EM pulse
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Except of course it means exactly what I said
No, it doesn't.
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"Meaning"?
A return to times before electronics and not just literally 100 years ago.
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flights of fantasy about historical times
I wouldn't know what your fantasies are but I have read a lot of historical books and yes, there were a lot of things that were better then. For example, the FoxFire books talk about a group of people in North Georgia during the Great Depression. They never knew it even was happening. It did not affect them in the slightest bit because they were independent. They knew how to do everything they needed. Today, our markets only have a 3 day food supply at any given time. One serious natural disaster/occurrence can really screw things up quickly. We are too dependent.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
No, it doesn't.
Yes it does "to be currently available for selling" http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/in+season[^]
RyanDev wrote:
A return to times before electronics and not just literally 100 years ago.
Keep track of the sub-thread. The sub-thread from specific quotes was literally about 100 years ago.
RyanDev wrote:
They never knew it even was happening
And there were people who managed to stay very wealthy during the same time period. However the great mass of humanity didn't. And so to claim that if one was somehow magically transported to then WITHOUT qualification and yet to claim that one is going to be enjoying benefits of some small group (presuming that there were in fact actual benefits) is simply ridiculous. You might as well claim that you are going to buy Australia right now, erect a giant wall and start growing all your own food without using any "chemicals". Makes just as much sense.
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Well I see you are a pessimist. Where I live they have been canning food for a couple of years (at least 100). The idea that you cannot produce what you need to survive is incorrect for everyone. Yes, large portions of the world would be in trouble. But I think things could work.
djj55 wrote:
Where I live they have been canning food for a couple of years (at least 100)
The very existence of humanity proves that humans have been successfully feeding themselves well enough to continue to breed for a very long time. However you said it would have in fact been "better" and you did not qualify that in any way. And there is no evidence at all that the human condition was in fact better and quite a bit that would suggest otherwise. However if you were to get into a time machine with a lot of gold then it is possible that you personally could have lived "better" than that you do now including the food you it. But that is quite a bit more qualified than the statement you originally made.
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And your ignorance goes back to my original comment.
Yes, that I have no clue what you are talking about. I admitted that in the beginning so why are we doing this? You are so silly. "Here we go round the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush, the mulberry bush.... " :zzz:
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
Yes, that I have no clue what you are talking about
Yet you introduced the topic on which this sub thread is based.
RyanDev wrote:
I admitted that in the beginning so why are we doing this?
I don't see any evidence of you doing this "in the beginning".
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RyanDev wrote:
No, it doesn't.
Yes it does "to be currently available for selling" http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/in+season[^]
RyanDev wrote:
A return to times before electronics and not just literally 100 years ago.
Keep track of the sub-thread. The sub-thread from specific quotes was literally about 100 years ago.
RyanDev wrote:
They never knew it even was happening
And there were people who managed to stay very wealthy during the same time period. However the great mass of humanity didn't. And so to claim that if one was somehow magically transported to then WITHOUT qualification and yet to claim that one is going to be enjoying benefits of some small group (presuming that there were in fact actual benefits) is simply ridiculous. You might as well claim that you are going to buy Australia right now, erect a giant wall and start growing all your own food without using any "chemicals". Makes just as much sense.
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Yes it does "to be currently available for selling"
Just one example, the tomato is picked unripe, green, then gassed so it turns red and shipped halfway across the world. If you are OK with that being called "in season" I won't argue with lunacy anymore.
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The sub-thread from specific quotes was literally about 100 years ago.
Yes, I already pointed out that is how you are taking it and can't seem to understand the principle of the conversation.
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And there were people who managed to stay very wealthy during the same time period.
How does that nullify what I said?
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However the great mass of humanity didn't.
So, because most of humanity was dependent on a broken system those that were doing it right are wrong? Seems logical. :doh:
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And so to claim that if one was somehow magically transported to then WITHOUT qualification and yet to claim that one is going to be enjoying benefits of some small group (presuming that there were in fact actual benefits) is simply ridiculous.
Agreed. Why did you think I was claiming that?
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You might as well claim that you are going to buy Australia right now,
No thanks. Too many criminals and big bugs.
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start growing all your own food without using any "chemicals".
You really need to do research before you go off on things you don't understand. Research homesteading and then come back.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote:
Yes, that I have no clue what you are talking about
Yet you introduced the topic on which this sub thread is based.
RyanDev wrote:
I admitted that in the beginning so why are we doing this?
I don't see any evidence of you doing this "in the beginning".
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Yet you introduced the topic
Go back and read it. The topic I introduced is pornography is evil and it is much more accessible now than in past. Then you seemed to want to go off on some tangent of its history and people getting beat up over it which I claimed I know nothing about. Perhaps you need to reread the thread to stay in context before responding because you're usually all over the place.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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djj55 wrote:
Where I live they have been canning food for a couple of years (at least 100)
The very existence of humanity proves that humans have been successfully feeding themselves well enough to continue to breed for a very long time. However you said it would have in fact been "better" and you did not qualify that in any way. And there is no evidence at all that the human condition was in fact better and quite a bit that would suggest otherwise. However if you were to get into a time machine with a lot of gold then it is possible that you personally could have lived "better" than that you do now including the food you it. But that is quite a bit more qualified than the statement you originally made.
