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BobJanova wrote:
Wrong forum?
Have you missed the signature? It does not have a main method! - the interviewer said! :doh:
Regards Vallarasu S | BreakingDotNet.blogspot.com
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In an interview an year ago I was asked with this question. When you can 'Run' an exe file, why can't a 'dll'? :confused::confused::confused: I was speechless and said 'it was not intended to be' but to no avail. It was clear the interview panel wasn't prepared for interviewing and I managed to to get the interviewers answer! Wait! What would you answer if such question was fired at you?
Coz, it does not have a main method - He said!
Yes, not having a main method is a key part of the correct answer to that.
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In an interview an year ago I was asked with this question. When you can 'Run' an exe file, why can't a 'dll'? :confused::confused::confused: I was speechless and said 'it was not intended to be' but to no avail. It was clear the interview panel wasn't prepared for interviewing and I managed to to get the interviewers answer! Wait! What would you answer if such question was fired at you?
Coz, it does not have a main method - He said!
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Yes, not having a main method is a key part of the correct answer to that.
You may be right, but on the other hand I can compile any code into a dll, so does a "main()" method, but still it won't execute! ;P
Regards Vallarasu S | BreakingDotNet.blogspot.com
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In an interview an year ago I was asked with this question. When you can 'Run' an exe file, why can't a 'dll'? :confused::confused::confused: I was speechless and said 'it was not intended to be' but to no avail. It was clear the interview panel wasn't prepared for interviewing and I managed to to get the interviewers answer! Wait! What would you answer if such question was fired at you?
Coz, it does not have a main method - He said!
DLL not having the main method is not the right answer. In Windows, EXEs and DLLs have the same format which is the PE (Portable Executable) format. The PE format has a header called the optional header which records the address of the entry point. Both EXEs and DLLs can have an entry point. In fact DLLs do have a default entry point called DllMain. The only difference here is that, this entry point is optional for DLLs unlike that for an EXE. As for a DLL having multiple entry points, an EXE can also do this the same way a DLL does, by exporting them. And an external program can call into these exported entry points the same way it does for a DLL, using LoadLibrary and GetProcAddress. So the real difference is in a bit in one of the PE headers which states whether the image is a DLL or not, which the loader checks before executing the image.
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In an interview an year ago I was asked with this question. When you can 'Run' an exe file, why can't a 'dll'? :confused::confused::confused: I was speechless and said 'it was not intended to be' but to no avail. It was clear the interview panel wasn't prepared for interviewing and I managed to to get the interviewers answer! Wait! What would you answer if such question was fired at you?
Coz, it does not have a main method - He said!
The main difference is that exe runs in it's own address space as the independent process. The DLL works in the address space of the parent process, so the prolog executed during loading is different, and any entry point of the DLL cannot be called directly by OS. Only parent process can load and call DLL. That's why you need regsvr32 hosting exe to use DllRegisterServer "independent" entry point. Regards, Gennady
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No one does ;)
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In an interview an year ago I was asked with this question. When you can 'Run' an exe file, why can't a 'dll'? :confused::confused::confused: I was speechless and said 'it was not intended to be' but to no avail. It was clear the interview panel wasn't prepared for interviewing and I managed to to get the interviewers answer! Wait! What would you answer if such question was fired at you?
Coz, it does not have a main method - He said!
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In an interview an year ago I was asked with this question. When you can 'Run' an exe file, why can't a 'dll'? :confused::confused::confused: I was speechless and said 'it was not intended to be' but to no avail. It was clear the interview panel wasn't prepared for interviewing and I managed to to get the interviewers answer! Wait! What would you answer if such question was fired at you?
Coz, it does not have a main method - He said!
Actually, you _can_ run a dll - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/164787. Agree, it's not exactly the same as running an .exe, but then again, Windows itself starts tons of processes using rundll/rundll32.
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In an interview an year ago I was asked with this question. When you can 'Run' an exe file, why can't a 'dll'? :confused::confused::confused: I was speechless and said 'it was not intended to be' but to no avail. It was clear the interview panel wasn't prepared for interviewing and I managed to to get the interviewers answer! Wait! What would you answer if such question was fired at you?
Coz, it does not have a main method - He said!
