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Switch boolean.... (reinventing if, unnecessarily)

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  • S Simon ORiordan from UK

    In my experience Microsoft is pretty much immune to optimisation. You can reduce branching by one or two orders of magnitude and the crappy performance just doesn't budge. :zzz:

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    Lost User
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    Probably because it is a micro-optimization; you won't notice much difference if it merely saves you the toggeling of a boolean.

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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      Probably because it is a micro-optimization; you won't notice much difference if it merely saves you the toggeling of a boolean.

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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      Simon ORiordan from UK
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      Ha! It was actually an image processing filter mask which used pointer arithmetic. I invented something I called a Summation Threshold Filter which should have been ten times quicker than a Median filter. Let's just say that this was not apparent. :laugh:

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      • S Simon ORiordan from UK

        The advantage of a switch is that it bails as soon as a test passes, thus reducing conditional branching. Here you could use an if else.

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        Scott Corbett
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        Umm...that's not true. A switch will continue to fall through until you get to a break statement or the end of the switch (i.e. the default case.) On the other hand, if/else statements do bail as soon as the first passing conditional is found and the associated code block is executed.

        Scott E. Corbett

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        • R Rob Grainger

          Came across this kind of code today...

          void EnableFromValue(bool enabled)
          {
          switch (enabled) {
          case true:
          FirstControl.Enabled = true;
          SecondControl.Enabled = true;
          ...
          break;
          case false:
          FirstControl.Enabled = false;
          SecondControl.Enabled = false;
          ...
          break;
          }
          }

          I'm sure there must be a better way ;-)

          "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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          FirstControl.Enabled = !FirstControl.Enabled;
          SecondControl.Enabled = !SecondControl.Enabled;

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          • R Rob Grainger

            That's the gist of it yep. This is in an MVVM app, using a framework I architected. Sadly, one of the dev's has a habit of naming View Model fields too literally after the thing in the View, so it still ends up looking like code manipulating the view directly (and at the other extreme, a hell of a lot of business logic has polluted the view model). So, while the controls may not be called "FirstControl" etc., its really not that far off - properties with names like "CustomerListBoxSelectedCustomer". I try to clear up as much as I can as I work with stuff, but it seems some people just don't want to learn to work with architecture.

            "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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            • S Scott Corbett

              Umm...that's not true. A switch will continue to fall through until you get to a break statement or the end of the switch (i.e. the default case.) On the other hand, if/else statements do bail as soon as the first passing conditional is found and the associated code block is executed.

              Scott E. Corbett

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              Richard Deeming
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              Scott Corbett wrote:

              A switch will continue to fall through until you get to a break statement or the end of the switch (i.e. the default case.)

              Not in C# - every case is required to have a terminating statement (break, goto, return or throw).

              switch (C# Reference)[^]:

              Unlike C++, C# does not allow execution to continue from one switch section to the next. ... C# requires the end of switch sections, including the final one, to be unreachable. That is, unlike some other languages, your code may not fall through into the next switch section.


              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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              • F Freak30

                I see a reason for the function but not for the switch statement. Except if you are paid by lines of code of course. :-D

                The good thing about pessimism is, that you are always either right or pleasently surprised.

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                Jeremy Falcon
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                Totally agree.

                Jeremy Falcon

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                • R Rob Grainger

                  Came across this kind of code today...

                  void EnableFromValue(bool enabled)
                  {
                  switch (enabled) {
                  case true:
                  FirstControl.Enabled = true;
                  SecondControl.Enabled = true;
                  ...
                  break;
                  case false:
                  FirstControl.Enabled = false;
                  SecondControl.Enabled = false;
                  ...
                  break;
                  }
                  }

                  I'm sure there must be a better way ;-)

                  "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                  Basketcase Software
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                  Couldn't resist:

                  void EnableFromValue(bool enabled)
                  {
                  FirstControl.Enabled = enabled;
                  SecondControl.Enabled = enabled;
                  ...
                  }

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                  • S Scott Corbett

                    Umm...that's not true. A switch will continue to fall through until you get to a break statement or the end of the switch (i.e. the default case.) On the other hand, if/else statements do bail as soon as the first passing conditional is found and the associated code block is executed.

                    Scott E. Corbett

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                    ttennebb
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                    I believe a switch is just a calculated jump statement. It doesn't work it's way through all the previous possibilities. Yes. Once calculated, the program goes to the break statement then jumps out appropriately. Switch statements are quite fast. In this case, I don't see advantage either way as an if statement is very simple too.

