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  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

    <just-got-out-of-bed-rant> Slashdot wrote: friday2k writes "There is an interesting writeup[^] at SecurityFocus that puts the latest security 'hole' in XP into perspective. It is a worthy read and should remind us all of the real issues out there." And it collects into one place much of the flak I caught after posting about the claimed security hole[^] opened by the XP Recovery Console. Once again I get proof that Slashdot is run by total idiots. They needed an article1 to tell them that this isn't a security hole? They needed an article to tell them that if you have unlimited physical access to a machine, you're screwed? These people aren't bringing news anymore than a british tabloid is. They're this big link collecting machine which publish the links on a rather ugly website, mixed with some "Linux rules, Microsoft sucks because... ahm. they suck?" comments. What if they actually used some talent to write high quality articles? And then we have the posters on Slashdot. Kids who have obviously never had to make a living. And if a poster would write something of value, they're modded down as trolls because the kids can't tolerate that there are flaws with their favorite penguin operating system or that Microsoft has done something good worth mentioning. The Slashdot banner should read "Link tabloid for people with an operating system complex", not "News for Nerds". 1 Pffft. Yeah right, as if these morons would know what an article is. Maybe they should visit CP? </just-got-out-of-bed-rant> I'm not in a good mood. :( I've got a nasty head ache, stretched muscle and on top of that I have to work. -- Uh huh. Yeah.

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    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: And if a poster would write something of value, they're modded down as trolls because the kids can't tolerate that there are flaws with their favorite penguin operating system or that Microsoft has done something good worth mentioning. <my rant>A similar thing happens here too, in political discussions. If you write something that doesn't go well with the shall-go-unnamed crowd, you are obviously an idiot and a troll, and get modded down. You are not worth even a reply, you won't get a chance to defend yourself and your point of view, and "not everyone has the time nor the mood to 'generate a discussion'". So they find it better and easier to vote the post a 1. Never mind what the poster had to say. Sometimes it was troll, sometimes it wasn't. But how does that matter? All that matters is whether or not people agree with what you are saying. That's what happens when everyone gets a chance to vote. Abuse. But the alternative, restricting the power to vote to only a few people isn't too good either; and just because a person is gold or silver or even platinum doesn't make them infallible. I've seen instances when some platinum member (I know he was platinum because of the effect it had on ratings) voted someone a 1, when the post was fine otherwise. Others rated it high, but the platinum member thought it deserved only a 1, because he didn't agree with the content. I don't know what the solution is. :| </my rant> There, I wanted to rant too. :-D
    Regards,

    Rohit Sinha

    Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
    - Abraham Lincoln

    The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
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    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

      <just-got-out-of-bed-rant> Slashdot wrote: friday2k writes "There is an interesting writeup[^] at SecurityFocus that puts the latest security 'hole' in XP into perspective. It is a worthy read and should remind us all of the real issues out there." And it collects into one place much of the flak I caught after posting about the claimed security hole[^] opened by the XP Recovery Console. Once again I get proof that Slashdot is run by total idiots. They needed an article1 to tell them that this isn't a security hole? They needed an article to tell them that if you have unlimited physical access to a machine, you're screwed? These people aren't bringing news anymore than a british tabloid is. They're this big link collecting machine which publish the links on a rather ugly website, mixed with some "Linux rules, Microsoft sucks because... ahm. they suck?" comments. What if they actually used some talent to write high quality articles? And then we have the posters on Slashdot. Kids who have obviously never had to make a living. And if a poster would write something of value, they're modded down as trolls because the kids can't tolerate that there are flaws with their favorite penguin operating system or that Microsoft has done something good worth mentioning. The Slashdot banner should read "Link tabloid for people with an operating system complex", not "News for Nerds". 1 Pffft. Yeah right, as if these morons would know what an article is. Maybe they should visit CP? </just-got-out-of-bed-rant> I'm not in a good mood. :( I've got a nasty head ache, stretched muscle and on top of that I have to work. -- Uh huh. Yeah.

