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  • S Sentenryu

    I just can't get myself to tolerate vi, maybe because my only contact with it was on a old debian distro on my SO class, but the ammount of work needed to edit a simple 2 line key:value file threw me off.

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    Pete OHanlon
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    I started off my professional programming career using vi as my editor. Ah, for the days of :wq.

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      I started off my professional programming career using vi as my editor. Ah, for the days of :wq.

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      Sentenryu
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      that really sounds like pain, but it's painfull to deal with IDE bugs and slowdowns too, so maybe you're right :^)

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      • S Sentenryu

        that really sounds like pain, but it's painfull to deal with IDE bugs and slowdowns too, so maybe you're right :^)

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        Pete OHanlon
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        We didn't have IDE's on Unix systems when I started. I'm, what's the word I'm looking for? Oh yes, I'm old.

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        • T Tsuda Kageyu

          My co-worker was struggling with a bug in an old C++ program.

          // Sometimes carry out the work \
          if (flag) {
          SomeWork();
          }

          SomeWork() was called regardless of the value of flag. It took her a few hours to find a backslash at the end of the comment.

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          Pablo Aliskevicius
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          The compilers I've used give a warning in cases like this. JM2B,

          Pablo. "Accident: An inevitable occurrence due to the action of immutable natural laws." (Ambrose Bierce, circa 1899). "You are to act in the light of experience as guided by intelligence" (Rex Stout, "In the Best Families", 1950).

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          • P Pete OHanlon

            I started off my professional programming career using vi as my editor. Ah, for the days of :wq.

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            Chris Quinn
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            A good while ago I worked in a department where we did software development on both MSDos and Unix boxes. On the Dos boxes we used a realy good text editor called MultiEdit. One developer asked if I could get him MultiEdit for Unix - I replied no, but said that I couod get him vi for Dos - he nearly punched me!

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              We didn't have IDE's on Unix systems when I started. I'm, what's the word I'm looking for? Oh yes, I'm old.

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              Nagy Vilmos
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              Yup, no argument from here. BTW, IIRC in vi you can write and exit with only three key strokes - [ESC]ZZ - rather than the cumbersome five of [ESC]:wq[ENTER].

              speramus in juniperus

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              • A Argonia

                If you are programmer with not enough background with the language i don't thing that the best practice is to disable the coloring of the text. I think that the language itself it is not so easy to do such practice. And beside that coloring can save you hours of debugging in some cases like this for example. A enough experienced c++ / colorblind programmer can disable the coloring without lowering his or hers productivity.

                Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true

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                Nagy Vilmos
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                When you become practised in the art then you simply hold your hands above the keyboard in supplication and the code writes itself out of fear of reprisals. :cool:

                speramus in juniperus

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                • N Nagy Vilmos

                  When you become practised in the art then you simply hold your hands above the keyboard in supplication and the code writes itself out of fear of reprisals. :cool:

                  speramus in juniperus

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                  Argonia
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                  I can only dream of achieving such heights. :sigh:

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                  • P Pete OHanlon

                    We didn't have IDE's on Unix systems when I started. I'm, what's the word I'm looking for? Oh yes, I'm old.

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                    Sentenryu
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                    Well, I'm young and I run away from unix, so there's that :laugh:

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                    • P Pablo Aliskevicius

                      The compilers I've used give a warning in cases like this. JM2B,

                      Pablo. "Accident: An inevitable occurrence due to the action of immutable natural laws." (Ambrose Bierce, circa 1899). "You are to act in the light of experience as guided by intelligence" (Rex Stout, "In the Best Families", 1950).

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                      Sentenryu
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                      Who looks at warnings? nobody that works with me, sadly :(

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                      • S Sentenryu

                        Who looks at warnings? nobody that works with me, sadly :(

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                        OriginalGriff
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                        I don't - I have "treat warnings as errors" set on my projects to prevent compilation succeeding! :laugh:

                        Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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                        • T Tsuda Kageyu

                          Oops! It was like this:

                          // Sometimes carry out the work \
                          if (flag)
                          {
                          SomeWork();
                          }

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                          Nicholas Marty
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                          That's a reason more to use K&R style (or a variation of it)!! :laugh:

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            I don't - I have "treat warnings as errors" set on my projects to prevent compilation succeeding! :laugh:

                            Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

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                            Sentenryu
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                            People here don't read error messages, so even if i set that they would just ignore

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              I don't - I have "treat warnings as errors" set on my projects to prevent compilation succeeding! :laugh:

                              Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

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                              Lost User
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                              Many programmers use "treat errors as warnings" option.

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                                I don't - I have "treat warnings as errors" set on my projects to prevent compilation succeeding! :laugh:

                                Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

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                                Many programmers use "treat errors as warnings" flag.

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                                • S Sentenryu

                                  People here don't read error messages, so even if i set that they would just ignore

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                                  OriginalGriff
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                                  That's the whole point: if you set "treat warnings as errors" then compilation fails until the warning is fixed. You can't run or test you app until you do.

                                  Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

                                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                  • P Pete OHanlon

                                    And what about those hard core devs who swear by (instead of at) vi? My point wasn't that Notepad++ supports or does not support colourisation. It's that you can't rely on colourisation to indicate problems.

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                                    CPallini
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                                    Hey man, hats off to vi: it provides syntax colouring as well. And you can rely on colourization. Well, unless you write something like

                                    for (n=0; n<100; ++n);
                                    {
                                    doSomething();
                                    }

                                    Veni, vidi, vici.

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                                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                                      When you become practised in the art then you simply hold your hands above the keyboard in supplication and the code writes itself out of fear of reprisals. :cool:

                                      speramus in juniperus

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                                      CPallini
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                                      Yes, we do know PMs have a quite twisted perception of the software development process. ;P

                                      Veni, vidi, vici.

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                                      • P Pete OHanlon

                                        Hey, I like vi. There are parts of it that I wish were available in Visual Studio. dd for instance. Or 10dd to delete 10 lines. Yes, you can do this using other means in an IDE, but they are all more cumbersome.

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                                        Brisingr Aerowing
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                                        VsVim[^] might be useful for you. It adds Vim commands to VS.

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                                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                          That's the whole point: if you set "treat warnings as errors" then compilation fails until the warning is fixed. You can't run or test you app until you do.

                                          Never underestimate the power of stupid things in large numbers --- Serious Sam

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                                          Freak30
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                                          My old boss once jokingly said that he was still waiting for the "treat errors as warnings" flag. :D

                                          The good thing about pessimism is, that you are always either right or pleasently surprised.

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