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  • M Marc Clifton

    I think you just proved why I have such a low opinion of VB programmers. (Marc ducks and runs for cover)

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    Duncan Edwards Jones
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    It'd probably be as ugly in C#with the need for explicit interface implementation

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    • D Duncan Edwards Jones

      It'd probably be as ugly in C#with the need for explicit interface implementation

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      It's been a while since I've seen any VB..

      Public ReadOnly Property Enabled As Boolean
      Get
      Return m_enabled
      End Get
      End Property

      C# certainly appears to be slightly cleaner in my opinion, although it's a matter of preference/working environment/etc..

      public readonly bool Enabled { get { return m_enabled; } }

      How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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        It's been a while since I've seen any VB..

        Public ReadOnly Property Enabled As Boolean
        Get
        Return m_enabled
        End Get
        End Property

        C# certainly appears to be slightly cleaner in my opinion, although it's a matter of preference/working environment/etc..

        public readonly bool Enabled { get { return m_enabled; } }

        How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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        Duncan Edwards Jones
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        You can do implied getters/setters in VB (and C#) to save a bit of space. It was more the one implements of the interface per event handler that was the OMG part.

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          You can do implied getters/setters in VB (and C#) to save a bit of space. It was more the one implements of the interface per event handler that was the OMG part.

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          I've seen a lot (lot) worse, tbh :(

          How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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            It's been a while since I've seen any VB..

            Public ReadOnly Property Enabled As Boolean
            Get
            Return m_enabled
            End Get
            End Property

            C# certainly appears to be slightly cleaner in my opinion, although it's a matter of preference/working environment/etc..

            public readonly bool Enabled { get { return m_enabled; } }

            How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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            Sander Rossel
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            Public Property Something As String
            Get
            Return _Something
            End Get
            Set(value As String)
            _Something = value
            End Set
            End Property

            public string Something
            {
            get
            {
            return _Something;
            }
            set
            {
            _Something = value;
            }
            }

            That's eight vs. eleven lines. It adds up! I always find VB has a vertical cleanliness whereas C# has a horizontal cleanliness :) I love both languages by the way. It's just a little bit easier to write messy code in VB due to backwards compatibility with VB1-6, but you can write utter crap in both languages any language! Started out in VB.NET and later moved to C#.

            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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              Public Property Something As String
              Get
              Return _Something
              End Get
              Set(value As String)
              _Something = value
              End Set
              End Property

              public string Something
              {
              get
              {
              return _Something;
              }
              set
              {
              _Something = value;
              }
              }

              That's eight vs. eleven lines. It adds up! I always find VB has a vertical cleanliness whereas C# has a horizontal cleanliness :) I love both languages by the way. It's just a little bit easier to write messy code in VB due to backwards compatibility with VB1-6, but you can write utter crap in both languages any language! Started out in VB.NET and later moved to C#.

              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              In your example, VB has 20 keywords, variable names, etc. C# has 9. Nuff said :)

              How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                In your example, VB has 20 keywords, variable names, etc. C# has 9. Nuff said :)

                How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                Sander Rossel
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                #9

                But still less vertical space! :laugh:

                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                Regards, Sander

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  But still less vertical space! :laugh:

                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                  Regards, Sander

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                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                  But still less vertical space! :laugh:

                  public string Something
                  {
                  get { return _Something; }
                  set { _Something = value; }
                  }

                  Where, exactly?

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                    Sander Rossel wrote:

                    But still less vertical space! :laugh:

                    public string Something
                    {
                    get { return _Something; }
                    set { _Something = value; }
                    }

                    Where, exactly?

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                    Sander Rossel
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                    #11

                    Stop ruining my point with your better syntax![^] :laugh: So maybe properties aren't the best example... Let's look at a switch statement? Always loved them in VB, but disliked them in C# (mandatory break!?)... :)

                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                    Regards, Sander

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                      Sander Rossel wrote:

                      But still less vertical space! :laugh:

                      public string Something
                      {
                      get { return _Something; }
                      set { _Something = value; }
                      }

                      Where, exactly?

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                      Yep, that's how I would write simple getters and setters. I only go multiline if there's some additional logic in there :)

                      How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                      • L Lost User

                        Sander Rossel wrote:

                        But still less vertical space! :laugh:

                        public string Something
                        {
                        get { return _Something; }
                        set { _Something = value; }
                        }

                        Where, exactly?

                        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                        Sinisa Hajnal
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                        In VB.NET you could type only Public String Something variable _Someting would be internally created and accessible without explicit definition. I don't know if they added it in C# too.. While there are more keywords, intellisense is better and there is actually less typing in vb version :)

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                          In VB.NET you could type only Public String Something variable _Someting would be internally created and accessible without explicit definition. I don't know if they added it in C# too.. While there are more keywords, intellisense is better and there is actually less typing in vb version :)

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                          Similar like C#, but there the generated backing-field is not accessible. http://www.infoq.com/news/2009/06/Auto-Properties[^]

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                          • D Duncan Edwards Jones

                            One of my own little beauties to show why I should be kept on a short leash...

                            ''' <summary>
                            ''' Projection over the client event stream to summarise the state of a client
                            ''' </summary>
                            Public NotInheritable Class ClientSummaryProjection
                            Inherits ProjectionBase(Of AggregateIdentifiers.ClientAggregateIdentity)
                            Implements IEventConsumer(Of AggregateIdentifiers.ClientAggregateIdentity, Events.Client.NewBazaarCreatedEvent)
                            Implements IEventConsumer(Of AggregateIdentifiers.ClientAggregateIdentity, Events.Client.BazaarClosedEvent)
                            Implements IEventConsumer(Of AggregateIdentifiers.ClientAggregateIdentity, Events.Client.CreatedEvent)
                            Implements IEventConsumer(Of AggregateIdentifiers.ClientAggregateIdentity, Events.Client.ClientNameChangedEvent)
                            Implements IEventConsumer(Of AggregateIdentifiers.ClientAggregateIdentity, Events.Client.DisabledEvent)
                            Implements IEventConsumer(Of AggregateIdentifiers.ClientAggregateIdentity, Events.Client.EnabledEvent)

                            ReadOnly m\_identity As AggregateIdentifiers.ClientAggregateIdentity
                            ''' <summary>
                            ''' The aggregate identifier of the client over which this projection applies
                            ''' </summary>
                            Public Overrides ReadOnly Property Identity As AggregateIdentifiers.ClientAggregateIdentity
                                Get
                                    Return m\_identity
                                End Get
                            End Property
                            
                            
                            Private m\_openBazaars As Integer
                            ''' <summary>
                            ''' The number of Bazaars open at this point in time
                            ''' </summary>
                            Public ReadOnly Property OpenBazaars As Integer
                                Get
                                    Return m\_openBazaars
                                End Get
                            End Property
                            
                            Private m\_totalBazaars As Integer
                            ''' <summary>
                            ''' The total number of bazaars ever opened for this client at this point in time
                            ''' </summary>
                            Public ReadOnly Property TotalBazaars As Integer
                                Get
                                    Return m\_totalBazaars
                                End Get
                            End Property
                            
                            Private m\_clientName As String
                            ''' <summary>
                            ''' The full display name to use for the client
                            ''' </summary>
                            Public ReadOnly Property ClientName As String
                                Get
                                    Return m\_clientName
                                End Get
                            End Property
                            
                            
                            Private m\_enabled As Boolean = True
                            ''' <summary>
                            '
                            
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                            Nagy Vilmos
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                            VB? I see why you're ashamed!

                            veni bibi saltavi

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                              VB? I see why you're ashamed!

                              veni bibi saltavi

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                              expected ';' ;P

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