NK. A regional issue
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South Korea is another reason why we have to take the NK issue a little differently than Iraq. Anything we do will be taken up with Seoul first. Why do you think we have 38,000 troops in SK? Are they there as oppressors/occupiers or are they there for the defense of the country? We are there to defend and protect South Korea. If they want us out, we'll leave. But NK, isn't just threatening the south, they are threatening us directly and all of their neighbors. I think the South Koreans recognize this and if the north keeps it up, we will have to defend ourselves (pre-emptively).
Jason Henderson
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - GandhiJason Henderson wrote: defend ourselves (pre-emptively). it would have been much funnier with <oxymoron> tags. -c
When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.
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Jason Henderson wrote: defend ourselves (pre-emptively). it would have been much funnier with <oxymoron> tags. -c
When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.
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South Korea is another reason why we have to take the NK issue a little differently than Iraq. Anything we do will be taken up with Seoul first. Why do you think we have 38,000 troops in SK? Are they there as oppressors/occupiers or are they there for the defense of the country? We are there to defend and protect South Korea. If they want us out, we'll leave. But NK, isn't just threatening the south, they are threatening us directly and all of their neighbors. I think the South Koreans recognize this and if the north keeps it up, we will have to defend ourselves (pre-emptively).
Jason Henderson
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Jason Henderson wrote: What would you do if you saw a guy with a gun standing outside your house just waiting for you to go to sleep? Shoot the SOB before he shoots you! I think you're supposed to invite him in, hug him and ask him what you could give him to make him go away. If you shoot him, you might offend your neighbor. Mike
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Jason Henderson wrote: Anything we do will be taken up with Seoul first. Five minutes notice should be sufficient.
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Seriously, I don't see what we gain by all the bluster. We're obviously much more powerful and we'll "win" if it ever comes to war. We don't have anything to prove. Why does this administration sometimes act like an adolescent male?
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Jason Henderson wrote: settle down or get smacked down NK is like a nut holding hostages. They've made some positive moves in the recent past but they still don't quite get it. Where's the upside of pushing them over the edge and getting the hostages killed?
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Jason Henderson wrote: settle down or get smacked down NK is like a nut holding hostages. They've made some positive moves in the recent past but they still don't quite get it. Where's the upside of pushing them over the edge and getting the hostages killed?
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Torch NY??? How's the missle gonna get that far? These people are so full of it. In 1-2 months, our military will be able to fully handle NK. I assume that's why Bush is hesitant on unilaterally taking them out. If we can get China or Japan to help handle the situation, then thats all the better. BTW, wouldn't a missle defense system be good to have right now????
Jason Henderson
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - GandhiJason Henderson wrote: In 1-2 months, our military will be able to fully handle NK. I assume that's why Bush is hesitant on unilaterally taking them out. If we can get China or Japan to help handle the situation, then thats all the better. The US has been talking about reducing forces in the region (not increasing them). Washington has also indicated that it may redeploy some of its 37,000-strong garrison in South Korea, with Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld saying soldiers stationed near the border could be moved further south or withdrawn from the country altogether. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/2830657.stm[^] ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion
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Q: Mr. President, thank you. Another hot spot is North Korea. If North Korea restarts their plutonium plant, will that change your thinking about how to handle this crisis, or are you resigned to North Korea becoming a nuclear power? Bush: This is a regional issue. I say regional issue because there's a lot of countries that have got a direct stake in whether or not North Korea has nuclear weapons. -- indeed. and that region now includes New York, Chicago and DC: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/07/1046826533281.html[^] -c
When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.
Chris Losinger wrote: Bush: This is a regional issue. Hopefully, that statement will light a fire under China's ass to do something. They say they're concerned about a nuclear North Korea, but avoid any negotiations (and avoid any concessions; leaving the US to make concessions). But the statement is stupid. ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion
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Jason Henderson wrote: What would you do if you saw a guy with a gun standing outside your house just waiting for you to go to sleep? Shoot the SOB before he shoots you! I think you're supposed to invite him in, hug him and ask him what you could give him to make him go away. If you shoot him, you might offend your neighbor. Mike
yah hoo!!! where do you live? i feel you're a threat to my well being. -c
When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.