I live in what is wrongly called the mid-west (Ohio river valley region). We do indeed grow all types of produce and raise animals. But as stated the conditions would be bad and I must likely would not be long in the world.
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Yes it does "to be currently available for selling"
Just one example, the tomato is picked unripe, green, then gassed so it turns red and shipped halfway across the world. If you are OK with that being called "in season" I won't argue with lunacy anymore.
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The sub-thread from specific quotes was literally about 100 years ago.
Yes, I already pointed out that is how you are taking it and can't seem to understand the principle of the conversation.
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And there were people who managed to stay very wealthy during the same time period.
How does that nullify what I said?
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However the great mass of humanity didn't.
So, because most of humanity was dependent on a broken system those that were doing it right are wrong? Seems logical. :doh:
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And so to claim that if one was somehow magically transported to then WITHOUT qualification and yet to claim that one is going to be enjoying benefits of some small group (presuming that there were in fact actual benefits) is simply ridiculous.
Agreed. Why did you think I was claiming that?
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You might as well claim that you are going to buy Australia right now,
No thanks. Too many criminals and big bugs.
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start growing all your own food without using any "chemicals".
You really need to do research before you go off on things you don't understand. Research homesteading and then come back.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
If you are OK with that being called "in season"
Since that is in fact the definition then I am certainly ok with it.
RyanDev wrote:
How does that nullify what I said?
You picked one extreme case I picked another. Neither are germane to the general question.
RyanDev wrote:
So, because most of humanity was dependent on a broken system those that were doing it right are wrong? Seems logical
Very logical because if one was in fact living then then the very high probability would be that they would be experiencing exactly what the vast majority of the population was. Simple math.
RyanDev wrote:
Research homesteading and then come back.
You really have no idea where this sub-thread started do you?
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I live in what is wrongly called the mid-west (Ohio river valley region). We do indeed grow all types of produce and raise animals. But as stated the conditions would be bad and I must likely would not be long in the world.
And there are very likely places in the world 100 years ago where the people there, on average, ate better than at least some groups of humans living now. But comparing the average human then to the average human now food is in fact much "better" for almost (and perhaps all) objective views of anything which applies to food.
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Yet you introduced the topic
Go back and read it. The topic I introduced is pornography is evil and it is much more accessible now than in past. Then you seemed to want to go off on some tangent of its history and people getting beat up over it which I claimed I know nothing about. Perhaps you need to reread the thread to stay in context before responding because you're usually all over the place.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
which I claimed I know nothing about.
You stated nothing in "the beginning" that indicated you had no knowledge of the history.
RyanDev wrote:
Perhaps you need to reread the thread to stay in context before responding because you're usually all over the place.
You made a statement, which I quoted, and provided a contrasting view with historical accuracy. If you don't feel your original statement was in fact in some way relevant then you shouldn't have made it.
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RyanDev wrote:
which I claimed I know nothing about.
You stated nothing in "the beginning" that indicated you had no knowledge of the history.
RyanDev wrote:
Perhaps you need to reread the thread to stay in context before responding because you're usually all over the place.
You made a statement, which I quoted, and provided a contrasting view with historical accuracy. If you don't feel your original statement was in fact in some way relevant then you shouldn't have made it.
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If you don't feel your original statement was in fact in some way relevant then you shouldn't have made it.
What in the world are you actually talking about?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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If you don't feel your original statement was in fact in some way relevant then you shouldn't have made it.
What in the world are you actually talking about?
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote:
What in the world are you actually talking about?
If you can't remember the thread then I suggest you re-read it.
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I sometimes wonder if a giant EM pulse took out everything in the world, would it be a better place? No computers, no cell phones. Would miss the transportation. [edit]Actually saw a documentary about this the other day[/edit]
Had battery trouble with the bike. :mad: I do miss the transportation.
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If you can't explain yourself then don't post.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Your inability to understand does not instantly translate into a problem for everyone else.
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I sometimes wonder if a giant EM pulse took out everything in the world, would it be a better place? No computers, no cell phones. Would miss the transportation. [edit]Actually saw a documentary about this the other day[/edit]
djj55 wrote:
I sometimes wonder if a giant EM pulse took out everything in the world, would it be a better place? No computers, no cell phones.
The answer is clearly no. Those are just amoral tools which do not make the world either good or bad. They goodness and badness is in the user. An since people will still exist, the world will not be any better or worse. In effect, the corrupt soul will still exist.
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Unfortunately, with most great advancements in technology there are wonderful things and then terrible things. For example, with the internet it is incredibly easy to get access to information. But at the same time pornography is pervasive as well. So, getting rid of it all would get rid of a lot of evil but would also get rid of a lot of good.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
RyanDev wrote:
For example, with the internet it is incredibly easy to get access to information. But at the same time pornography is pervasive as well.
I'm not seeing the terrible thing?
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RyanDev wrote:
For example, with the internet it is incredibly easy to get access to information. But at the same time pornography is pervasive as well.
I'm not seeing the terrible thing?
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I'm not seeing the terrible thing?
Glad to hear that you aren't watching porn. :)
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
Not at the moment, but +1 for the wit.