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      Well said. I only go to /. these days for the comic relief. There certainly appears to be a "group-think" mentality over there. One sarcastic comment I read there, on the topic of MS having won a prize at a recent LinuxWorld (I think) event was "Ok MS sucks but this time they don't...I'm confused, quick, tell me what to think!!". hehe, I love good satire :-) ASP.NET can never fail as working with it is like fitting bras to supermodels - it's one pleasure after the next - David Wulff

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        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: And if a poster would write something of value, they're modded down as trolls because the kids can't tolerate that there are flaws with their favorite penguin operating system or that Microsoft has done something good worth mentioning. <my rant>A similar thing happens here too, in political discussions. If you write something that doesn't go well with the shall-go-unnamed crowd, you are obviously an idiot and a troll, and get modded down. You are not worth even a reply, you won't get a chance to defend yourself and your point of view, and "not everyone has the time nor the mood to 'generate a discussion'". So they find it better and easier to vote the post a 1. Never mind what the poster had to say. Sometimes it was troll, sometimes it wasn't. But how does that matter? All that matters is whether or not people agree with what you are saying. That's what happens when everyone gets a chance to vote. Abuse. But the alternative, restricting the power to vote to only a few people isn't too good either; and just because a person is gold or silver or even platinum doesn't make them infallible. I've seen instances when some platinum member (I know he was platinum because of the effect it had on ratings) voted someone a 1, when the post was fine otherwise. Others rated it high, but the platinum member thought it deserved only a 1, because he didn't agree with the content. I don't know what the solution is. :| </my rant> There, I wanted to rant too. :-D
        Regards,

        Rohit Sinha

        Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
        - Abraham Lincoln

        The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
        - Anonymous

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        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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        Rohit Sinha wrote: I don't know what the solution is. Sadly, I don't think there is a solution. In the end, there can be no total fairness for a larger group of people - especially if the group is ethnically and culturally diverse. Either one accepts that the fact that there can be no fair solution for all, or we adopt the java strategy - largest common denominator = crap for everyone. :) Rohit Sinha wrote: There, I wanted to rant too. Feels good to exercise your rights, doesn't it?* * For one point, name the movie (produced in 1993) from which I stole this line. For an additional bonus point, name the band (from Vancouver Canada) which uses this sample in one of their songs. :-D -- Uh huh. Yeah.

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          Well said. I only go to /. these days for the comic relief. There certainly appears to be a "group-think" mentality over there. One sarcastic comment I read there, on the topic of MS having won a prize at a recent LinuxWorld (I think) event was "Ok MS sucks but this time they don't...I'm confused, quick, tell me what to think!!". hehe, I love good satire :-) ASP.NET can never fail as working with it is like fitting bras to supermodels - it's one pleasure after the next - David Wulff

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          I basically just scan for links to follow. Occasionally I read the crap between the links. :( -- Uh huh. Yeah.

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            I basically just scan for links to follow. Occasionally I read the crap between the links. :( -- Uh huh. Yeah.

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            Yeah. I used to read the comments, but the level of stupid stuff compared to the number of useful comments just seems to go up all the time. In the end of the day, Slashdot is just someone's personal blog with a "submit cool links" option. It's often good at pointing out current news stories because of this, but rarely adds anything extra -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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            • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

              Rohit Sinha wrote: I don't know what the solution is. Sadly, I don't think there is a solution. In the end, there can be no total fairness for a larger group of people - especially if the group is ethnically and culturally diverse. Either one accepts that the fact that there can be no fair solution for all, or we adopt the java strategy - largest common denominator = crap for everyone. :) Rohit Sinha wrote: There, I wanted to rant too. Feels good to exercise your rights, doesn't it?* * For one point, name the movie (produced in 1993) from which I stole this line. For an additional bonus point, name the band (from Vancouver Canada) which uses this sample in one of their songs. :-D -- Uh huh. Yeah.

