Abuse of Power?
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I think a "report message as crap" option in addition to spam/abusive might make things clearer. :)
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I happen to agree with you, but when I suggested that in The Box once, I did not sense a whole lot of support: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4533530/Re-Please-bring-back-down-voting.aspx[^] Soren Madsen
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Do we really want to ban people for telling bad jokes? Please see this post[^]which got the member banned. Now I don't particularly like the bad jokes that blight the Soapbox but I don't think the intention of the report message button was to remove members who post them, which is what happened in this case. One poster has admitted in that thread that when he reported it he didn't think it would get the member banned, but I suspect the rest of the reporters knew that would be the result(and I reckon I could name them). I thought that the idea when the down-voting was removed, was that if we didn't like something we should say so by replying to that member in order to educate them in the forum protocol, this has also happened in that thread but people still felt the need to remove him. The reporters will say that he has been warned before and didn't listen, but I think he is genuinely trying to fit in and his only crime is to post rubbish jokes - not really a banning criteria and a 'crime' that many others are guilty of in that forum, but they don't get banned. When the remove power was in the hands of the admins, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have removed him, so we shouldn't remove him either. After all he marked his post with a joke icon, so members who didn't like his previous jokes could have just passed on by without reading it. Is it worth reminding the people who reported it what the report button should actually be used for?
That was unfortunate. I think enabling down-voting on Lounge might help, I think when members have nothing to express their dislike they just reporting the post/member as spam.
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The user has been reinstated.
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
Does he know? I'd have thought we would have seen something from him upon his reinstatement.
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I think a "report message as crap" option in addition to spam/abusive might make things clearer. :)
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
Excellent idea! :thumbsup:
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience
Greg King
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That was unfortunate. I think enabling down-voting on Lounge might help, I think when members have nothing to express their dislike they just reporting the post/member as spam.
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Rajesh's idea of a "report message as crap" option seems like the perfect solution to me. It needn't do anything but count the number of reports, no minus points, no abuse/spam deletes or ahything like that. Just let the OP know how many people that didn't like his post...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience
Greg King
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I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!
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That was unfortunate. I think enabling down-voting on Lounge might help, I think when members have nothing to express their dislike they just reporting the post/member as spam.
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I think the intentions behind the current system are clear. If a message is being reported as spam, then the member is a spammer, which should in fact get them banned. Unfortunately, incidents like this happen when people resort to reporting a message as they don't have any other means to vent their anger on an utterly nonsensical post. But then I've also seen that incidents like this are not very frequent, and when it does happen, our members get the unintentionally closed account reinstated. This is a fair trade to ensure that the actual spammers will get kicked out by the system really quick. I think everything is in order. :)
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
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Rajesh's idea of a "report message as crap" option seems like the perfect solution to me. It needn't do anything but count the number of reports, no minus points, no abuse/spam deletes or ahything like that. Just let the OP know how many people that didn't like his post...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience
Greg King
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I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!
Ron White, ComedianYes, that is a good idea, so if we don't want to implement something new, we can just turn on the down-voting without any minus points/deletes. just plain down-votes to tell the OP that we are not interested.
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I think the intentions behind the current system are clear. If a message is being reported as spam, then the member is a spammer, which should in fact get them banned. Unfortunately, incidents like this happen when people resort to reporting a message as they don't have any other means to vent their anger on an utterly nonsensical post. But then I've also seen that incidents like this are not very frequent, and when it does happen, our members get the unintentionally closed account reinstated. This is a fair trade to ensure that the actual spammers will get kicked out by the system really quick. I think everything is in order. :)
"Real men drive manual transmission" - Rajesh.
I agree, but we need something to let other know that we don't like certain threads. Because most of the time when you reply with dislike, it tends to offend them as it's just finger pointing. It seems, people are not learning anything from these life-learning-lessons. :-D Why do people think that they need to represent themselves as either funny or wise. I just hate this nonsense. :mad:
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Rajesh's idea of a "report message as crap" option seems like the perfect solution to me. It needn't do anything but count the number of reports, no minus points, no abuse/spam deletes or ahything like that. Just let the OP know how many people that didn't like his post...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience
Greg King
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I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!
Ron White, ComedianYou mean add back down voting? No. If you don't like something move on. If its inappropriate flag it. If you do like it give them an up vote. But no, I'm not going back to the days of down vote wars
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
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You mean add back down voting? No. If you don't like something move on. If its inappropriate flag it. If you do like it give them an up vote. But no, I'm not going back to the days of down vote wars
cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project | Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP
NO not quite - like downvoting but without point deduction. Like that, it does no harm, but still lets people know that you don't approve of their post. No war. There seems to be interest amongst the other members for a feature like that.
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience
Greg King
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