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  • C Chris Maunder

    No, this[^].

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Matthew Dennis
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    That's the one I thought of immediately. Also of many late nights at work playing on the PCs that had enough horse power to play the game decently.

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      Copy-pasting my response to Chris : Why was it deleted though? It looks like a decent article, lots of effort, screenshots, code samples and detailed explanation. 40,000 views since December. 2000 code-sample downloads and 50 bookmarks. Can't have been bad enough to have got deleted surely? :~

      Regards, Nish


      Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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      syed shanu
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      Thank you Nish for your message, You are one of my Inshpiration to writing articles.

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      • C Chris Maunder

        syed shanu wrote:

        Author need's there own freedom to update their articles

        Absolutely. I'm not asking you to tell us step by step what you'll do. I was saying that you said "you'd update it" but that it didn't provide enough information / timeline for us to know whether you would update it today, tomorrow, or next week, and whether the updates would address the security issue. Step back and think about this from the point of view of an information provider. It's far, far better to have an article offline for a day or a few days and then have it back with solid information than it is to just leave it up, knowing hundreds of people were viewing, and using, that code. With regards to that message posted, my apologies! I was testing your account to ensure you had access to your articles and made a post while still testing your account. All fixed.

        cheers Chris Maunder

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        syed shanu
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        I accept what you mean Mr. Chris but still i did't get answer to my question. 1) The Article was published one month before since that time it got only upvotes nearly 38 and i can say you that voters are not my friends. 2)The same article was been in CP Home page for more then a week under "Latest Best Picks".Even during that time that article never get any down vote. 3)Only after it was been selected for best article voting it got down vote.So i don't know the reason behind this as you know all the down voted members are visiting CP regularly. 4)Day before early morning there was sudden down vote nearly 7 by members with same msg as need Password Security and needs to use ASP.Net Authentication. I don't think that article is Extremely poor quality and Misleading to others. You can read the article first i will start with question in that article as

        How to create a Login page?
        How to check valid user from Login and redirect to main page?
        How to display Logged in user name in all pages?
        How to bind data to Grid?
        How to search data and display in Grid?
        How to Insert/Select/Update and delete data from grid to database?
        How to write N-Tire Application for Asp.Net or for Winform?
        How to create a simple ASP.Net Web Application?

        Here its clear that the article is mainly dealing with what, and what the readers can get benefit from this article. For this article i don't think the Password security and ASP.NET Authentication is needed. If i have added user management in that article then surely i will be explain about Password Hashing and ASP.NET Authentication. As you can see that the goal of that article is not related to security or Authentication. This article is tutorial based and it has clear view of what users can get benefit from that. All the down vote was regarding Security and Authentication.I feel it was additional requirement needed to be added to that article so that the readers can get more detailed benefit. The reason for deleting all my other article is Mainly due to You Mr.Chris . Because you are main responsible person to CP. You should treat and post message very carefully so that others dont get hurt in that. Your message here in this conversations with other members.**

        However, the big guns brought out the really BFGs. The article is no more.

        **It seems like your intention is mainly focused on deleting that article rather then improving the article.Even during your downvote message you pointed as to delete the

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          I accept what you mean Mr. Chris but still i did't get answer to my question. 1) The Article was published one month before since that time it got only upvotes nearly 38 and i can say you that voters are not my friends. 2)The same article was been in CP Home page for more then a week under "Latest Best Picks".Even during that time that article never get any down vote. 3)Only after it was been selected for best article voting it got down vote.So i don't know the reason behind this as you know all the down voted members are visiting CP regularly. 4)Day before early morning there was sudden down vote nearly 7 by members with same msg as need Password Security and needs to use ASP.Net Authentication. I don't think that article is Extremely poor quality and Misleading to others. You can read the article first i will start with question in that article as

          How to create a Login page?
          How to check valid user from Login and redirect to main page?
          How to display Logged in user name in all pages?
          How to bind data to Grid?
          How to search data and display in Grid?
          How to Insert/Select/Update and delete data from grid to database?
          How to write N-Tire Application for Asp.Net or for Winform?
          How to create a simple ASP.Net Web Application?