I would set aside all the BS responses they might be looking for and tell them the basic reason. An EXE is configured by the compiler as an application and a DLL is built to be an extension library that can be shared by multiple EXE files. Nothing more technical than that is needed. If they were looking for anything more than that at a basic level then I wouldn't want to work for them because they really like to pick nits about crap that isn't really all that relevant. -CB
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No one does ;)
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I would set aside all the BS responses they might be looking for and tell them the basic reason. An EXE is configured by the compiler as an application and a DLL is built to be an extension library that can be shared by multiple EXE files. Nothing more technical than that is needed. If they were looking for anything more than that at a basic level then I wouldn't want to work for them because they really like to pick nits about crap that isn't really all that relevant. -CB
I completely agree... I have found in the many interviews that I have taken that when the interviewers begin asking incredibly detailed questions relating to irrelevant knowledge for most application development they have no real interest in hiring anyone. Of course, they may also just like asking people a lot of stupid questions... :-)
Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@ix.netcom.com
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I completely agree... I have found in the many interviews that I have taken that when the interviewers begin asking incredibly detailed questions relating to irrelevant knowledge for most application development they have no real interest in hiring anyone. Of course, they may also just like asking people a lot of stupid questions... :-)
Steve Naidamast Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@ix.netcom.com
Steve Naidamast wrote:
I have found in the many interviews that I have taken that when the interviewers begin asking incredibly detailed questions relating to irrelevant knowledge for most application development they have no real interest in hiring anyone. Of course, they may also just like asking people a lot of stupid questions...
When they get like that I begin to realize that they're just playing "Jeopardy". Any "propeller-head" can spout out technology terms. What I want to demonstrate to a prospective employer/client is that I know how to THINK. Sure, some built-in knowledge is important but EQUALLY important is realizing you can't keep it all in your head. That's what reference material is for. Why bother memorizing everything? If I'm aware of how a particular language feature works that's enough: when I need it I'll look it up if it isn't something I use on a day-by-day basis. I remember for a while some of the guys at our company were all about getting "certifications". Cool, except when I would go to them with a real problem they couldn't think clearly enough to solve the problem: it wasn't one of the test questions so they didn't know what to do! Heh ... -cb
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You may be right, but on the other hand I can compile any code into a dll, so does a "main()" method, but still it won't execute! ;P
Regards Vallarasu S | BreakingDotNet.blogspot.com
Exactly, the correct term would be a main entry point. The main method is just a label used by compilers to indicate the main entry point of the application. Plus, there are a few details that are different between DLLs and EXEs like the PE Header.
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You may be right, but on the other hand I can compile any code into a dll, so does a "main()" method, but still it won't execute! ;P
Regards Vallarasu S | BreakingDotNet.blogspot.com
Yes it will, if you know the magic words (or command).
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In an interview an year ago I was asked with this question. When you can 'Run' an exe file, why can't a 'dll'? :confused::confused::confused: I was speechless and said 'it was not intended to be' but to no avail. It was clear the interview panel wasn't prepared for interviewing and I managed to to get the interviewers answer! Wait! What would you answer if such question was fired at you?
Coz, it does not have a main method - He said!
If i asked this question i would expect this answer: "Both CAN be run, usually a DLL is intended to be used inside another program, that's why normally you don't run a dll directly." But an acceptable answer will be: "DLLs are intended to be used inside programs, while EXEs are programs themselves"
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VallarasuS wrote:
Wait! What would you answer if such question was fired at you?
Probably the answer they were looking for: An exe requires a fixed entry point, so the loader can work out where start execution. A dll lacks this entry point and therefore the loader can't work out where to start. Other than that, I don't think there are any important differences between an exe and dll, though I could be wrong about that.
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In an interview an year ago I was asked with this question. When you can 'Run' an exe file, why can't a 'dll'? :confused::confused::confused: I was speechless and said 'it was not intended to be' but to no avail. It was clear the interview panel wasn't prepared for interviewing and I managed to to get the interviewers answer! Wait! What would you answer if such question was fired at you?
Coz, it does not have a main method - He said!
Also, a DLL doesn't have its own stack, by default. An exe does.
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In an interview an year ago I was asked with this question. When you can 'Run' an exe file, why can't a 'dll'? :confused::confused::confused: I was speechless and said 'it was not intended to be' but to no avail. It was clear the interview panel wasn't prepared for interviewing and I managed to to get the interviewers answer! Wait! What would you answer if such question was fired at you?
Coz, it does not have a main method - He said!
On Windows, there are cases where you can run a function in a dll with rundll32.exe if the function's takes no args and its return type is void. In other words, the function needs to be as much of a standalone as an exe file. For example, in Powersell, PS> rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks PS> rundll32.exe user32.dll,LockWorkStation
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In an interview an year ago I was asked with this question. When you can 'Run' an exe file, why can't a 'dll'? :confused::confused::confused: I was speechless and said 'it was not intended to be' but to no avail. It was clear the interview panel wasn't prepared for interviewing and I managed to to get the interviewers answer! Wait! What would you answer if such question was fired at you?
Coz, it does not have a main method - He said!
I confess I didn't read the tag line either. There's a bit of a problem with the semantics of the statement too. I'd agree that you can't start an execution from a dll (from other comments, I'd be wrong about that too, but don't know how), but you definitely do run dll code.