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  • K Kent Sharkey

    Softpedia[^]:

    A French group of publishers, including top names such as Microsoft and Google, are planning to sue developers of ad-blocking software because of the impact that their solutions have on their web-based solutions.

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

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    FIorian Schneidereit
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    I'm waiting for the day when they integrate an ad-bar you can't disable directly into their browsers... oh, wait - I actually don't. This is ridiculous. I mean, why do Microsoft and Google care so much if users block advertisements? The only ones being upset should be the providers of this garbage.

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    • K Kent Sharkey

      Softpedia[^]:

      A French group of publishers, including top names such as Microsoft and Google, are planning to sue developers of ad-blocking software because of the impact that their solutions have on their web-based solutions.

      "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

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      Dan Neely
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      The fundamental disconnect is their assumption that those of us who run adblockers would ever: 0) Click on an ad even if it was relevant. or 1) Remember a product/service advertised that way for any other reason than because the ad they used was sufficiently obnoxious to earn them a slot on the viewers boycott list. Every banner/popup/etc that I block from even downloading is one more that the advertiser hasn't thrown money away to pay for and that won't run the risk of eliminating any chance of my doing business with them in the future.

      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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      • F FIorian Schneidereit

        I'm waiting for the day when they integrate an ad-bar you can't disable directly into their browsers... oh, wait - I actually don't. This is ridiculous. I mean, why do Microsoft and Google care so much if users block advertisements? The only ones being upset should be the providers of this garbage.

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        JMK NI
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        why do ... Google care so much if users block advertisements? The only ones being upset should be the providers of this garbage.

        Isn't that Google though?

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          The fundamental disconnect is their assumption that those of us who run adblockers would ever: 0) Click on an ad even if it was relevant. or 1) Remember a product/service advertised that way for any other reason than because the ad they used was sufficiently obnoxious to earn them a slot on the viewers boycott list. Every banner/popup/etc that I block from even downloading is one more that the advertiser hasn't thrown money away to pay for and that won't run the risk of eliminating any chance of my doing business with them in the future.

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          0bx
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          If I rent out billboard space on the wall of my house, it's not really my problem if the advertisements on there aren't well placed. But if someone plants a tree in front the billboard, then it does become my problem.

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          • F FIorian Schneidereit

            I'm waiting for the day when they integrate an ad-bar you can't disable directly into their browsers... oh, wait - I actually don't. This is ridiculous. I mean, why do Microsoft and Google care so much if users block advertisements? The only ones being upset should be the providers of this garbage.

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            Lost User
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            They make a lot of money from selling advertising space on their web pages - that's why

            PooperPig - Coming Soon

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              Great! Ignoring the outrageous and absurd grounds of the attempt, and assuming they manage to win somehow, question: would I be entitled to sue them later for stealing my time, bandwidth, money, and for all the stress inflicted on my humanity, because of all the amount of cr@p they feed to my already crippled browser? That would be fair, I guess.

              Anything that could possibly go wrong in some moment, will definitely go wrong in the worst possible moment...
              In the worst way that could be possible!

              –Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law (paraphrased).

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              Richard Andrew x64
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              Leandro Taset wrote:

              would I be entitled to sue them later

              All you need is deep pockets!

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              • K Kent Sharkey

                Softpedia[^]:

                A French group of publishers, including top names such as Microsoft and Google, are planning to sue developers of ad-blocking software because of the impact that their solutions have on their web-based solutions.

                "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

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                Marc Clifton
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                Kent Sharkey wrote:

                "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

                Erm...no. Then you lose. Marc

                Imperative to Functional Programming Succinctly Higher Order Programming

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                • F FIorian Schneidereit

                  I'm waiting for the day when they integrate an ad-bar you can't disable directly into their browsers... oh, wait - I actually don't. This is ridiculous. I mean, why do Microsoft and Google care so much if users block advertisements? The only ones being upset should be the providers of this garbage.

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                  Richard Deeming
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                  Opera used to do that, before they realised how stupid it was.

                  Opera (web browser)[^]:

                  Up to this point, Opera was trialware and had to be purchased after the trial period ended. Version 5.0 (released in 2000) saw the end of this requirement. Instead, Opera became ad-sponsored, displaying advertisements to users who had not paid for it. Later versions of Opera gave the user the choice of seeing banner ads or targeted text advertisements from Google. With version 8.5 (released in 2005) the advertisements were removed entirely and primary financial support for the browser came through revenue from Google (which is by contract Opera's default search engine).


                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                    If I rent out billboard space on the wall of my house, it's not really my problem if the advertisements on there aren't well placed. But if someone plants a tree in front the billboard, then it does become my problem.

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                    Dan Neely
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                    And when you decide a static billboard isn't good enough, and replace it with a 1.21gigawatt projector and a huge set of speakers that go to 11 and aim both to blast through my window when I'm doing something else it's a declaration of war and I won't be taking prisoners. I don't know where the revenue model for the web is going to end up; but the barrage of video, talking, animated, content blocking, and seizure flashing banners/etc that elephanting advertiscum have been spraying all over the place are so far beyond the pale that they're not the answer. My blocking filters are entirely selfwritten; every banner host that's blocked and every page that's had all it's ad divs blocked has gotten on the list for disrupting my ability to do whatever I was on the site to do. Ads that don't do that, like say the text banner in my gmail account, still get through.

                    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                      And when you decide a static billboard isn't good enough, and replace it with a 1.21gigawatt projector and a huge set of speakers that go to 11 and aim both to blast through my window when I'm doing something else it's a declaration of war and I won't be taking prisoners. I don't know where the revenue model for the web is going to end up; but the barrage of video, talking, animated, content blocking, and seizure flashing banners/etc that elephanting advertiscum have been spraying all over the place are so far beyond the pale that they're not the answer. My blocking filters are entirely selfwritten; every banner host that's blocked and every page that's had all it's ad divs blocked has gotten on the list for disrupting my ability to do whatever I was on the site to do. Ads that don't do that, like say the text banner in my gmail account, still get through.

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                      0bx
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                      I hear you, but the point was that it's not the advertisers themselves that decided to sue.

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