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So, why don't we let the French take the lead on this one since the USA has so terribly screwed up on Iraq? Mike
Because it's the responsibility of the UN. US haven't screwed yet, without the presence of the US Army the inspectors would not be able to get such results.
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
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Q: Mr. President, thank you. Another hot spot is North Korea. If North Korea restarts their plutonium plant, will that change your thinking about how to handle this crisis, or are you resigned to North Korea becoming a nuclear power? Bush: This is a regional issue. I say regional issue because there's a lot of countries that have got a direct stake in whether or not North Korea has nuclear weapons. -- indeed. and that region now includes New York, Chicago and DC: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/07/1046826533281.html[^] -c
When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.
Translation: "I don't know where the hell North Korea is, but I guess those other countries nearby had better start watching their backs! All those slant-eyed countries over there in Asiastan. Now I's got to go and gets me some oil. Jesus told me it was the right thang to do!" Ty
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." -Albert Einstein
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yah hoo!!! where do you live? i feel you're a threat to my well being. -c
When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.
see what happens when you forget to indicate sarcasm - dang. Mike
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see what happens when you forget to indicate sarcasm - dang. Mike
i got the sarcasm. looks like you missed mine :) -c
When history comes, it always takes you by surprise.
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Because it's the responsibility of the UN. US haven't screwed yet, without the presence of the US Army the inspectors would not be able to get such results.
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
KaЯl wrote: Because it's the responsibility of the UN. But who will initiate an action or resolution? If the USA does it, well then we'd be war mongering. Reckon? (cowboy talk) KaЯl wrote: US haven't screwed yet, without the presence of the US Army the inspectors would not be able to get such results. And we should leave them on the border for how many years? 12 years was long enough to live up to the terms of the disarmament agreement, and there has certainly been enough time to deliver to resolution 1441. Just for the intellectual exercise, how much time should be given? Mike
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KaЯl wrote: Because it's the responsibility of the UN. But who will initiate an action or resolution? If the USA does it, well then we'd be war mongering. Reckon? (cowboy talk) KaЯl wrote: US haven't screwed yet, without the presence of the US Army the inspectors would not be able to get such results. And we should leave them on the border for how many years? 12 years was long enough to live up to the terms of the disarmament agreement, and there has certainly been enough time to deliver to resolution 1441. Just for the intellectual exercise, how much time should be given? Mike
Mike Gaskey wrote: But who will initiate an action or resolution? It could be Japan, or South Korea, they are the more concerned. Mike Gaskey wrote: Reckon? (cowboy talk) Reckon[^] :confused: ? Mike Gaskey wrote: And we should leave them on the border for how many years The UN inspectors decide. They are the only ones who know how many time they need. As soon as they say they can't do their job, war will be the last solution, but as long they ask for time, this time should be allowed to them. BTW, I read this in Jane's newsletter: "Iran's nuclear capability probed; Iran has made more progress than previously publicly disclosed in furthering its nuclear weapons capabilities, though its ultimate intentions remain unclear. According to US and International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) officials, Iran is developing a full-scale uranium enrichment facility near Natanz, 160km north of Esfahan. It has completed a pilot-scale centrifuge cascade for such work at that location." After the invasion of Iraq, Iran will be surrounded by a US grip, threatened by a double attack from Iraq and from Afghanistan. Is Iran the next target?
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons
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Jason Henderson wrote: What would you do if you saw a guy with a gun standing outside your house just waiting for you to go to sleep? Shoot the SOB before he shoots you! I think you're supposed to invite him in, hug him and ask him what you could give him to make him go away. If you shoot him, you might offend your neighbor. Mike
"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, Do not resist an evildoer. But if anyone strikes you on the right cheek, turn the other also; and if anyone wants to sue you and take your coat, give your cloak as well; and if anyone forces you to go one mile, go also the second mile"
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean,when you're going up against a crazed dictator,you wanna have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than 2 years before you guys pitched in against Hitler,but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons