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  • C Chris Maunder

    Thanks so much Microsoft - I really appreciate the way the latest service pack kills our web servers. No - really. I've been told time and time again to hold off applying patches till they are test - but who does the tests? Is there a definitive place on the web where someone gives a patch a thumbs up? Last time I checked that place was Microsoft.com. How does one balance the need to protect servers against script kiddies who have nothing better to do than attack the latest security vulnerability before they are patched with the need to ensure server stability and uptime? I've always erred on the side of trusting Microsoft but I guess that's just being naive. cheers, Chris Maunder

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    Which SP has bitten you now? I have been waffling over installing Win2K SP3 for some time. My mouse creeps slowly toward the icon, then I have to forcibly drag it back into the safe zone, over and over and over again.... It scares usssss! Evil, wicked Service Pack, musn't touch! I think MS must be testing their SPs on Linux servers. My latest - just this morning OE started crashing when attempting to reply to an email. Six times, msimn.exe:SysFader tried to read memory that could not be read, and the repair option doen't fix it. Naturally, the Knowledge Base contains no mention of it. Knoppix is looking soooooo good right now. It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
    Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

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    • C Chris Maunder

      Thanks so much Microsoft - I really appreciate the way the latest service pack kills our web servers. No - really. I've been told time and time again to hold off applying patches till they are test - but who does the tests? Is there a definitive place on the web where someone gives a patch a thumbs up? Last time I checked that place was Microsoft.com. How does one balance the need to protect servers against script kiddies who have nothing better to do than attack the latest security vulnerability before they are patched with the need to ensure server stability and uptime? I've always erred on the side of trusting Microsoft but I guess that's just being naive. cheers, Chris Maunder

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      JoeSox
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      I have been doing usability studies for MS, I signed a confidentiality agreement so ,all I can say is this area they are aware of and are working on it and should improve :) Later,
      JoeSox
      www.joeswammi.com
      A Season in Hell[^]

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        I have been doing usability studies for MS, I signed a confidentiality agreement so ,all I can say is this area they are aware of and are working on it and should improve :) Later,
        JoeSox
        www.joeswammi.com
        A Season in Hell[^]

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        Roger Wright
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        Yeah, that's what they told me at a meeting in Phoenix 4 years ago. Is that a pig flying overhead? Mindless, arrogant assholes. It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
        Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

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          Yeah, that's what they told me at a meeting in Phoenix 4 years ago. Is that a pig flying overhead? Mindless, arrogant assholes. It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
          Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

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          JoeSox
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          Roger Wright wrote: Mindless, arrogant assholes. Please, tell me how you really feel.;) Later,
          JoeSox
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          A Season in Hell[^]

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            I have been doing usability studies for MS, I signed a confidentiality agreement so ,all I can say is this area they are aware of and are working on it and should improve :) Later,
            JoeSox
            www.joeswammi.com
            A Season in Hell[^]

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            Chris Maunder
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            Maybe we should have a 'how many Microsoft NDA's have you signed' poll. Usability testing, eh? Please tell me it's for Office. Please. No one at Microsoft is willing to tell me where the Office building is on Redmond campus. But I'll find them. One day... Mwahahahahahaha. cheers, Chris Maunder

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            • C Chris Maunder

              Thanks so much Microsoft - I really appreciate the way the latest service pack kills our web servers. No - really. I've been told time and time again to hold off applying patches till they are test - but who does the tests? Is there a definitive place on the web where someone gives a patch a thumbs up? Last time I checked that place was Microsoft.com. How does one balance the need to protect servers against script kiddies who have nothing better to do than attack the latest security vulnerability before they are patched with the need to ensure server stability and uptime? I've always erred on the side of trusting Microsoft but I guess that's just being naive. cheers, Chris Maunder

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              David Wulff
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              Oh come on Chris, quite your whining!! These things are intentional, they are desinged to weed out the weakling web admins. You passed the test, I think, so you should be proud!

              David Wulff

              "David Wulff can't live without me, so you shouldn't either" - Paul Watson

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              • C Chris Maunder

                Maybe we should have a 'how many Microsoft NDA's have you signed' poll. Usability testing, eh? Please tell me it's for Office. Please. No one at Microsoft is willing to tell me where the Office building is on Redmond campus. But I'll find them. One day... Mwahahahahahaha. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                JoeSox
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                I can fax you the map they gave me:) but no info on what building but just chat with there cute receptionists :P , well most of them anyway:-D Later,
                JoeSox
                www.joeswammi.com
                Killing In The Name[^]

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                  I can fax you the map they gave me:) but no info on what building but just chat with there cute receptionists :P , well most of them anyway:-D Later,
                  JoeSox
                  www.joeswammi.com
                  Killing In The Name[^]

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                  Go to building 35. Seriously. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    Go to building 35. Seriously. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                    :laugh: haa haa haa, (JoeSox jumps in car and drives away heading to Redmond):-D ps. I love drive thru there, If feel the coding force in the air.;P Later,
                    JoeSox
                    www.joeswammi.com
                    Killing In The Name[^]

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      Go to building 35. Seriously. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                      Chris Maunder wrote: Go to building 35. Is that where HR is? ;) When I interviewed at MS, the HR rep I talked to when I arrived was really cute. --Mike-- PROCRASTINATION: Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now. BUY MY SOFTWARE!! (please?) RightClick-Encrypt | 1ClickPicGrabber My IntarWeb Homepgae!!!11

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        Thanks so much Microsoft - I really appreciate the way the latest service pack kills our web servers. No - really. I've been told time and time again to hold off applying patches till they are test - but who does the tests? Is there a definitive place on the web where someone gives a patch a thumbs up? Last time I checked that place was Microsoft.com. How does one balance the need to protect servers against script kiddies who have nothing better to do than attack the latest security vulnerability before they are patched with the need to ensure server stability and uptime? I've always erred on the side of trusting Microsoft but I guess that's just being naive. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                        Giles
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                        Oooo. I can tell you've been getting pissed at MS the past few days with your IE rant included. :-D All will be well. You need to put the toilet seat down for your servers, to provide the best environment fot their Zen happiness. :wtf::laugh: Quote from a clever bloke : "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein

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                        • M Michael Dunn

                          Chris Maunder wrote: Go to building 35. Is that where HR is? ;) When I interviewed at MS, the HR rep I talked to when I arrived was really cute. --Mike-- PROCRASTINATION: Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now. BUY MY SOFTWARE!! (please?) RightClick-Encrypt | 1ClickPicGrabber My IntarWeb Homepgae!!!11

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                          Chris Maunder
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                          No - 35 is the SQL Building and is next to Bill's. HR is partly 19, partly in the Issaquah offices. I think I'm incriminating myself here... cheers, Chris Maunder

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                            Which SP has bitten you now? I have been waffling over installing Win2K SP3 for some time. My mouse creeps slowly toward the icon, then I have to forcibly drag it back into the safe zone, over and over and over again.... It scares usssss! Evil, wicked Service Pack, musn't touch! I think MS must be testing their SPs on Linux servers. My latest - just this morning OE started crashing when attempting to reply to an email. Six times, msimn.exe:SysFader tried to read memory that could not be read, and the repair option doen't fix it. Naturally, the Knowledge Base contains no mention of it. Knoppix is looking soooooo good right now. It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
                            Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

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                            Roger Wright wrote: My latest - just this morning OE started crashing when attempting to reply to an email. Interesting. My Outlook has been crashing incessently as well since last week's patching (the same that caused so much trouble with our servers). But at least Microsoft is taking security seriously. There's no way on Earth a hacker can get in when your system is lying dead on the floor twitching. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                            • C Chris Maunder

                              Roger Wright wrote: My latest - just this morning OE started crashing when attempting to reply to an email. Interesting. My Outlook has been crashing incessently as well since last week's patching (the same that caused so much trouble with our servers). But at least Microsoft is taking security seriously. There's no way on Earth a hacker can get in when your system is lying dead on the floor twitching. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                              Chris Maunder wrote: There's no way on Earth a hacker can get in when your system is lying dead on the floor twitching. LOL!!! What a novel solution! I'm changing my error response settings from "Log and Restart" to "Boot from Knoppix CD and Install Apache." :-D It is ok for women not to like sports, so long as they nod in the right places and bring beers at the right times.
                              Paul Watson, on Sports - 2/10/2003

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