Why do so many software engineers hate Java?
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I do not hate it. The reason I use java is because its similar to C# and supports Android, and there were things that I hated in Java but there were also things I liked them. I do not remember right now, but Java is not that bad.
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Love it drink two cups every morning...oh you mean the language...Oracle!
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I remember when Java was released. It was originally marketed as a tool to create web plugins -- applets. I remember writing the "hello, world" applet and running it in Netscape Navigator. Then I waited, waited, waited. The UI tools weren't there either and Visual C++ and MFC let you do so much. However, it took quite a few years for Java to get fast enough to create a real applet that could do anything. By that time there were other non-plugin methods and I had even more Visual C++ desktop experience and then C# arose. Java was always just one step behind for me. Now, I've learned quite a bit of Java because I own an android pad and I'm very interested in development for it. Java isn't so bad now. For Android development. Plus the absolute explosion of toolkits which actuall all do the same thing -- due to opensource nature of Java -- makes getting into it a huge research project. And yet, I don't hate it. I wonder why not. :D
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I don't hate Java itself. But that ask.com is really f**king annoying and makes me keep away from Java.
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If you put Java on a technical trial, it doesn't do so bad.
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Strange question... I'd rather asked: "Why do so many software engineers love C/C++?"
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If you put Java on a technical trial, it doesn't do so bad.
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I hate Adobe und Symantec for their crappy product, but Java isnt so bad. I like C++ and C#. And my love got Objective-C and maybe someday Swift. They make working fun and are reliable with good and usable code, documentation and API and class structure.
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It doesn't help that it attempts to install crapware every time you do an installation/update.
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Absolutely fantastic article. Applies in many ways to other languages like Ruby too. Marc
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Easy... When it first came out, it was slow, clunky, and made everyone miserable every time it appeared in their browser. These days, it's slightly-faster-but-still-slow, slightly-less-clunky-but-still-clunky, and still makes everyone miserable if it appears in their browser (Don't confuse Java with JavaScript). I'd rather use C#... Basically, C# is to Java as Windows 7 is to Vista. First you do it, then you do it right.
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If you put Java on a technical trial, it doesn't do so bad.
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The article was mostly blah blah blah to me, but 2 words from the last sentence describe what I think of Java: ugly & counterproductive. Like for many people, Java was the first language I learned when I really started programming. Later, I learned some other languages and discovered that Java is just a dumb language. I can't say I hate it, but it's just ugly and messy. It's never neat or beautiful (like C#)
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Strange question... I'd rather asked: "Why do so many software engineers love C/C++?"
Well... if you got to ask, then it ain't worth 'splainin'. :D C is the greatest language of all time and was even great before time began. Then, along comes C with Classes (C++). That's better than anything else ever before or ever after. Plus, it's still all cryptic like and keeps the scipt-kiddies and their ilk out.
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The article was mostly blah blah blah to me, but 2 words from the last sentence describe what I think of Java: ugly & counterproductive. Like for many people, Java was the first language I learned when I really started programming. Later, I learned some other languages and discovered that Java is just a dumb language. I can't say I hate it, but it's just ugly and messy. It's never neat or beautiful (like C#)
Dennis_E wrote:
it's just ugly and messy. It's never neat or beautiful (like C#)
I really do think you are right about that. Java has the OpenSource feeling that it just never got to stability and things kept getting tacked on. Can't ever get your bearings.
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Really, the main reason the author of the article puts forth that Java is bad is because "It is programming for the masses." I remember being a C++ developer and along came Java and everyone could program. Mmmm...hmmm... couldn't they now. VisualBasic was the same way or worse.
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Well... if you got to ask, then it ain't worth 'splainin'. :D C is the greatest language of all time and was even great before time began. Then, along comes C with Classes (C++). That's better than anything else ever before or ever after. Plus, it's still all cryptic like and keeps the scipt-kiddies and their ilk out.
Thank you for the short story, but...I wanted to be provocative. Of course there's plenty of cases where a low-level language is useful and often mandatory, but... ...my question could be asked as "Why do so many SE use C/C++ for large pieces of software, when there are many super-powerful languages and super-powerful hardwares?" Don't want to fore a discussion, though... :)
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Hate? Hate is illogical and immature. IMO it is because software engineers are among most opinionated people on the face of the Earth. It's simple as that. With that being written, I can openly say I strongly dislike Java. :) My opinion is quite a bit influenced with the fact that early in my career I was kind of forced to adopt it.
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Well... if you got to ask, then it ain't worth 'splainin'. :D C is the greatest language of all time and was even great before time began. Then, along comes C with Classes (C++). That's better than anything else ever before or ever after. Plus, it's still all cryptic like and keeps the scipt-kiddies and their ilk out.
newton.saber wrote:
C ... snip ... was even great before time began.
In the beginning was 'Malloc ?
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newton.saber wrote:
C ... snip ... was even great before time began.
In the beginning was 'Malloc ?
«To kill an error's as good a service, sometimes better than, establishing new truth or fact.» Charles Darwin in "Prospero's Precepts"