          Here its clear that the article is mainly dealing with what, and what the readers can get benefit from this article. For this article i don't think the Password security and ASP.NET Authentication is needed. If i have added user management in that article then surely i will be explain about Password Hashing and ASP.NET Authentication. As you can see that the goal of that article is not related to security or Authentication. This article is tutorial based and it has clear view of what users can get benefit from that. All the down vote was regarding Security and Authentication.I feel it was additional requirement needed to be added to that article so that the readers can get more detailed benefit. The reason for deleting all my other article is Mainly due to You Mr.Chris . Because you are main responsible person to CP. You should treat and post message very carefully so that others dont get hurt in that. Your message here in this conversations with other members.**

          However, the big guns brought out the really BFGs. The article is no more.

          **It seems like your intention is mainly focused on deleting that article rather then improving the article.Even during your downvote message you pointed as to delete the

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          Chris Maunder
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          syed shanu wrote:

          The Article was published one month before since that time it got only upvotes nearly 38 and i can say you that voters are not my friends

          OK

          syed shanu wrote:

          The same article was been in CP Home page for more then a week under "Latest Best Picks".Even during that time that article never get any down vote.

          OK

          syed shanu wrote:

          Day before early morning there was sudden down vote nearly 7 by members with same msg as need Password Security and needs to use ASP.Net Authentication

          Yes there was. Troy Hunt, a very influential blogger and expert in authentication picked up on your article and slammed it. He, and his twitter followers, were very damning of your article. The community immediately took note of your article en masse and the down voting started.

          syed shanu wrote:

          For this article i don't think the Password security and ASP.NET Authentication is needed

          An excellent decision! Remove it and you have an article on CRUD. (I do have to ask, though: why do we need another article on CRUD? We have dozens and dozens and dozens)

          syed shanu wrote:

          It seems like your intention is mainly focused on deleting that article rather then improving the article

          My intention, as I have repeated multiple times, was to prevent dangerous code from being disseminated. You are an MVP. Your articles carry a lot of weight and the assumption that what you write is solid code.

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          No I cont accept that because its good to find the solution rather then just deleting the issue part

          You've completely ignored my point. The point I've made many times. Your article contained dangerous information and you gave no indication of when or how your update would take place. You had access to your article at all times and you could have simply updated and republished it. I was not willing to keep dangerous code lying around indefinitely.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          • C Chris Maunder

            syed shanu wrote:

            The Article was published one month before since that time it got only upvotes nearly 38 and i can say you that voters are not my friends

            OK

            syed shanu wrote:

            The same article was been in CP Home page for more then a week under "Latest Best Picks".Even during that time that article never get any down vote.

            OK

            syed shanu wrote:

            Day before early morning there was sudden down vote nearly 7 by members with same msg as need Password Security and needs to use ASP.Net Authentication

            Yes there was. Troy Hunt, a very influential blogger and expert in authentication picked up on your article and slammed it. He, and his twitter followers, were very damning of your article. The community immediately took note of your article en masse and the down voting started.

            syed shanu wrote:

            For this article i don't think the Password security and ASP.NET Authentication is needed

            An excellent decision! Remove it and you have an article on CRUD. (I do have to ask, though: why do we need another article on CRUD? We have dozens and dozens and dozens)

            syed shanu wrote:

            It seems like your intention is mainly focused on deleting that article rather then improving the article

            My intention, as I have repeated multiple times, was to prevent dangerous code from being disseminated. You are an MVP. Your articles carry a lot of weight and the assumption that what you write is solid code.

            syed shanu wrote:

            No I cont accept that because its good to find the solution rather then just deleting the issue part

            You've completely ignored my point. The point I've made many times. Your article contained dangerous information and you gave no indication of when or how your update would take place. You had access to your article at all times and you could have simply updated and republished it. I was not willing to keep dangerous code lying around indefinitely.

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            Now i got my answer**

            Yes there was. Troy Hunt, a very influential blogger and expert in authentication picked up on your article and slammed it. He, and his twitter followers, were very damning of your article. The community immediately took note of your article en masse and the down voting started.

            **I will republish it Mr.Chris.For me it will be always happy to work with chalanging works. Will update my article with in this week end ,Once article updatation dont i will send you the private mail you can check with that and mean time check with Troy Hunt.If you feel that updated article is good to publish you can send me back mail.Then i will publish it and all my other articles aswell.

