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Programmers without TDD will be unemployable by 2022

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    Kent Sharkey
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    DZone[^]:

    This is not a new prediction, it is a prediction I’ve been making verbally for a couple of years but I’ve never put it on the record so here goes: 'By 2022 it will be not be possible to get a professional programming job if you do not practice TDD routinely.' I started making this prediction a couple of years ago when I said: “In ten years time”, sometimes when I’ve repeated the prediction I’ve stuck to 10-years, other times I’ve compensated and said 9-years or 8-years. I might be out slightly - if anything I think it will happen sooner rather than later, 2022 might be conservative.

    "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future."

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      DZone[^]:

      This is not a new prediction, it is a prediction I’ve been making verbally for a couple of years but I’ve never put it on the record so here goes: 'By 2022 it will be not be possible to get a professional programming job if you do not practice TDD routinely.' I started making this prediction a couple of years ago when I said: “In ten years time”, sometimes when I’ve repeated the prediction I’ve stuck to 10-years, other times I’ve compensated and said 9-years or 8-years. I might be out slightly - if anything I think it will happen sooner rather than later, 2022 might be conservative.

      "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future."

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      I am willing to bet that most of the IT managers in big companies do not even know what TDD stands for and I doubt that all of them will by 2022...

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        I am willing to bet that most of the IT managers in big companies do not even know what TDD stands for and I doubt that all of them will by 2022...

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        Pualee
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        And for those that do, they have little idea if it is really occurring, or if the tests are being added after the fact. (what's our unit coverage percent?)

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          DZone[^]:

          This is not a new prediction, it is a prediction I’ve been making verbally for a couple of years but I’ve never put it on the record so here goes: 'By 2022 it will be not be possible to get a professional programming job if you do not practice TDD routinely.' I started making this prediction a couple of years ago when I said: “In ten years time”, sometimes when I’ve repeated the prediction I’ve stuck to 10-years, other times I’ve compensated and said 9-years or 8-years. I might be out slightly - if anything I think it will happen sooner rather than later, 2022 might be conservative.

          "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future."

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          R Giskard Reventlov
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          Complete bollocks.

          "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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            Complete bollocks.

            "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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            Kent Sharkey
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            I was thinking of using 'O RLY?' for the blurb, but I think that meme has worn itself out. Nice thing about opinions though, everyone's got them, many of them silly.

            -------------- TTFN - Kent

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              I was thinking of using 'O RLY?' for the blurb, but I think that meme has worn itself out. Nice thing about opinions though, everyone's got them, many of them silly.

              -------------- TTFN - Kent

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              R Giskard Reventlov
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              Indeed.

              "If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair. Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection nils illegitimus carborundum me, me, me me, in pictures

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                DZone[^]:

                This is not a new prediction, it is a prediction I’ve been making verbally for a couple of years but I’ve never put it on the record so here goes: 'By 2022 it will be not be possible to get a professional programming job if you do not practice TDD routinely.' I started making this prediction a couple of years ago when I said: “In ten years time”, sometimes when I’ve repeated the prediction I’ve stuck to 10-years, other times I’ve compensated and said 9-years or 8-years. I might be out slightly - if anything I think it will happen sooner rather than later, 2022 might be conservative.

                "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future."

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                buzzword is buzzing someone get a flyswatter

                image processing toolkits | batch image processing

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                  DZone[^]:

                  This is not a new prediction, it is a prediction I’ve been making verbally for a couple of years but I’ve never put it on the record so here goes: 'By 2022 it will be not be possible to get a professional programming job if you do not practice TDD routinely.' I started making this prediction a couple of years ago when I said: “In ten years time”, sometimes when I’ve repeated the prediction I’ve stuck to 10-years, other times I’ve compensated and said 9-years or 8-years. I might be out slightly - if anything I think it will happen sooner rather than later, 2022 might be conservative.

                  "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future."

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                  Marc Clifton
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                  By 2022 TDD will be a footnote on Wikipedia. Marc

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                    DZone[^]:

                    This is not a new prediction, it is a prediction I’ve been making verbally for a couple of years but I’ve never put it on the record so here goes: 'By 2022 it will be not be possible to get a professional programming job if you do not practice TDD routinely.' I started making this prediction a couple of years ago when I said: “In ten years time”, sometimes when I’ve repeated the prediction I’ve stuck to 10-years, other times I’ve compensated and said 9-years or 8-years. I might be out slightly - if anything I think it will happen sooner rather than later, 2022 might be conservative.

                    "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future."

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                    Duncan Edwards Jones
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                    It will never replace MDD (Mortgage driven development - the code you write because you are paid to)

                    '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Free eBook: Printing - a .NET Developer's Guide (Part 1)

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                      It will never replace MDD (Mortgage driven development - the code you write because you are paid to)

                      '--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Free eBook: Printing - a .NET Developer's Guide (Part 1)

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                      Kent Sharkey
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                      The kind of coding that (sadly) never goes out of fashion! :thumbsup:

                      -------------- TTFN - Kent

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                        I was thinking of using 'O RLY?' for the blurb, but I think that meme has worn itself out. Nice thing about opinions though, everyone's got them, many of them silly.

                        -------------- TTFN - Kent

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                        Kent Sharkey wrote:

                        Nice thing about opinions though, everyone's got them, many of them silly.

                        Ehr, no. An opinion is something one forms. What's common is to present some random personal preference as an "opinion". Statements like "without tech X you'll be out of" are indeed simply cow-dung. I'll bet a banana that there'll even be someone asking for VB6-programmers.

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                          Kent Sharkey wrote:

                          Nice thing about opinions though, everyone's got them, many of them silly.

                          Ehr, no. An opinion is something one forms. What's common is to present some random personal preference as an "opinion". Statements like "without tech X you'll be out of" are indeed simply cow-dung. I'll bet a banana that there'll even be someone asking for VB6-programmers.

                          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                          Kent Sharkey
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                          Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                          What's common is to present some random personal preference as an "opinion".

                          Potato, potato, but *that* is an opinion (as in a personal preference, etc). But yeah, 2022 there will still be PL/1 developers happily clumping along somewhere. And VB6, and TDD, and whatever replaces TDD as THE. ONE. TRUE. WAY. Saying it will be a requirement for employment is just a licence to have people make fun of him.

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                            DZone[^]:

                            This is not a new prediction, it is a prediction I’ve been making verbally for a couple of years but I’ve never put it on the record so here goes: 'By 2022 it will be not be possible to get a professional programming job if you do not practice TDD routinely.' I started making this prediction a couple of years ago when I said: “In ten years time”, sometimes when I’ve repeated the prediction I’ve stuck to 10-years, other times I’ve compensated and said 9-years or 8-years. I might be out slightly - if anything I think it will happen sooner rather than later, 2022 might be conservative.

                            "Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future."

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                            Dennis E White
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                            the problem with this prediction is that it doesn't take into account all of the "dead" programming languages that will most likely still be churning. I doubt that COBOL developers will be embracing the concept of TDD.

                            you want something inspirational??

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                              the problem with this prediction is that it doesn't take into account all of the "dead" programming languages that will most likely still be churning. I doubt that COBOL developers will be embracing the concept of TDD.

                              you want something inspirational??

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                              Kent Sharkey
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                              Exactly. If he had said, "If you're working on mainstream apps (probably just web apps), TDD will be required by 2022" I'd feel less like mocking him. Hmm. Now you have me thinking if it's even a thing. AAAAAAAAH! Burn it! Burn it with fire![^]. Seems it's a thing.

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