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    Jason Jason Jason Can -- open Worms -- everywhere Dave Huff Igor would you give me a hand with the bags? Certainly - you take the blonde and I'll take the one in the turban!

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    Thats a 5:laugh: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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      That's my take on it as well, but I have never spoken directly to an arab about this and I wanted to discuss it with Samer12 in the open. Maybe I could get his point of view. Not saying that I would agree with him, but I wouldn't be ignorant of the Arab view point.

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      #define KILL_INFIDEL true #define ARAB_POINT_OF_VIEW KILL_INFIDEL #define KILL_ARAB false #define ARAB_POINT_OF_VIEW_KILL_ARAB KILL_ARAB amazing two different standards Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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        So..... its ok for you guys to kill each other, but no one else has a right to live? When offered a comprimise like Clinton had nearly worked out the glass is half empty? Israel had that land long before the Palestinians, hell nobody in the region has a "natural" border. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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        Heck, they're all related! They both claim to be descendants of Abraham.

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          Heck, they're all related! They both claim to be descendants of Abraham.

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          I realize that, they're to damn stupid to realize it though. If you look Christianity, Judaism, and Islam aren't that far apart, its the nuts that decide to make the people that far apart.:confused: I don't get it, but I'm to the point that I just want my country, my countrymen, and myself to be safe. If they are going to come here to hurt us, then the people responsible will be found and removed. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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            So..... its ok for you guys to kill each other, but no one else has a right to live? When offered a comprimise like Clinton had nearly worked out the glass is half empty? Israel had that land long before the Palestinians, hell nobody in the region has a "natural" border. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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            Stan Shannon
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            Doug Goulden wrote: Israel had that land long before the Palestinians, By that logic we should give Ohio back to the Shawnees. I sympathise with the Palestinians, but I also believe they are being played for saps by their own leadership for whom Israel is just a means of keeping their people from focusing their anger against them. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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              As an extension to this thread, http://www.codeproject.com/script/comments/forums.asp?forumid=2605&select=455350&df=100&tid=454986#xx455350xx[^], I want to "publicly" discuss the Arab hatred for Israel. Samer12 wrote: I must admit that I hate Israel ,what is the problem in that? do you like/support those terrorists you seem like a nice guy,so I will tell you the truth no arab in the universe will say he likes Israel this is a very serious matter to all of us I want to know why you hate them so much. Why is it such a serious matter to all Arabs? Can there ever be peace in the Middle East and a state of Israel?

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              Joao Paulo Figueira
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              Not that I'm adding much, but actually there are Israeli Arabs (they were born there). These guys cannot hate themselves. Maybe you should ask if they hate the non-arab Israelis.

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              • J Jason Henderson

                As an extension to this thread, http://www.codeproject.com/script/comments/forums.asp?forumid=2605&select=455350&df=100&tid=454986#xx455350xx[^], I want to "publicly" discuss the Arab hatred for Israel. Samer12 wrote: I must admit that I hate Israel ,what is the problem in that? do you like/support those terrorists you seem like a nice guy,so I will tell you the truth no arab in the universe will say he likes Israel this is a very serious matter to all of us I want to know why you hate them so much. Why is it such a serious matter to all Arabs? Can there ever be peace in the Middle East and a state of Israel?

                Jason Henderson
                "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

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                Lost User
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                In this situation the details are somewhat unimportant. We have two groups of people who both take their respective religions VERY seriously. Both seem to think God has directed them to live in the EXACT same location. The details are irrelevent, the problem lies in the overall concept. Mike Mullikin :beer:

                "I'm not calling you a liar but....I can't think of a way to finish that sentence." - Bart Simpson

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                  Samer12 wrote: how sweet of you? Its a serious question. Samer12 wrote: If some one came into your home From your bio, you live in Egypt. How is Israel coming into your home? Why are Palestinians who have lived in Jordan since the 50s still considered refugees? Or are they? I'm not an expert on Israel, so maybe someone can enlighten me. Do they allow Palestinians to have representation in the Israeli government? Can Palestinians vote?

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                  How is Israel coming into your home? I am talking metaforicaly speaking,they tried once if you dont know back in 67 Or are they? they are Can Palestinians vote? they cant have a home how can they vote La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                    So..... its ok for you guys to kill each other, but no one else has a right to live? When offered a comprimise like Clinton had nearly worked out the glass is half empty? Israel had that land long before the Palestinians, hell nobody in the region has a "natural" border. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                    So..... its ok for you guys to kill each other who is killing each other Israel had that land long before the Palestinians, hell nobody in the region has a "natural" border. It is not tru your are talking about moses ,read well man,if you live in america dont bother ,medi is controlled by Israel and if so please leave america immediatly because there were no america and give to its natural residents they even have the nerve to say that the pyramids is thiers how rude La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                    • J Jason Henderson

                      As an extension to this thread, http://www.codeproject.com/script/comments/forums.asp?forumid=2605&select=455350&df=100&tid=454986#xx455350xx[^], I want to "publicly" discuss the Arab hatred for Israel. Samer12 wrote: I must admit that I hate Israel ,what is the problem in that? do you like/support those terrorists you seem like a nice guy,so I will tell you the truth no arab in the universe will say he likes Israel this is a very serious matter to all of us I want to know why you hate them so much. Why is it such a serious matter to all Arabs? Can there ever be peace in the Middle East and a state of Israel?

                      Jason Henderson
                      "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

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                      Jonas Larsson
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                      I've been curious about this too, and the history of the middle east. Found this[^] page earlier today. I dont know how biased it is, but it shows alot of reasons why there's resentment between the two peoples. (is 'peoples' a word, or am I forgetting my high school english?) “Our solar system is Jupiter and a bunch of junk” - Charley Lineweaver 2002

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                      • J Jason Henderson

                        As an extension to this thread, http://www.codeproject.com/script/comments/forums.asp?forumid=2605&select=455350&df=100&tid=454986#xx455350xx[^], I want to "publicly" discuss the Arab hatred for Israel. Samer12 wrote: I must admit that I hate Israel ,what is the problem in that? do you like/support those terrorists you seem like a nice guy,so I will tell you the truth no arab in the universe will say he likes Israel this is a very serious matter to all of us I want to know why you hate them so much. Why is it such a serious matter to all Arabs? Can there ever be peace in the Middle East and a state of Israel?

                        Jason Henderson
                        "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

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                        Megan Forbes
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                        The first thing to understand about this I think is that the conflict goes back so many generations that it's now impossible to try to say who was originally to blame. Obviously both sides have so many incidents they can quote against each other now, that it's very hard for them to "look outside the box" and be rational on this subject. Firstly, it's very sad that they can't get on. They are closely related. With regards to today's conflict, as far as I can tell muslims all round the world take the Arab side - even those from far off places like Bangladesh who don't have a drop of Arab blood in their bodies. The biblical wars and history on the issue go a long way back, and I am no scholar on the issue. However, they hated each other then as well. I am no scholar on the next phase either, but have read quite a bit about it. Surprisingly, Mohammed thought the Jews were a race to which his people should aspire. In fact, he invited them to come and live with the arabs, teach them their skills, medicine, etc. Sadly, when Mohammed died, as is so often the case, his word got twisted. His followers starting to persecute the Jews, saying they were now God's chosen people, and the Jews were now cursed. This is not unique in history, except that this time the Jews' religion had been incorporated into another community. The Jews left, and the hatred between Jews and Muslims was born. Around the 1880's Jews started an attempt to rebuild their homeland. Pilgrimages unlike anything we can imagine took place. Some of them spent 2 years walking from Russia to Isreal. Again, they took with them skills which were valuable. It's important to remember that because of their religion all Jewish males at least were educated. They had to be to read their scriptures. When they arrived in Palestine they found a land which alternated between swamp and desert. The people living there lived in relatively primative conditions, and welcomed the Jews in return for education and things like running water systems. Between this time and WW2 this continued, but relations started turning sour. The Jews bought desert and swamp, and turned it into arable land through pure hard labour. As far as I know, up until WW2 any land in the newfound country had been purchased (my reading of the events has been far more sparse from WW2 onwards, so I can't really comment on that). Once the land had been turned into high production farms the original owners felt they had been tricked. This lead to more hatred. When WW2 ended many J