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              Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: In the end, there can be no total fairness for a larger group of people - especially if the group is ethnically and culturally diverse. Yes, you are right I think. Maybe the current system is the best possible solution under the circumstances. Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Feels good to exercise your rights, doesn't it?* Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: * For one point, name the movie (produced in 1993) from which I stole this line. For an additional bonus point, name the band (from Vancouver Canada) which uses this sample in one of their songs. I lost on both the points. But I'll try to make up for it by saying that I like it. :)
              Regards,

              Rohit Sinha

              Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
              - Abraham Lincoln

              The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
              - Anonymous

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                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: In the end, there can be no total fairness for a larger group of people - especially if the group is ethnically and culturally diverse. Yes, you are right I think. Maybe the current system is the best possible solution under the circumstances. Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: Feels good to exercise your rights, doesn't it?* Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: * For one point, name the movie (produced in 1993) from which I stole this line. For an additional bonus point, name the band (from Vancouver Canada) which uses this sample in one of their songs. I lost on both the points. But I'll try to make up for it by saying that I like it. :)
                Regards,

                Rohit Sinha

                Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
                - Abraham Lincoln

                The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
                - Anonymous

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                Rohit Sinha wrote: Maybe the current system is the best possible solution under the circumstances. I'd like to say so too. The 1 voters will always be out there. Let's just not sink to their level. :) Rohit Sinha wrote: I lost on both the points. But I'll try to make up for it by saying that I like it. Hehe, 1/2 point awarded! :) The movie is Falling Down[^] and the band is Front Line Assembly. I recommend both. :) -- Uh huh. Yeah.

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                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                  <just-got-out-of-bed-rant> Slashdot wrote: friday2k writes "There is an interesting writeup[^] at SecurityFocus that puts the latest security 'hole' in XP into perspective. It is a worthy read and should remind us all of the real issues out there." And it collects into one place much of the flak I caught after posting about the claimed security hole[^] opened by the XP Recovery Console. Once again I get proof that Slashdot is run by total idiots. They needed an article1 to tell them that this isn't a security hole? They needed an article to tell them that if you have unlimited physical access to a machine, you're screwed? These people aren't bringing news anymore than a british tabloid is. They're this big link collecting machine which publish the links on a rather ugly website, mixed with some "Linux rules, Microsoft sucks because... ahm. they suck?" comments. What if they actually used some talent to write high quality articles? And then we have the posters on Slashdot. Kids who have obviously never had to make a living. And if a poster would write something of value, they're modded down as trolls because the kids can't tolerate that there are flaws with their favorite penguin operating system or that Microsoft has done something good worth mentioning. The Slashdot banner should read "Link tabloid for people with an operating system complex", not "News for Nerds". 1 Pffft. Yeah right, as if these morons would know what an article is. Maybe they should visit CP? </just-got-out-of-bed-rant> I'm not in a good mood. :( I've got a nasty head ache, stretched muscle and on top of that I have to work. -- Uh huh. Yeah.

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                  Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: And if a poster would write something of value, they're modded down as trolls because the kids can't tolerate that there are flaws with their favorite penguin operating system or that Microsoft has done something good worth mentioning. i think you're a little over the top on this one. i read /. daily and the people there just aren't that dumb. i see a lot of pro-MS posts, and posts that say negative but true things about *nix that are modded all the way up. yes, there are some knee-jerk anti-MS people there, but unless they're funny, their posts tend to earn a "troll" rating pretty quickly. -c

                  When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.

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                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: And if a poster would write something of value, they're modded down as trolls because the kids can't tolerate that there are flaws with their favorite penguin operating system or that Microsoft has done something good worth mentioning. <my rant>A similar thing happens here too, in political discussions. If you write something that doesn't go well with the shall-go-unnamed crowd, you are obviously an idiot and a troll, and get modded down. You are not worth even a reply, you won't get a chance to defend yourself and your point of view, and "not everyone has the time nor the mood to 'generate a discussion'". So they find it better and easier to vote the post a 1. Never mind what the poster had to say. Sometimes it was troll, sometimes it wasn't. But how does that matter? All that matters is whether or not people agree with what you are saying. That's what happens when everyone gets a chance to vote. Abuse. But the alternative, restricting the power to vote to only a few people isn't too good either; and just because a person is gold or silver or even platinum doesn't make them infallible. I've seen instances when some platinum member (I know he was platinum because of the effect it had on ratings) voted someone a 1, when the post was fine otherwise. Others rated it high, but the platinum member thought it deserved only a 1, because he didn't agree with the content. I don't know what the solution is. :| </my rant> There, I wanted to rant too. :-D
                    Regards,

