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  • K Kent Sharkey

    ParaSoft[^]:

    Why can’t they just stop doing whatever it is that they are doing, and get back to testing software?

    Is that one of those questions like, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    By the by... one hand clapping sounds exactly like one hand clapping.

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      By the by... one hand clapping sounds exactly like one hand clapping.

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      PCHCHCHCHKUUUUUU! Ma head! It's 'sploding! I now feel so at one with the universes.

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        By the by... one hand clapping sounds exactly like one hand clapping.

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        Lost User
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        ..sounds more like a hand flapping. Try it.

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          ..sounds more like a hand flapping. Try it.

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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          I have; it's a clapping sound.

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          • K Kent Sharkey

            ParaSoft[^]:

            Why can’t they just stop doing whatever it is that they are doing, and get back to testing software?

            Is that one of those questions like, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

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            Steve Messer
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            The test acceptance criteria said that one hand clapping must sound like two hands clapping.

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              I have; it's a clapping sound.

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              Lost User
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              Implies that clapping sounds sound like flapping sounds to you. If you wer fed chicken, would you remark it tastes "just like" chicken? :-\

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              • P PIEBALDconsult

                By the by... one hand clapping sounds exactly like one hand clapping.

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                Mark_Wallace
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                PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                one hand clapping sounds exactly like one hand clapping.

                I always thought it sounded like a tree not falling in a forest when there's someone there.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • K Kent Sharkey

                  ParaSoft[^]:

                  Why can’t they just stop doing whatever it is that they are doing, and get back to testing software?

                  Is that one of those questions like, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

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                  Bernhard Hiller
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                  Kent Sharkey wrote:

                  Is that one of those questions like, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

                  No, it isn't. The question and its answers are fully accessible by an intellectual thought process, no zen intuition required. Working in a small company, I - a software developer - have to do software tests, too. And it's true: I spend waste a lot of my time for setting up the test environment. It's really fun to install the latest version of our products on a server where my colleagues had played before: development versions of our Windows services installed on the "desktop" of the user and other such WTFs. How much time gets lost for finding out such "features" and cleaning them up before I can actually do any tests...

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                    Kent Sharkey wrote:

                    Is that one of those questions like, "What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

                    No, it isn't. The question and its answers are fully accessible by an intellectual thought process, no zen intuition required. Working in a small company, I - a software developer - have to do software tests, too. And it's true: I spend waste a lot of my time for setting up the test environment. It's really fun to install the latest version of our products on a server where my colleagues had played before: development versions of our Windows services installed on the "desktop" of the user and other such WTFs. How much time gets lost for finding out such "features" and cleaning them up before I can actually do any tests...

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                    Nelek
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                    Bernhard Hiller wrote:

                    How much time gets lost for finding out such "features" and cleaning them up before I can actually do any tests...

                    Do a clean enviroment once, backup the server with Ghost or acronis and next time don't give a crap about your collegues, restore backup, install what you need and for the rest... GTFO :-D :-D :-D

                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      Bernhard Hiller wrote:

                      How much time gets lost for finding out such "features" and cleaning them up before I can actually do any tests...

                      Do a clean enviroment once, backup the server with Ghost or acronis and next time don't give a crap about your collegues, restore backup, install what you need and for the rest... GTFO :-D :-D :-D

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      Bernhard Hiller
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                      Nelek wrote:

                      Do a clean enviroment once

                      Good idea. But I have no administrative priviledges on the esx server. And my boss fails with such simple tasks of course (actually he'd be capable of performing them, but why should he ever bother to do something correctly?).

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                        Nelek wrote:

                        Do a clean enviroment once

                        Good idea. But I have no administrative priviledges on the esx server. And my boss fails with such simple tasks of course (actually he'd be capable of performing them, but why should he ever bother to do something correctly?).

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                        Bernhard Hiller wrote:

                        but why should he ever bother to do something correctly?

                        You are right, if he did, then he would not be a "boss" ;P

                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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