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                          #define KILL_INFIDEL true #define ARAB_POINT_OF_VIEW KILL_INFIDEL #define KILL_ARAB false #define ARAB_POINT_OF_VIEW_KILL_ARAB KILL_ARAB amazing two different standards Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                          are you xionist man,or you got the brain wash they do for americans La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                            Doug Goulden wrote: Israel had that land long before the Palestinians, By that logic we should give Ohio back to the Shawnees. I sympathise with the Palestinians, but I also believe they are being played for saps by their own leadership for whom Israel is just a means of keeping their people from focusing their anger against them. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                            Stan Shannon wrote: I also believe they are being played for saps by their own leadership for whom Israel is just a means of keeping their people from focusing their anger against them. Bingo! How is it that there are Palestinian refugees 50 years on in a land that is so dominated by a religion of 'love and peace'. Refugees displaced in almost every other conflict have not been left to sit and rot for 50 years. The Palestinians have been used as a whipping post by the rest of the Arab world for years. Bushs statement that he would no longer deal with Arafat is probably the biggest step forward. Until the Palestinian death cult mentality is changed there will be no peace there. Dave Huff Igor would you give me a hand with the bags? Certainly - you take the blonde and I'll take the one in the turban!

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                            • J Jason Henderson

                              That's my take on it as well, but I have never spoken directly to an arab about this and I wanted to discuss it with Samer12 in the open. Maybe I could get his point of view. Not saying that I would agree with him, but I wouldn't be ignorant of the Arab view point.

                              Jason Henderson
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                              I will find some documentation to send you,all they say is not tru dont you eatch t.v ,what about the american girl who was ran over by a buldozer ,what about a boy who went to buy bread for his family and found shot in the head lying on his stomach,nacked,the media got it all on tv,are palastinians making that up to trough Israelis out of their homes,where are their home,Poland,Russia,America not palastine did palastinians ever tried to destroy any religios place even jews's,they are trying to destroy alaqsa mosqu which is a very important mosqu to all muslims,Islam is about peace,love we dont want any war,we pray 5 times a day we fast with no food ,no water for 12 hours ,30days each year ,to feel how a poor man feel and help them,tell me does this look like an evil person who does all this,women wear vail(scarf to cover their hair)so as she is not wanted by other men except her husbend to hold love in between men and wives,we are commited to charity that we must pay a certain amount to the poor,does this people look like killers,this is brief cause I have to go,I will send you documentations,and belive me all this will come to an end one day then you will be sure of the truth La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                                The first thing to understand about this I think is that the conflict goes back so many generations that it's now impossible to try to say who was originally to blame. Obviously both sides have so many incidents they can quote against each other now, that it's very hard for them to "look outside the box" and be rational on this subject. Firstly, it's very sad that they can't get on. They are closely related. With regards to today's conflict, as far as I can tell muslims all round the world take the Arab side - even those from far off places like Bangladesh who don't have a drop of Arab blood in their bodies. The biblical wars and history on the issue go a long way back, and I am no scholar on the issue. However, they hated each other then as well. I am no scholar on the next phase either, but have read quite a bit about it. Surprisingly, Mohammed thought the Jews were a race to which his people should aspire. In fact, he invited them to come and live with the arabs, teach them their skills, medicine, etc. Sadly, when Mohammed died, as is so often the case, his word got twisted. His followers starting to persecute the Jews, saying they were now God's chosen people, and the Jews were now cursed. This is not unique in history, except that this time the Jews' religion had been incorporated into another community. The Jews left, and the hatred between Jews and Muslims was born. Around the 1880's Jews started an attempt to rebuild their homeland. Pilgrimages unlike anything we can imagine took place. Some of them spent 2 years walking from Russia to Isreal. Again, they took with them skills which were valuable. It's important to remember that because of their religion all Jewish males at least were educated. They had to be to read their scriptures. When they arrived in Palestine they found a land which alternated between swamp and desert. The people living there lived in relatively primative conditions, and welcomed the Jews in return for education and things like running water systems. Between this time and WW2 this continued, but relations started turning sour. The Jews bought desert and swamp, and turned it into arable land through pure hard labour. As far as I know, up until WW2 any land in the newfound country had been purchased (my reading of the events has been far more sparse from WW2 onwards, so I can't really comment on that). Once the land had been turned into high production farms the original owners felt they had been tricked. This lead to more hatred. When WW2 ended many J