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                    • R Rob Grainger

                      Came across this kind of code today...

                      void EnableFromValue(bool enabled)
                      {
                      switch (enabled) {
                      case true:
                      FirstControl.Enabled = true;
                      SecondControl.Enabled = true;
                      ...
                      break;
                      case false:
                      FirstControl.Enabled = false;
                      SecondControl.Enabled = false;
                      ...
                      break;
                      }
                      }

                      I'm sure there must be a better way ;-)

                      "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                      Javier jimenez Rico
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                      it is simple : void EnableFromValue(bool ?enabled) { FirstControl.Enabled=enabled.HasValue?enabled.Value:false; SecondControl.Enabled=enabled.HasValue?enabled.Value:false; }

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                      • J Javier jimenez Rico

                        it is simple : void EnableFromValue(bool ?enabled) { FirstControl.Enabled=enabled.HasValue?enabled.Value:false; SecondControl.Enabled=enabled.HasValue?enabled.Value:false; }

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                        Member 11594914
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                        This works for me FirstControl.Enabled = SecondControl.Enabled = (enabled) ? false : true;

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                        • F Freak30

                          I see a reason for the function but not for the switch statement. Except if you are paid by lines of code of course. :-D

                          The good thing about pessimism is, that you are always either right or pleasently surprised.

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                          Bruce Patin
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                          I have code like that. It is the "..." that is significant. For some objects, you can't just set enable = false, you have to do other things. And, in some cases, one switch branch will enable some fields and disable others.

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                          • S Silvabolt

                            So better way is this?

                            FirstControl.Enabled = enabled;
                            SecondControl.Enabled = enabled;

                            or better yet, MVVM would help if applicable to the app.

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                            Bruce Patin
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                            I have code like that, but sometimes it is not so simple. Not all objects have an "enabled" property, and sometimes I may need to enable some and disable others. Keeping the switch, or at least an "if ... else" structure, makes for more clarity, just in case these oddball things are necessary.

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                              This works for me FirstControl.Enabled = SecondControl.Enabled = (enabled) ? false : true;

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                              DanKorn
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                              LOL! I recently went through my company's entire code base to purge out constructs such as "? true : false". Even more fun were comparisons such as "if (some_int_var == TRUE)". That's great unless, say "TRUE" is defined as 1 and your variable is set to -1.

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                              • B Bruce Patin

                                I have code like that. It is the "..." that is significant. For some objects, you can't just set enable = false, you have to do other things. And, in some cases, one switch branch will enable some fields and disable others.

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                                jibalt
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                                So do other things in the switch, but set the common values just once outside the switch ... duh. It's the DRY principle, and duplicating the code in each branch of the switch is not only stupid, but error prone.

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                                • D DanKorn

                                  LOL! I recently went through my company's entire code base to purge out constructs such as "? true : false". Even more fun were comparisons such as "if (some_int_var == TRUE)". That's great unless, say "TRUE" is defined as 1 and your variable is set to -1.

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                                  Look. this construct is a perfect alternating on/off switch. I've used it exclusively over past 10 years. There is no valid reason not to use it, especially if you favor Clean, concise, easy to understand code. Different strokes ... Tony d

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                                    Look. this construct is a perfect alternating on/off switch. I've used it exclusively over past 10 years. There is no valid reason not to use it, especially if you favor Clean, concise, easy to understand code. Different strokes ... Tony d

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                                    DanKorn
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                                    No, "? false : true" is still superfluous. Just use ! (the not operator). It's certainly more concise, and I would argue, even cleaner and easier to understand. FirstControl.Enabled = SecondControl.Enabled = !enabled;

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                                    • D DanKorn

                                      No, "? false : true" is still superfluous. Just use ! (the not operator). It's certainly more concise, and I would argue, even cleaner and easier to understand. FirstControl.Enabled = SecondControl.Enabled = !enabled;

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                                      Hey Dan love the use of Boolean operators. Used them extensively in the old mainframe days when storage was measured in megabytes. When working with 16mb system storage every byte counted. Here's an old trick to save bytes a *-6, ctr. Used this in 360/370 mainframes since adding the opcode (numeric value of 1) would save 1 byte. nice chatting with a knowledgeable tech

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                                      • S Silvabolt

                                        So better way is this?

                                        FirstControl.Enabled = enabled;
                                        SecondControl.Enabled = enabled;

                                        or better yet, MVVM would help if applicable to the app.

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                                        cramotowski
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                                        FirstControl.Enabled = SecondControl.Enabled = enabled;

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                                        • R Rob Grainger

                                          Came across this kind of code today...

                                          void EnableFromValue(bool enabled)
                                          {
                                          switch (enabled) {
                                          case true:
                                          FirstControl.Enabled = true;
                                          SecondControl.Enabled = true;
                                          ...
                                          break;
                                          case false:
                                          FirstControl.Enabled = false;
                                          SecondControl.Enabled = false;
                                          ...
                                          break;
                                          }
                                          }

                                          I'm sure there must be a better way ;-)

                                          "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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                                          Al Chak
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                                          If you are sure that the function argument named enabled is bool forever? If yes than there is no reason for the switch. If chacne to change the argument type is exist so - I would add into the switch

                                          default:
                                          FirstControl.Enabled = enabled;
                                          SecondControl.Enabled = enabled; // :laugh:

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