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watching Bush on TV this evening I couldn't help but wonder...

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  • C Chris Losinger

    Stan Shannon wrote: I'm sure if it were a Democrat in there, you would behind him all the way. and i'm sure you'd be against him all the way. -c


    When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.

    Bobber!

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    Stan Shannon
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    Chris Losinger wrote: and i'm sure you'd be against him all the way. Yep, and proud of it. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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    • J Jason Henderson

      http://www.codeproject.com/script/comments/forums.asp?forumid=2605&searchkw=Phillipin&sd=12%2F7%2F2002&ed=3%2F7%2F2003&select=435675&df=100#xx435675xx This is the post with a link to the Phillipine Terrorist story. [EDIT]Sorry I screwed that up. Here is the link[^].[/EDIT]

      Jason Henderson
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      HENDRIK R
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      That's interesting .... I wonder why I didn't here about it in our media, but possibly I've overlooked it :confused: So thx for your hint :rose:


      We are men. We are different. We have only one word for soap. We do not own candles. We have never seen anything of any value in a craft shop. We do not own magazines full of photographs of celebrities with their clothes on. - Steve

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      • N Nitron

        Sorry Chris. :rose: My last comment was uncalled for. I understand there is never a solution that will please everyone, and all I can say is that I can never imagine myself as a politician. I think I'll stick to CP and C++. ;) - Nitron


        "Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb

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        Nitron wrote: I can never imagine myself as a politician. I think I'll stick to CP and C++. some days , i feel the same way. :) :beer: -c


        When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.

        Bobber!

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        • P Paul Riley

          Brad Jennings wrote: Last I checked "forthrightly" is not in the dictionary. You check that often? :rolleyes: Paul We all will feed the worms and trees
          So don't be shy
          - Queens of the Stone Age, Mosquito Song

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          Brad Jennings
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          Paul Riley wrote: You check that often? :laugh: Brad Jennings "if the golden arches shut shop, where else are the VB people going to get work." - Colin Davies

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          • M Michael A Barnhart

            Cathy wrote: Unfortunatly politicians lie, especially this one. My goodness, why aren't we trying to have him impeached. From this as a standard we would have to remove all politician of all countries. A little impractical. Your bias in stating Bush is more of a liar than previous is showing. Cathy wrote: Is he doing his job or lining his pockets and carrying out personal grudges? I could honestly say this sounds just as much like a complaint against Clinton as Bush. Cathy wrote: I also don't believe the bible can be taken literally. Then why did you start the thread implying he was not following his GOD. Cathy wrote: Ok I just read it. It sounds like he told them to defend themselves. A) The US was attacked on 9/11. (I am not saying the link ot Iraq has been shown, just noting in Bush's statements this is defense.) B) Kuwait was attacked and the US was asked to help defend it. The current situation is a continuation of those events so is still in defense. ""

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            Statement A: The Al-Qaeda Iraq connection had been floated; and could never be proved to the satisfaction of other countries; like it could be in the case of Afghanistan. There is no defence in this Iraq situation at all. It is just a "take down at any cost" agenda that has been a mission to many in the Bush administration even when Clinton was President. It has nothing to do with 9/11; or defence against the people who did it. Statement B: If a UN resolution is infringed, UN security council has to take action; not a member state. It would be like one citizen saying that our DA and police are bad; so we will decide who to prosecute and do justice. In 1991, there was a UN resolution to start a war and liberate Iraq. In 2003, there is no consensus about the "imminent" threat that Saddam poses to anyone. Even Kuwait and Iran is not that worried. Israel is also much less vocal about this. If United States feels that their security is infringed by Iraq (case A) - and that there is a sustained effort from Iraq to sabotage United States; then the decision to bypass United Nations can be justified to an extent. Otherwise, it is just a bad excuse - given because they know that every other country is practical enough to keep out of a war that does not concern them directly. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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            • M Mike Gaskey

              Schlaubi wrote: The Iraqi disarmament is still a controversional topic - nobody could show evidences for or against it. Each of Hans Blix's reports to the UN state that he has yet to account for the chemical and biological weapons he is known to possess. Schlaubi wrote: However, the weapon inspectors seem to have failed in their plans to completely disarm Iraq. It was NOT THEIR JOB to disarm Iraq. It WAS THEIR JOB to verify that he had. Schlaubi wrote: But the question is whether he's really that dangerous Bush claims him to be. No it is not. The question is, "has he disarmed". Schlaubi wrote: I fear there're countries more dangerous for the world, Iran, North Korea... - you think the UN is up to that? Schlaubi wrote: Yeah, as other countries did. Proof? Mike