                    Rohit Sinha

                    Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
                    - Abraham Lincoln

                    The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
                    - Anonymous

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                    Rohit, You seem to really care about how people vote, and why they vote, and whether or not they should vote, and whether voting should also be accompanied by an explanation, as to generate further discussion. Dude, it's not a big deal! The voting system is there, and people use it in different ways. Some people use it well, some misuse it, and others don't even bother. Bottom line, it doesn't (or shouldn't) impact anything. At the end of the day the number of votes you get is meaningless. Someone giving you a 1 makes as much difference as someone giving you a 5. Chris is not going to reward us one way or the other. So just relax and let the system live. Vote when you feel like it, however you feel like it, and let everyone else do the same. :rose: Regards, Alvaro

                    The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. -- Albert Einstein

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                      Rohit, You seem to really care about how people vote, and why they vote, and whether or not they should vote, and whether voting should also be accompanied by an explanation, as to generate further discussion. Dude, it's not a big deal! The voting system is there, and people use it in different ways. Some people use it well, some misuse it, and others don't even bother. Bottom line, it doesn't (or shouldn't) impact anything. At the end of the day the number of votes you get is meaningless. Someone giving you a 1 makes as much difference as someone giving you a 5. Chris is not going to reward us one way or the other. So just relax and let the system live. Vote when you feel like it, however you feel like it, and let everyone else do the same. :rose: Regards, Alvaro

                      The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. -- Albert Einstein

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                      :) Yes you are right. Maybe I am getting a bit too concerned over this issue. LOL, a while back I said more or less the same thing that you did to me to someone else. But it does upset me a bit when I see a messages posted in perfectly good faith rated down for no apparent reason. But I'll take your advice and stop myself from getting too hung up on the ratings.
                      Regards,

                      Rohit Sinha

                      Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
                      - Abraham Lincoln

                      The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
                      - Anonymous

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                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                        <just-got-out-of-bed-rant> Slashdot wrote: friday2k writes "There is an interesting writeup[^] at SecurityFocus that puts the latest security 'hole' in XP into perspective. It is a worthy read and should remind us all of the real issues out there." And it collects into one place much of the flak I caught after posting about the claimed security hole[^] opened by the XP Recovery Console. Once again I get proof that Slashdot is run by total idiots. They needed an article1 to tell them that this isn't a security hole? They needed an article to tell them that if you have unlimited physical access to a machine, you're screwed? These people aren't bringing news anymore than a british tabloid is. They're this big link collecting machine which publish the links on a rather ugly website, mixed with some "Linux rules, Microsoft sucks because... ahm. they suck?" comments. What if they actually used some talent to write high quality articles? And then we have the posters on Slashdot. Kids who have obviously never had to make a living. And if a poster would write something of value, they're modded down as trolls because the kids can't tolerate that there are flaws with their favorite penguin operating system or that Microsoft has done something good worth mentioning. The Slashdot banner should read "Link tabloid for people with an operating system complex", not "News for Nerds". 1 Pffft. Yeah right, as if these morons would know what an article is. Maybe they should visit CP? </just-got-out-of-bed-rant> I'm not in a good mood. :( I've got a nasty head ache, stretched muscle and on top of that I have to work. -- Uh huh. Yeah.

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                        Slashdot gets a *lot* of posts, from a *lot* of people. And so, of course, most of them are crap. But if you have time to search out the good ones, it can be worthwhile. As for the whole deal with XP and a boot CD, the same story was posted here a while back, and also garnered comments of various quality. Anyone worth their salt already knows what XP security - or 2K security, or Linux security - is worth when an attacker has physical access to the system. Anyone else is still running a virus scanner and clicking strange file attachments in Outlook.

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