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Ed Gadziemski

Since not all of us are as fortunate as you in having a high-speed connection, how about summarizing what it's about?

Jason Henderson

David Wulff wrote: talk down to us in that tone. :wtf: I was actually complementing most CPians.

Jason Henderson
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David Wulff

You know what I mean. "are at least founded upon some logic", or, "they at least make the effort to try and present a believable case" - like those alien abductees or that woman that 'saw the light' and was interviewed on NBC. As I said before, if I read you wrong I apologise, but it doesn't logically read like anything else given the tone. IMO the "some" was not necessary, that is what gives the negative impression.

David Wulff

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Jason Henderson

Its kind of like when Jay Leno does is man on the street questions, except the questions were asked of the war protesters. The guy asking the questions is very civil and he is asking legitimate questions, like:

How much time should the inspections be given?
If war is not the answer, what do they think should be done?
etc...

But these people either dodged the questions, shouted at him, or stood there dumb founded.

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Jason Henderson

David Wulff wrote: IMO the "some" was not necessary, that is what gives the negative impression. You want me to say I think everyone here on CP logically states their case for or against war? I won't do that because its not true.

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Doug Goulden

I think that this video is positive proof that no matter how ignorant someone is they can still have an opinion (for whatever its worth). Wow .... :-D Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

David Wulff

*sigh* That is not what I said at all. My appology is there if you think it necessary. I have no interest in pursuing this any further.

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Chris Losinger

FYI, your .sig is giving me Javascript errors. -c

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Jason Henderson

When you click on a link or just everytime its displayed?

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Chris Losinger

sporadically, when it's displayed. (i think it's your's, it could be leaving someone else's, i guess) -c

When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.

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Jason Henderson

I just checked, and I don't have any javascript in my sig, but it does use some of CP's classes like HoverLink. Those could be causing the problem I guess.

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Paul Watson

Jason Henderson wrote: Most arguments against the potential war here on CP are at least founded upon some logic. These people scare me. At least all they have at their disposal are banners and placards. Not tanks, F16s, M16s, grenades, missiles, biological weapons and nuclear weapons. Or on the other hand suicide bombers, aeroplanes etc. War simply is not the answer. It cannot continue to be our answer. What I dislike most about the US right now is that it is not looking for other answers, not even trying. And there is no far reaching plan to make war the less likely answer in the future. It is madness.

Paul Watson
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Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er

Jason Henderson

Paul Watson wrote: War simply is not the answer. It cannot continue to be our answer. I understand your dislike of war, and I don't like it either, but I can't for the life of me figure out why war is not and cannot be the answer to some. Has the human condition changed that much in 50 years? Are we somehow less barbaric? There will always be evil in the world because humanity is inherently evil or at least has a propensity for doing evil. Until we can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that evil has been vanquished completely from human society, we cannot rule out War as a possible solution to opposing the whims of evil men.

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peterchen

But Paul you forget those with the biggest bombs are the smartest guys! :rolleyes: As the germans say, the dumbest farmer has the biggest potato, or something. No, wait...

If you go to war, you will destroy a great country a stoned greek chick to the richest man of the world
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Chris Austin

I'm wondering what are the long-term goals of this administration after they have their little war. So, I have a few questions myself. Are we still going to go after OBL? On an news site(yahoo news), one of the reports said that some believed the he was hiding in Iran. Are we going into there as well if it is indeed where he is hiding? What about rebuilding Afghanistan? Are we going to help build a solid infrastructure like we promised? quorum pars magna fui

Stan Shannon

Chris Austin wrote: one of the reports said that some believed the he was hiding in Iran. Are we going into there as well if it is indeed where he is hiding? Would you support that? "Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art." Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle

Paul Watson

Chris Austin wrote: What about rebuilding Afghanistan? Are we going to help build a solid infrastructure like we promised? Indeed. And where is the After Plan for Iraq? Who is going to take over? The UN should forget about stopping war because it is going to happen. It should be mounting a plan to go in afterwards and help the Iraqi people. Bigger mess on Bush' hands than he presently has. Those weapons are going to become even more available to terrorists once Saddam is gone. Ugh, it is all going to come unstuck.

Paul Watson
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Cape Town, South Africa

Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er

Chris Austin

Sure Stan, Looks like I read the news post wrong, it was other news about Iran, Iraq, and OBL in the same story. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=578&ncid=578&e=5&u=/nm/20030211/ts_nm/attack_cia_dc[^] But, if he is hiding in Pakistan like the official says he might be, why aren't we directing out might after him there? Why is SH more important than OBL? And, how many countries will we have to declare war on? Like I said, I'd like to see some long term plans. quorum pars magna fui

Chris Austin

Along the same lines, I am concerned about how many invasions our leaders will begin on this hunt for all that is wrong. "Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;" quorum pars magna fui

Jorgen Sigvardsson

Take a camera and shoot some interviews with people from the "other side", and you'll get equally idiotic interviews. :) - "Why should we bomb Iraq?" - "Duuuh.. because Bush says so? And they have something called WMD..." If you glance around, you'll find morons in all groups in society. All over the world. :) -- Chatai. Yana ra Yakana ro futisha ta?