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LDF file Size is so increased

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  • A Azam Niaz Ch

    i have set it to full.

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    How have you done the log backup? (Remember that even full database backup will not truncate log if you are using full recovery mode...Only direct log backup will work here)

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      How have you done the log backup? (Remember that even full database backup will not truncate log if you are using full recovery mode...Only direct log backup will work here)

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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      Azam Niaz Ch
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      Dear I take full back of DB after that i take only logs backup then try to shrink the log file but failed to reduce the LDF size.

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      • A Azam Niaz Ch

        Dear I take full back of DB after that i take only logs backup then try to shrink the log file but failed to reduce the LDF size.

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        Can you share the commands you run?

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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          Can you share the commands you run?

          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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          Azam Niaz Ch
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          I do with MS management studio.

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          • A Azam Niaz Ch

            I do with MS management studio.

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            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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            OK. Explain how! (when you are using the Management Studio you have a 'Script' button at the top of the backup window. Pressing that button will give you the script Management Studio will run - copy that here!) (I ask you this because these kind of things are working so probably you miss something and I try to figure out what)

            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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            • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

              OK. Explain how! (when you are using the Management Studio you have a 'Script' button at the top of the backup window. Pressing that button will give you the script Management Studio will run - copy that here!) (I ask you this because these kind of things are working so probably you miss something and I try to figure out what)

              Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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              Azam Niaz Ch
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              Please see the generated script USE [TEST_APP] GO DBCC SHRINKFILE (N'TEST_APP_Log' , 0, TRUNCATEONLY) GO I just want to truncate the logs.

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              • A Azam Niaz Ch

                Please see the generated script USE [TEST_APP] GO DBCC SHRINKFILE (N'TEST_APP_Log' , 0, TRUNCATEONLY) GO I just want to truncate the logs.

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                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                TRUNCATE_ONLY option does not reorganize the file but try to free the empty block at the end of the log file...It is possible that without page-reorganization there is no actual space to free... Instead of TRUNCATE_ONLY use tager_size...

                DBCC SHRINKFILE('your-log-file', 200) -- for 200 MB

                It will take much more time as SQL will try to reorganize pages inside the log file and drop them if marked properly by the backup process...

                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  TRUNCATE_ONLY option does not reorganize the file but try to free the empty block at the end of the log file...It is possible that without page-reorganization there is no actual space to free... Instead of TRUNCATE_ONLY use tager_size...

                  DBCC SHRINKFILE('your-log-file', 200) -- for 200 MB

                  It will take much more time as SQL will try to reorganize pages inside the log file and drop them if marked properly by the backup process...

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                  Azam Niaz Ch
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                  I just need some help to configure the DB as when i take bake up of LDF then DB must truncate the logs and LDF again in 2mb size. is it possible ? i am doing the same exercise on another DB but on this i am failed.

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                  • A Azam Niaz Ch

                    I just need some help to configure the DB as when i take bake up of LDF then DB must truncate the logs and LDF again in 2mb size. is it possible ? i am doing the same exercise on another DB but on this i am failed.

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                    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                    Not with your model...

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                      Not with your model...

                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                      Azam Niaz Ch
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                      Can i change the model ? how ?

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                      • A Azam Niaz Ch

                        Can i change the model ? how ?

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                        ALTER DATABASE [your-database-name] SET RECOVERY SIMPLE;

                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                          ALTER DATABASE [your-database-name] SET RECOVERY SIMPLE;

                          Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                          Azam Niaz Ch
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                          my issue is still with me. on recovery model simple nothing happend ... can you suggest me some more options??

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                          • A Azam Niaz Ch

                            my issue is still with me. on recovery model simple nothing happend ... can you suggest me some more options??

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                            Corporal Agarn
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                            After changing to simple try shrinking the log file

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                            • A Azam Niaz Ch

                              my issue is still with me. on recovery model simple nothing happend ... can you suggest me some more options??

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                              Are you using replication?

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                                Are you using replication?

                                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                Azam Niaz Ch
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                                No i am not using replication

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                                • A Azam Niaz Ch

                                  No i am not using replication

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                                  In which case all you need to read this article[^]

                                  “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                                  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                    ALTER DATABASE [your-database-name] SET RECOVERY SIMPLE;

                                    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                    how can i check which one is my current recovery model?? i change it from DB options but on changing full to simple LOG backup is not possible... ** DB is showing its size 221GB including log instead of showing only MDF file size ? what should i do next ?

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                                      ALTER DATABASE [your-database-name] SET RECOVERY SIMPLE;

                                      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                                      Azam Niaz Ch
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                                      how can i check the old recovery model? i try to change it from DB options but after changing to simple LOGS backup is not possible. DB is showing its size 221GB including LDF size.. Any suggestion to get out from this issue.

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                                      • A Azam Niaz Ch

                                        No i am not using replication

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                                        Try running the following query:

                                        SELECT
                                        [name],
                                        recovery_model_desc,
                                        log_reuse_wait_desc
                                        FROM
                                        sys.databases
                                        WHERE
                                        [name] = 'YourDatabaseName'

                                        Compare the value returned to the list on TechNet: Factors That Can Delay Log Truncation[^]


                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                                        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                                        • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                          Try running the following query:

                                          SELECT
                                          [name],
                                          recovery_model_desc,
                                          log_reuse_wait_desc
                                          FROM
                                          sys.databases
                                          WHERE
                                          [name] = 'YourDatabaseName'

                                          Compare the value returned to the list on TechNet: Factors That Can Delay Log Truncation[^]


                                          "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                          Azam Niaz Ch
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                                          running this query, i come to know that log_reuse_wait_desc is REPLICATION. what should i do next ?

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