've read that article from at least a dozen people over the last six months. Most of the times as part of the insider...

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                    Casey Sheridan
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                    Dan Neely wrote:

                    Most of the times as part of the insider...

                    Sorry about that. I didn't realize that this article has been through here before.

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                      PandoDaily[^]:

                      Microsoft is betting that users will want a single interface that does everything—an OS that feels the same across your phone, your tablet and your desktop. It’s a huge gamble, but if Microsoft gets it right, the strategy could play off: The firm would be able to leverage its PC monopoly to push developers into building apps for tablets and phones—potentially bringing Microsoft’s app store to parity with Apple’s.

                      Is Windows 8 a step forward... or another Vista?

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                      I am not particularly an Apple MAC fan, but if I wanted a MAC I would go to an Apple store and buy one. Trying to be one thing to everything one may not work and the calls to the Help Desk in a business environment may be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Just look at the number of businesses still running XP/PRO....

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