Let me be Hitler ten-fold!

Jorgen Sigvardsson

Relativity applies to many things, but this case is as absolute as it gets. :) -- Tune your mind, reach inside, peel away Touch, Taste, Feel, Saturation

Sean Reilly

Ed Gadziemski wrote: So you supported Iraq's 1993 assassination attempt for political purposes on Bush Sr? Doug didn't clarify enough ... only Americans can do the assassinating.

Doug Goulden

I need to clarify I believe in the use of assasination only in cases where the alternative is worse. Ed Gadziemski wrote: So you supported Iraq's 1993 assassination attempt for political purposes on Bush Sr Obviously not, but here's my point. If there is a choice between going to war to remove one person who is a danger, like for example Hitler, Mugabe, Saddam, Idi Amin, UBL or fighting a war it would be dumb to kill potentially thousands. I'm not talking about assasinating someone who's politics you don't like. Is it a crime? Yes. But is it worse than fighting a war? No. The problem with the US in the past (and a lot of other countries) is that they used assasination as a political tool to help overthrow governments that opposed their interests. That I believe is wrong, the decision to assasinate the leader of any nation is realistically an act of war in itself, but let me ask you, if the CIA could have killed Sadaam and his sons (who were supposed to have been the reason we didn't remove Saddam in '91) would the people of Iraq have wanted to go to war? Probably not. Unfortunately, the world really isn't a black and white thing. I'm talking about the idea that sometimes things that aren't really good options are better than things that are really bad. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

Doug Goulden

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Lost User

It just explains that all these are just excuses to dominate others. The real intention is to have power over other people - and use whatever is available at their disposal. My article on a reference-counted smart pointer that supports polymorphic objects and raw pointers

Lost User

Tsk tsk, there you go, applying logic..... :rolleyes: Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

Ed Gadziemski

A valid points. I believe in the "slippery slope theory" on this topic, though. If we start doing it, then it becomes open season for other countries to assassinate our presidents. Also, once you start with those who could justifiably be taken out, it soon becomes a matter of political expediency to justify who should be taken out. Assuming one US president might do the right thing doesn't mean future presidents will. Those willing to trade liberty for security deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin

Doug Goulden

I agree completely, I should have said under certain conditions I would support the use of assasination BTW Hussein and his rotten kids would have been excellent cantidates. ;) Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

Paul Watson

If Mbeki can read that and still not want to topple Mugabe... then bring on the Africa Is Fucked talk because it must be so.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

Paul Watson

I seriously hope you are wrong about Chirac's intentions. That is exactly what Mbeki and other FUBAR African leaders are doing, treating Mugabe soft-softly. Worked great so far!!! :mad: It is not a nice gesture either. It is a slap in the face to the Zimbabwe people and shows other dictators they can fart about as they wish and all that will happen is that they are told "Settle down now please" as if they were in a school room and the worst thing that can happen is detention.

Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa

Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

KaRl

Blair and Chirac made a "secret" agreement at Copenhagen in December 2002 about Mugabe trip, UK accepting that this invitation was covered by the exception defined in the Article 3. of the EU sanctions declaration, France accepting to extend the sanctions period from February 2003 to February 2004.

Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons Cowboy Bebop

peterchen

Maybe he just tried to learn from our all big brother :rolleyes:

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