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Microsoft confirms Windows RT will die

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    Kent Sharkey
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    Computerworld[^]:

    Microsoft has finally said what most of the world has already guessed: Windows RT will die. It won't happen right away, but there's no doubt now that it's in the cards.

    Maybe. Eventually.

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      Computerworld[^]:

      Microsoft has finally said what most of the world has already guessed: Windows RT will die. It won't happen right away, but there's no doubt now that it's in the cards.

      Maybe. Eventually.

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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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      According to sales it's never borned...

      I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is (V).

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        Computerworld[^]:

        Microsoft has finally said what most of the world has already guessed: Windows RT will die. It won't happen right away, but there's no doubt now that it's in the cards.

        Maybe. Eventually.

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        Have they actually said it's metro/RT that will die? All the Koolaid since 8.0 first leaked was that the plan was for the classic desktop to eventually die. Metro and WindowsPhone8 are similar enough to merge; but doing the same with desktop and WP8 is probably impossible without totally replacing both. With MS stating that:

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        "We should have one set of developer APIs on all of our devices. And all of the apps we bring to end users should be available on all of our devices."

        The conclusion that makes the most sense to me is that MS is still doubling down on Metro and intending to kill the classic desktop.

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          Have they actually said it's metro/RT that will die? All the Koolaid since 8.0 first leaked was that the plan was for the classic desktop to eventually die. Metro and WindowsPhone8 are similar enough to merge; but doing the same with desktop and WP8 is probably impossible without totally replacing both. With MS stating that:

          Quote:

          "We should have one set of developer APIs on all of our devices. And all of the apps we bring to end users should be available on all of our devices."

          The conclusion that makes the most sense to me is that MS is still doubling down on Metro and intending to kill the classic desktop.

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          Dan Neely wrote:

          The conclusion that makes the most sense to me is that MS is still doubling down on Metro and intending to kill the classic desktop.

          Yes, agreed, but that's metro, not RT. I think they are barrelling ahead with attempting to kill the classic desktop and shoving some sort of metrodeskual version, but using a Win8 core (minwin) ported to ARM/whatever the phone uses. Of course, she very well could have meant that the one version they'll keep is the RT version, but that would just be silly. As the main Win8 is also the main server OS, I can't imagine them trying to force administrators to work with an RT-style "one (and a half) app at a time" model.

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            Dan Neely wrote:

            The conclusion that makes the most sense to me is that MS is still doubling down on Metro and intending to kill the classic desktop.

            Yes, agreed, but that's metro, not RT. I think they are barrelling ahead with attempting to kill the classic desktop and shoving some sort of metrodeskual version, but using a Win8 core (minwin) ported to ARM/whatever the phone uses. Of course, she very well could have meant that the one version they'll keep is the RT version, but that would just be silly. As the main Win8 is also the main server OS, I can't imagine them trying to force administrators to work with an RT-style "one (and a half) app at a time" model.

            -------------- TTFN - Kent

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            Killing the desktop is a win by default for RT because all windows systems will have the same capabilities as RT does. RT's failing now because of not having desktop apps. Once the desktop is dead if your windows computers CPU says AMD, Intel, Qualcom, or Samsung fundamentally won't matter any more than if your PC currently says either of the first two or your phone/tablet says any of the last three.

            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              According to sales it's never borned...

              I'm not questioning your powers of observation; I'm merely remarking upon the paradox of asking a masked man who he is (V).

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              Yes I thought that myself!

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                Computerworld[^]:

                Microsoft has finally said what most of the world has already guessed: Windows RT will die. It won't happen right away, but there's no doubt now that it's in the cards.

                Maybe. Eventually.

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                They should have introduced it from the beginning as a way to write store apps and/or desktop apps. i.e. They should have made the WinRT technology work for either environment and not locked everything so tightly into the store apps and metro environment (yes there are addons that let those run in the desktop). The desktop application is not going to die. Put simply, the big blocky full-screen metro look and feel and user experience doesn't provide whats needed for all apps. There will still be a need for regular desktop applications. Just like everything is not a web app, everything is not a full screen touchscreen over-simplified app either. It is yet another example of "the new way of doing things" introduced by MS later to be killed off. Was always surprised to see people write about WinRT and metro as though it was replacing existing technologies. It didn't replace anything it just added something for store apps but did nothing to satisfy what is needed for regular desktop apps.

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                  Computerworld[^]:

                  Microsoft has finally said what most of the world has already guessed: Windows RT will die. It won't happen right away, but there's no doubt now that it's in the cards.

                  Maybe. Eventually.

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                  I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I see pro-W8 "don't-call-it-Metro" articles like Scott Hanselman's "Run more apps and show more tiles[^]" blog post. Wow, you can see three apps at once on a 1080p screen? That's, like, totes amazeballs. It's not as if there are any screen-shots from Windows 1.0 showing four apps running at the same time or anything. Oh, wait: there are[^].


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                    I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I see pro-W8 "don't-call-it-Metro" articles like Scott Hanselman's "Run more apps and show more tiles[^]" blog post. Wow, you can see three apps at once on a 1080p screen? That's, like, totes amazeballs. It's not as if there are any screen-shots from Windows 1.0 showing four apps running at the same time or anything. Oh, wait: there are[^].


                    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                    :) I suppose they should of called it Retro instead of Metro :)

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