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                                jews tried to poison prophet Mohamed (sala allah alehe wa salam)if you dont know and betrayed them all you read is not true La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                                  So..... its ok for you guys to kill each other who is killing each other Israel had that land long before the Palestinians, hell nobody in the region has a "natural" border. It is not tru your are talking about moses ,read well man,if you live in america dont bother ,medi is controlled by Israel and if so please leave america immediatly because there were no america and give to its natural residents they even have the nerve to say that the pyramids is thiers how rude La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                                  Samer12 wrote: who is killing each other In an earlier post: Samer12 wrote: some one came into your home ,crushed your door,killed your family ,slept in your bed,ate your food ,then another one tells you give him the whole house and take one room ,you took the room lived in there still he kills your kids :confused: You're not keeping your story straight... - Nitron


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                                    jews tried to poison prophet Mohamed (sala allah alehe wa salam)if you dont know and betrayed them all you read is not true La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

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                                    Samer12 wrote: jews tried to poison prophet Mohamed All of them, or a radical group? Hatred sees groups of people, peace can only be achieved when we see individuals. :)


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                                      Doug Goulden wrote: Israel had that land long before the Palestinians, By that logic we should give Ohio back to the Shawnees. I sympathise with the Palestinians, but I also believe they are being played for saps by their own leadership for whom Israel is just a means of keeping their people from focusing their anger against them. "My job is to protect America" George W. Bush.

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                                      Stan Shannon wrote: By that logic we should give Ohio back to the Shawnees All I meant was to say that the Palestinians always argue that the land of Israel was theirs first. Personally I belong to the get over it camp. Most of the people doing most of the griping weren't even born when Israel was created and its to late to gripe now. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

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                                        The first thing to understand about this I think is that the conflict goes back so many generations that it's now impossible to try to say who was originally to blame. Obviously both sides have so many incidents they can quote against each other now, that it's very hard for them to "look outside the box" and be rational on this subject. Firstly, it's very sad that they can't get on. They are closely related. With regards to today's conflict, as far as I can tell muslims all round the world take the Arab side - even those from far off places like Bangladesh who don't have a drop of Arab blood in their bodies. The biblical wars and history on the issue go a long way back, and I am no scholar on the issue. However, they hated each other then as well. I am no scholar on the next phase either, but have read quite a bit about it. Surprisingly, Mohammed thought the Jews were a race to which his people should aspire. In fact, he invited them to come and live with the arabs, teach them their skills, medicine, etc. Sadly, when Mohammed died, as is so often the case, his word got twisted. His followers starting to persecute the Jews, saying they were now God's chosen people, and the Jews were now cursed. This is not unique in history, except that this time the Jews' religion had been incorporated into another community. The Jews left, and the hatred between Jews and Muslims was born. Around the 1880's Jews started an attempt to rebuild their homeland. Pilgrimages unlike anything we can imagine took place. Some of them spent 2 years walking from Russia to Isreal. Again, they took with them skills which were valuable. It's important to remember that because of their religion all Jewish males at least were educated. They had to be to read their scriptures. When they arrived in Palestine they found a land which alternated between swamp and desert. The people living there lived in relatively primative conditions, and welcomed the Jews in return for education and things like running water systems. Between this time and WW2 this continued, but relations started turning sour. The Jews bought desert and swamp, and turned it into arable land through pure hard labour. As far as I know, up until WW2 any land in the newfound country had been purchased (my reading of the events has been far more sparse from WW2 onwards, so I can't really comment on that). Once the land had been turned into high production farms the original owners felt they had been tricked. This lead to more hatred. When WW2 ended many J

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                                        Wow Meg, that was a lot of information. I now understand this issue much more than I could have imagined, till just a while ago. Thanks. :)
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                                          Wow Meg, that was a lot of information. I now understand this issue much more than I could have imagined, till just a while ago. Thanks. :)
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                                          Rohit Sinha

                                          ...celebrating Indian spirit and Cricket. 8MB video, really cool!

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                                          Rohit  Sinha wrote: Wow Meg, that was a lot of information. I now understand this issue much more than I could have imagined, :) You read all my ramblings? :eek: Sounds like someone deserves a tea break... :-O


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