Ban Guns
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It makes no sense to ban guns from a building. With the exception of places where alcohol is served, when was the last shooting where someone just happened to have a gun decided to pull it out and use it? I know that guns are not permitted in the navel yard building where the guy murdered several people. That did not stop him. Banning guns is like saying do not fart, if someone wants to, it will happen.
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It makes no sense to ban guns from a building. With the exception of places where alcohol is served, when was the last shooting where someone just happened to have a gun decided to pull it out and use it? I know that guns are not permitted in the navel yard building where the guy murdered several people. That did not stop him. Banning guns is like saying do not fart, if someone wants to, it will happen.
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do not fart, if someone wants to, it will happen.
Ya, only by uncivilized pigs. :) The government doesn't have any real interest in doing what's right, it's just interested in control.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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It makes no sense to ban guns from a building. With the exception of places where alcohol is served, when was the last shooting where someone just happened to have a gun decided to pull it out and use it? I know that guns are not permitted in the navel yard building where the guy murdered several people. That did not stop him. Banning guns is like saying do not fart, if someone wants to, it will happen.
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Banning guns is like saying do not fart, if someone wants to, it will happen.
Gun control arguments aside, this kind of logic in any argument always baffles me. Speed limits are dumb, if someone wants to speed they will. There's no reason for a law against drinking and driving, if someone wants to do it they will. Murder shouldn't be illegal, if someone wants to kill another person they will. It's pointless to make littering against the law, I see people throw stuff out of their car all the time. Just because people are willing to break a law doesn't negate the reason for, or the validity of, the law.
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Banning guns is like saying do not fart, if someone wants to, it will happen.
Gun control arguments aside, this kind of logic in any argument always baffles me. Speed limits are dumb, if someone wants to speed they will. There's no reason for a law against drinking and driving, if someone wants to do it they will. Murder shouldn't be illegal, if someone wants to kill another person they will. It's pointless to make littering against the law, I see people throw stuff out of their car all the time. Just because people are willing to break a law doesn't negate the reason for, or the validity of, the law.
My logic is flawed, but it is true, make all the laws you want they will not stop anything. This is not to say it will not reduce a problem, but it will not end the problem.
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My logic is flawed, but it is true, make all the laws you want they will not stop anything. This is not to say it will not reduce a problem, but it will not end the problem.
I agree that any given law will never 100% solve a problem. But either you think laws help when dealing with a problem, or you think all laws should be thrown out. In general when this type of argument comes up it tends to be because the person doesn't want that law because it will impact their life or apply to them in some way. For (ridiculous) example, a person might be fine with a law restricting the purchase of high end sports cars, but that's fine because they don't own nor want one. That person might completely rebel against a law saying you can't put a sweater on your dog, and it turns out they own 3 dogs and 300 dog sweaters. By and large we're a society of laws. They don't solve crime, but they do outline what we think is acceptable as a society. That's the real purpose of laws isn't it? Defining the currently acceptable norms and moral boundaries of a culture. The criminals will break them, and in theory, get punished for doing so. But it amounts to "do we think it is ok for a drunk person to drive?" No? Then make it against the law.
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It makes no sense to ban guns from a building. With the exception of places where alcohol is served, when was the last shooting where someone just happened to have a gun decided to pull it out and use it? I know that guns are not permitted in the navel yard building where the guy murdered several people. That did not stop him. Banning guns is like saying do not fart, if someone wants to, it will happen.
djj55 wrote:
when was the last shooting where someone just happened to have a gun decided to pull it out and use it?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2401297/Eight-year-old-shoots-caregiver-87-playing-Grand-Theft-Auto-says-accident.html[^]
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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djj55 wrote:
when was the last shooting where someone just happened to have a gun decided to pull it out and use it?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2401297/Eight-year-old-shoots-caregiver-87-playing-Grand-Theft-Auto-says-accident.html[^]
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
If the gun owner did the shooting, then that would be what I said. A kid using his grandmothers gun is not the same. Also the grandmother should not have had the gun where a kid could get and use it.
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If the gun owner did the shooting, then that would be what I said. A kid using his grandmothers gun is not the same. Also the grandmother should not have had the gun where a kid could get and use it.
You said "It makes no sense to ban guns from a building." however, in this (and other) cases, banning guns from that building would have prevented a death.
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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You said "It makes no sense to ban guns from a building." however, in this (and other) cases, banning guns from that building would have prevented a death.
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
Remember I stated that guns WERE banned from the building. Made no difference.
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Remember I stated that guns WERE banned from the building. Made no difference.
Made no difference in that case - would have made a difference in other cases. This comes down to the same boring old argument that there's no point legislating xyz because people (esp. criminal types) will break the rule anyway. It's a stoopid argument.
MVVM # - I did it My Way ___________________________________________ Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011 .\\axxx (That's an 'M')
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It makes no sense to ban guns from a building. With the exception of places where alcohol is served, when was the last shooting where someone just happened to have a gun decided to pull it out and use it? I know that guns are not permitted in the navel yard building where the guy murdered several people. That did not stop him. Banning guns is like saying do not fart, if someone wants to, it will happen.
djj55 wrote:
It makes no sense to ban guns from a building. With the exception of places where alcohol is served,
Many British pubs had a rifle range inside them, as a response to poor shooting during the Boer War: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/9489794/Pint-to-Pint-The-Lamb-Inn-Devizes-Wiltshire.html[^]
