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  • C Chris Maunder

    The articles in question are articles that were deleted and then republished. An article's "posted" date is the date at which it becomes publicly available. If an article is deleted then republished we set the "publicly available" date as the date it was republished. An author, for various reasons, decided to remove all their articles, and then decided to republish all their articles. I'll let the voters decide on the articles in question.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    Chris, I am not sure if we are seeing the same situation. I already deleted an article and when I published it again, it came with 0 votes and no previous history. But this was a long time ago, so I don't know if things changed. Yet, what bothers me is that any article that already has votes and is republished immediately becomes the "Latest Best Pick" because it is seen as new by the system, yet full of votes that were got before the article was republished. It seems that it is not considering only the new votes since it was republished, so, an article that got hundreds of votes during years, if it is republished, becomes the "Best Pick" because it has hundreds of votes, while a new article, very good, with 50 votes in a single day, will stay at second... or fifth, when there are too many articles in that situation. And, if it was to be able to appear in the latest best picks, I believe that any update to an article should be allowed to appear there too.

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      Chris, I am not sure if we are seeing the same situation. I already deleted an article and when I published it again, it came with 0 votes and no previous history. But this was a long time ago, so I don't know if things changed. Yet, what bothers me is that any article that already has votes and is republished immediately becomes the "Latest Best Pick" because it is seen as new by the system, yet full of votes that were got before the article was republished. It seems that it is not considering only the new votes since it was republished, so, an article that got hundreds of votes during years, if it is republished, becomes the "Best Pick" because it has hundreds of votes, while a new article, very good, with 50 votes in a single day, will stay at second... or fifth, when there are too many articles in that situation. And, if it was to be able to appear in the latest best picks, I believe that any update to an article should be allowed to appear there too.

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      Kenneth Haugland
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      That's not my main problem, it is that they have a relatively high rating, but are horrible articles. They flourish with mistakes and bad practice advice. If that's how futile the voting system is, then we might as well skip the votes all together, in my mind.

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      • K Kenneth Haugland

        That's not my main problem, it is that they have a relatively high rating, but are horrible articles. They flourish with mistakes and bad practice advice. If that's how futile the voting system is, then we might as well skip the votes all together, in my mind.

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        OriginalGriff
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        There is a new procedure in place (for testing, I think) to try and re-jig this. If you can point me at the bad practice articles, I'd be pleased to give it a try.

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
        "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          There is a new procedure in place (for testing, I think) to try and re-jig this. If you can point me at the bad practice articles, I'd be pleased to give it a try.

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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          Kenneth Haugland
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          This one was pretty bad: Basic C# OOP Concept[^] I did notice that the rating went down from 4.01 to 3.91 when I voted.

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            This one was pretty bad: Basic C# OOP Concept[^] I did notice that the rating went down from 4.01 to 3.91 when I voted.

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            OriginalGriff
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            I knocked it down another 0.1 as well... I've tried the new reporting system, and I'll see what happens. Still, at least the author has 70 friends. Or 70 sock puppets...

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              I knocked it down another 0.1 as well... I've tried the new reporting system, and I'll see what happens. Still, at least the author has 70 friends. Or 70 sock puppets...

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              Or he has 70 students, god forbid :~ He has some other bad articles as well, but I think this was the worst.

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                There is a new procedure in place (for testing, I think) to try and re-jig this. If you can point me at the bad practice articles, I'd be pleased to give it a try.

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                Chris Maunder
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                A summary[^]

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  A summary[^]

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  Not the one I meant - talk to Sean about the email he sent me yesterday - but a damn good idea! :thumbsup:

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Not the one I meant - talk to Sean about the email he sent me yesterday - but a damn good idea! :thumbsup:

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                    Ah yes.

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    • C Chris Maunder

                      Ah yes.

                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                      Paulo Zemek
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                      I agree with the new voting system... yet to me the latest best picks should be only to new articles. Republished articles can only be considered new if they were deleted and republished when they were actually new yet.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        There is a new procedure in place (for testing, I think) to try and re-jig this. If you can point me at the bad practice articles, I'd be pleased to give it a try.

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                        If the try was the "innacurate/misleading" report, we have make it work. Article is gone.

                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                        • C Chris Maunder

                          A summary[^]

                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                          Nelek
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                          Nice :thumbsup::thumbsup:

                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            If the try was the "innacurate/misleading" report, we have make it work. Article is gone.

                            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                            Kenneth Haugland
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                            Yes, but I count on the voting system to filter out the articles that are really good and I can learn a lot from. Having false votes is a nightmare, especially if someone is unknown author, or new to the CodeProject site and know which ones to trust. I don't know about you but I cant read thousands of articles to find the good stuff, I need some help in selecting which ones to read.

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                            • K Kenneth Haugland

                              Yes, but I count on the voting system to filter out the articles that are really good and I can learn a lot from. Having false votes is a nightmare, especially if someone is unknown author, or new to the CodeProject site and know which ones to trust. I don't know about you but I cant read thousands of articles to find the good stuff, I need some help in selecting which ones to read.

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                              Nelek
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                              I know and I agree with you. My answer was to OG, a bit offtopic to your point, sorry :)

                              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                I know and I agree with you. My answer was to OG, a bit offtopic to your point, sorry :)

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                Kenneth Haugland
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                                That's all right, I'm just a bit frustrated about it so I get a bit wired up :laugh:

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