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  • G geoyar

    Today, 08/25/2014 I got a weekly CP newsletter. What a mess! Before, we had categories like C++, Android, etc., and New Articles, Updated Articles, Tips, etc. You could quick find new C++ article and skip Android if you are not interested. Now all are in one messy list with these stupid thumbnails to the left. Do guys who change the layout have any clues how people are using CP newsletters? It is better to return to old layout immediately.

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    Chris Maunder
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    Thanks for the constructive feedback. You don't like the new look? That's fine and I understand and I will be adjusting it in the next few days. What about providing some ideas of what you do like?

    cheers Chris Maunder

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      Thanks for the constructive feedback. You don't like the new look? That's fine and I understand and I will be adjusting it in the next few days. What about providing some ideas of what you do like?

      cheers Chris Maunder

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      oleh hrynyk
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      what i liked in newsletter were categories, now i don't see a reason to even look into daily build email...I dont care about images really. Please return old format or at least give an option to choose TYVM

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        Thanks for the constructive feedback. You don't like the new look? That's fine and I understand and I will be adjusting it in the next few days. What about providing some ideas of what you do like?

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        geoyar
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        First of all, there is very little info you can extract from thumbnails. I see no help from them. Second, any newsletter layout should make search for the article or programming tip easier. For example, I am the C++ guy. So, before, I went straight to C++ category. So it is not about like/don't like the new look. This is about no possibility to use a newsletter: would you scan all newsletter to find there is nothing for you today. Please return to old layout with categories, new and updated articles/tips/blogs. I saw another post here with the same request. Again, the new layout renders newsletters of no use. I would rather use search for latest C++ articles than wander amid these thumbnails.

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        • G geoyar

          First of all, there is very little info you can extract from thumbnails. I see no help from them. Second, any newsletter layout should make search for the article or programming tip easier. For example, I am the C++ guy. So, before, I went straight to C++ category. So it is not about like/don't like the new look. This is about no possibility to use a newsletter: would you scan all newsletter to find there is nothing for you today. Please return to old layout with categories, new and updated articles/tips/blogs. I saw another post here with the same request. Again, the new layout renders newsletters of no use. I would rather use search for latest C++ articles than wander amid these thumbnails.

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          Nelek
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          geoyar wrote:

          I saw another post here with the same request.

          Did you see the answer of Yuriy Loginov? He explains the idea behind and tells about the use of filters. Using them you should take ride of your not desired content.

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            geoyar wrote:

            I saw another post here with the same request.

            Did you see the answer of Yuriy Loginov? He explains the idea behind and tells about the use of filters. Using them you should take ride of your not desired content.

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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            geoyar
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            Yes, filter might help, but also might be very wrong. For example, lot of articles on design patterns are in C#. So if you are C++ guy and are interested in design patterns, you have to invent a very complicated filter and for what? To allow wrong solution to exist? I think your position is not defensible. You took the good layout and replaced it with very bad. And you insist that the users should do their own extra work to correct what you did. And what about new/updated? And answer honestly: what did you want to accomplish? Definitely you made life of the readers much more difficult. For what? Restore the old layout and keep it until you find something better. Addition: I read the reply by Yuriy. I think it is totally wrong. If the guy is searching a list for what he needs, it is totally wrong to narrow the field of the search as it was suggested. Sometimes you can find a pearl on the side. What is important, it is to give him a clear cues what he is looking at. In your solution the user sees the list without cues, and it is wrong.

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            • C Chris Maunder

              Thanks for the constructive feedback. You don't like the new look? That's fine and I understand and I will be adjusting it in the next few days. What about providing some ideas of what you do like?

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              Lost User
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              I tend to agree with the previous two messages about categories. In terms of layout, I think the newsletter looks really clear so it is easy to read the synopsis alongside each image. What is missing in many of the messages is the category or language, so it's difficult to know whether a particular article is going to be useful (to me, as I only work in ).

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              • G geoyar

                Yes, filter might help, but also might be very wrong. For example, lot of articles on design patterns are in C#. So if you are C++ guy and are interested in design patterns, you have to invent a very complicated filter and for what? To allow wrong solution to exist? I think your position is not defensible. You took the good layout and replaced it with very bad. And you insist that the users should do their own extra work to correct what you did. And what about new/updated? And answer honestly: what did you want to accomplish? Definitely you made life of the readers much more difficult. For what? Restore the old layout and keep it until you find something better. Addition: I read the reply by Yuriy. I think it is totally wrong. If the guy is searching a list for what he needs, it is totally wrong to narrow the field of the search as it was suggested. Sometimes you can find a pearl on the side. What is important, it is to give him a clear cues what he is looking at. In your solution the user sees the list without cues, and it is wrong.

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                Nelek
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                You missunderstood me, I am not defeinding anything. I just wanted to point out the answer of the CP-Staff (just in case you missed it) I understand your point.

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                • G geoyar

                  Yes, filter might help, but also might be very wrong. For example, lot of articles on design patterns are in C#. So if you are C++ guy and are interested in design patterns, you have to invent a very complicated filter and for what? To allow wrong solution to exist? I think your position is not defensible. You took the good layout and replaced it with very bad. And you insist that the users should do their own extra work to correct what you did. And what about new/updated? And answer honestly: what did you want to accomplish? Definitely you made life of the readers much more difficult. For what? Restore the old layout and keep it until you find something better. Addition: I read the reply by Yuriy. I think it is totally wrong. If the guy is searching a list for what he needs, it is totally wrong to narrow the field of the search as it was suggested. Sometimes you can find a pearl on the side. What is important, it is to give him a clear cues what he is looking at. In your solution the user sees the list without cues, and it is wrong.

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                  Chris Maunder
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                  Let me know how the Daily Build is for you today.

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  • C Chris Maunder

                    Let me know how the Daily Build is for you today.

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    geoyar
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                    It is better. Did not get two things: 1. What is the meaning of icons to the left of the list items (light bulbs or paper (?) pages)? 2. You may also like... What is it? Is it not a contribution of CP author, something else? What? Also, article rating is very deceiving thing: look how many posts are saying 'Wonderful!!!' about very mediocre articles. I would never allow high ratings to influence me. Low rating is another thing. Maybe it is better to display ratings when an article is open. Anyway, thank you for a quick reaction.

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                    • N Nelek

                      You missunderstood me, I am not defeinding anything. I just wanted to point out the answer of the CP-Staff (just in case you missed it) I understand your point.

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      geoyar
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                      OK, got your point.

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        Let me know how the Daily Build is for you today.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        Gerd Wagner
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                        My impression is that there is much more vertical white space in the new layout than you had before. This makes it really unpleasant/slow to scroll through, so I gave up reading it.

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