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              The job of enforcing a UN resolution is with the UN security council. If 3/5th of the vecto votes in SC is against it, it should not be done. You can call it whatever you want; but enforcing a UN resolution calling UN itself irrelevent is illogical and pure BS. Iran has not attacked a single country in its modern history. Its elected government was overthrown by US and British - and changed them into a dictatorship; and now they have an Islamic government. Other than "buying" not selling weapons from North Korea, you have no other case against them. There have been so many people arrested in Europe and United States for links to terrorism - does that make these countries terrorist sponsors? If terrorism can originate from Pakistan; and Pakistan is not a terrorist state, how can Iran be one? Just because they practise Islamic law. North Korea. China tells us that they are willing to destroy any nuclear weapons they have; and not pursue it if US agrees to a non-agression pact. The sudden change of mind seems to be a self-defense scheme of Kim, when he sees what is happening to Iraq. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

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              • C Chris Losinger

                Stan Shannon wrote: "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush. other memorable quotes: "We're not into nation-building." "If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road." "I'm going to talk about making sure we strengthen the military, we strengthen our alliances, we strengthen the international economy through free trade." (one out of three ain't bad?) GWB


                When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.

                Bobber!

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                "They want to control Social Security, like it's some kind of government program." - GWB     Ty

                "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." -Albert Einstein

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                • C Cathy

                  what diety he is talking about. He said he's praying for guidance about Iraq. I'm thinking there is no way God would direct him to start a war with anyone. Only Satan wants wars. Conclusion: Bush must be a Satan Worshiper. Cathy Life's uncertain, have dessert first!

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                  Cathy wrote: Bush must be a Satan Worshiper. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Well the Psalms is filled with either Prasing God or ask for his enemies/"the wicked" to be crushed to dust. Also "Holy Wars" was thrown out so now anyone can yell Holy War (cough cough cough what Bin Laden did), but the US can't "seperation of Church and State." And plus people don't want to fight for oil.. -Steven

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                  • J Jason Henderson

                    Cathy wrote: Ok I just read it. It sounds like he told them to defend themselves. I also don't believe the bible can be taken literally. You slam Bush for being a Satan worshiper (when you clearly know nothing about his christian religion), then you go and make a statement like this. I'll be sure to not take anything you say literally from now on.

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                    Jason Henderson wrote: I'll be sure to not take anything you say literally from now on. ok. Jason Henderson wrote: when you clearly know nothing about his christian religion Hey! I went to Catacism and did my first communion. Seriously what about the sixth commandment "Thou shall not kill". The referenced material contradicts this. Can't take it literally. There is a great book "Sermon on the Mount" by Emmett Fox about this. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060628626/104-5977660-9239951?vi=glance[^] The commandment wins. The other was taken out of context. The story's aim was not that God thinks war is great. We are all his children equally. It makes him sad when we hurt each other. Cathy Life's uncertain, have dessert first!

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                    • C Cathy

                      Jason Henderson wrote: I'll be sure to not take anything you say literally from now on. ok. Jason Henderson wrote: when you clearly know nothing about his christian religion Hey! I went to Catacism and did my first communion. Seriously what about the sixth commandment "Thou shall not kill". The referenced material contradicts this. Can't take it literally. There is a great book "Sermon on the Mount" by Emmett Fox about this. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060628626/104-5977660-9239951?vi=glance[^] The commandment wins. The other was taken out of context. The story's aim was not that God thinks war is great. We are all his children equally. It makes him sad when we hurt each other. Cathy Life's uncertain, have dessert first!

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                      Jason Henderson
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                      There is a distinction between war and murder. Also, the old testament law condoned capital punishment. War stinks, but sometimes war is inevitable and necessary. We live in an imperfect world filled with imperfect people. That will never change. We will never become more enlightened and obtain perpetual peace (not on our own at least). Until you realize that, I doubt that you will understand the motivation for this or any war.

                      Jason Henderson
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                      • M Megan Forbes

                        Blaming religion seems a popular reason to start war - always has been. I guess leaders think that if they tell the general population they are going to war under their "god's" guidance, their people will automatically feel justified in the action. Quite ridiculous, as you say.


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                        Megan Forbes wrote: I guess leaders think that if they tell the general population they are going to war under their "god's" guidance, their people will automatically feel justified in the action. Quite ridiculous, as you say. Are you suggesting the President of the U.S. is feeding the Media propaganda? Later,
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                        • M Mike Gaskey

                          Amen - except Gore would have to consult with a fashion consultant first to find out how to look manly. Mike

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                          Bruce Duncan
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                          Mike Gaskey wrote: except Gore would have to consult with a fashion consultant first to find out how to look manly Whereas Bush wouldn't bother, he's obviously quite happy with his chimpish good looks.

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                          Baldrick: Yeah, it's like goldy and bronzy only it's made of iron.

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