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            • S syed shanu

              Now i got my answer**

              Yes there was. Troy Hunt, a very influential blogger and expert in authentication picked up on your article and slammed it. He, and his twitter followers, were very damning of your article. The community immediately took note of your article en masse and the down voting started.

              **I will republish it Mr.Chris.For me it will be always happy to work with chalanging works. Will update my article with in this week end ,Once article updatation dont i will send you the private mail you can check with that and mean time check with Troy Hunt.If you feel that updated article is good to publish you can send me back mail.Then i will publish it and all my other articles aswell.

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              Chris Maunder
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              Perfect.

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              • C Chris Maunder

                Perfect.

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                Nish Nishant
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                I've got to applaud this. A not so well known author, whose exit from this site would have had next to zero effect on the site's popularity vents his feelings. And you spend 45 minutes replying to him in detail, reassuring him, and ended up with a cordial solution. Sometimes it's the little things :-)

                Regards, Nish


                Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                • N Nish Nishant

                  I've got to applaud this. A not so well known author, whose exit from this site would have had next to zero effect on the site's popularity vents his feelings. And you spend 45 minutes replying to him in detail, reassuring him, and ended up with a cordial solution. Sometimes it's the little things :-)

                  Regards, Nish


                  Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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                  Chris Maunder
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                  You'd do exactly the same, Nish.

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  • S syed shanu

                    Thank you Nish for your message, You are one of my Inshpiration to writing articles.

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                    Mahsa Hassankashi
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                    Hello Dear Syed Shanu :) I was really confused and upset from this matter. On the one hand it was just a bit unfair to delete your article but on the other hand you are MVP developer and you should not delete all of your articles. Your problem just was a challenge in your life and if they deleted your article it does not mean your value is low, it just means you have a lot reputation and just for the sake of this you should prepare so more valuable and very near to standard line article, just because you are a most valuable professional you have to decrease your fault or gap in your article, so please go on and correct it instead of deleting all of your articles, your articles are so precious and please think that how many people are using them and refer to your knowledge and by removing it you just deprive good opportunity from developer in order to using your articles. I know that maybe someone`s points are not so kindly when they wanted to consider your deficits and they can behave more kindly but it is not a good reason for you to leave everything that you made them hardly during more years, but as I read comments I found out that Chris motivated you strongly to update your article, I think he just want to see your articles without any shortage and otherwise never ever he or his community did not select you as MVP. I hope see your updated article and the rest of other articles that you have deleted as soon as possible. :)

                    http://www.technical.cosmicverse.info http://www.cosmicverse.info

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                      Hello Dear Syed Shanu :) I was really confused and upset from this matter. On the one hand it was just a bit unfair to delete your article but on the other hand you are MVP developer and you should not delete all of your articles. Your problem just was a challenge in your life and if they deleted your article it does not mean your value is low, it just means you have a lot reputation and just for the sake of this you should prepare so more valuable and very near to standard line article, just because you are a most valuable professional you have to decrease your fault or gap in your article, so please go on and correct it instead of deleting all of your articles, your articles are so precious and please think that how many people are using them and refer to your knowledge and by removing it you just deprive good opportunity from developer in order to using your articles. I know that maybe someone`s points are not so kindly when they wanted to consider your deficits and they can behave more kindly but it is not a good reason for you to leave everything that you made them hardly during more years, but as I read comments I found out that Chris motivated you strongly to update your article, I think he just want to see your articles without any shortage and otherwise never ever he or his community did not select you as MVP. I hope see your updated article and the rest of other articles that you have deleted as soon as possible. :)

                      http://www.technical.cosmicverse.info http://www.cosmicverse.info

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                      Snesh Prajapati
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                      Ditto. Well said Mahasa.....I would like to say same things and wish so :thumbsup: Thanks.

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        You'd do exactly the same, Nish.

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        Snesh Prajapati
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                        You are so generous :thumbsup: So proud to be part of such community. Thanks.

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          Mika Wendelius wrote:

                          should the criteria for removing votes take the member voting weight into account

                          It is. Unfortunately there were too many high votes that still outweighed the low votes. A few more big guns downvoting would have tipped the scales. However, the big guns brought out the really BFGs. The article is no more.

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          Bassam Abdul Baki
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                          His member profile says Legend even though his Article count is now 0. Should that be fixed or are you freezing his last known status?

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