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DODO

Regarding our previos thread regarding Israeli people ,I have a question for you ,why does your government destroy palastinian houses and through them out of their land?,does this include living in peace,why do your soldoers kill palastinean young men,do not say this does not happen because you know it does,I dont hate you because you are an Israeli,I hate what your country reprsents,its aims ,its objectives,if you read the real tawrah you will know it is better for you to listen ot us because you belive in god and all his prophets ,we are cousins ,and of course you know that you government leads american government and this war is a golden chance for them to destroy more houses and kill more innocent people,what do you expect from a person who lost his home,job,family by your people the only thing he can give now to defend them selves is their lives ,hope they are all in heaven,of course we can live in peace but in one case if palastineans are controlling their land once again ,and this will happen it is written in the quran ,and you as a jew must belive in quran as we belive in tawrah La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

Felix Gartsman

Samer12 wrote: I have a question for you ,why does your government destroy palastinian houses and through them out of their land?, To deter terror and minimize civilian casulties. As for "threw them out of their land", please remember who started the wars when the land was taken. You can't start a war, lose it and complain about the results. Palestinians will receive portions of the land (4 july '67 +-) when recognize it will be with the jews, not instead. Samer12 wrote: why do your soldoers kill palastinean young men,do not say this does not happen because you know it does Of course it happens. But not in void, those "young men" kill (or try to) jews. If you don't defend yourself, you've no honor (honor is important not only to arabs). Samer12 wrote: if you read the real tawrah you will know it is better for you to listen ot us What is the real Torah? The one promises all land from the nile to the tiger to jews. Samer12 wrote: and this war is a golden chance for them to destroy more houses and kill more innocent people If it was Israeli desire, no single arab would live today. Samer12 wrote: and you as a jew must belive in quran as we belive in tawrah No, I don't. For me, believing in quran is a sin, sorry.

DODO

What is the real Torah? The one promises all land from the nile to the tiger to jews. No this is not the real one this is the zionist version ,dont you know your peopls history at all even Moses you betrayed ,you cannt stand to be honest and do the truth,and about the nile don't even dream of Egypt man,you once tried or they did not tell you about 67 then 73 If it was Israeli desire, no single arab would live today this the true Israeli feeling not ours I want you to stop playing dead and show the whole world your real and true feelings,stop the peace lie and tell the truth of what you realy want,I tried talking to you fairly but you did not give me the chance No, I don't. For me, believing in quran is a sin, sorry. I feel so bad for you,this sin you are talking about will be shown by mighty god him self he will show the truth to you and to us but sadly you will not be happy about it La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

DODO

If it was Israeli desire, no single arab would live today. forgot something If we are killed we will go to heaven In sha allah we hope to die defending palastine and Islam to be Shohadaa thats dying for god's sake so it is the most wellcomed thing to us La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

Felix Gartsman

Samer12 wrote: What is the real Torah? The one promises all land from the nile to the tiger to jews. No this is not the real one this is the zionist version I didn't know zionists existed 2,000 years ago to modify the scripts... Samer12 wrote: and about the nile don't even dream of Egypt man,you once tried And succeeded. Samer12 wrote: I tried talking to you fairly but you did not give me the chance I simply answered my views, sorry that they don't match Al-Jazzera reports.

DODO

And succeeded. yes like barlef ,succeeded doing what man,is this the history they teach you at school 73 battel was a remarkable one through history you got a very very bad time back then what exactly did they tell you you succeeded in we fought you in Ramadan Fasting and won we even gave you back POW what are you talking about man?,you can only sneak from the back,even now you only sneak at night to kill palastinean children and women in their houses,you killed famous Egyptian scientist just because they are brillient I didn't know zionists existed 2,000 years ago to modify the scripts... I did not know you live for 2000 years,it is not thevreal taorah I simply answered my views, sorry that they don't match Al-Jazzera reports. stop it man I know you much better ,so spare the lies try it with western people who does not speak arabic and dont know what aljazeera realy says and listen carfully unlike you we take religious matters very seriously and our belives and religions does not come from any reports it is from god and sorry if my views doesnt match zionist CNN and FOX who are owned by zionists jews or controlled La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

Felix Gartsman

Samer12 wrote: And succeeded. yes like barlef ,succeeded doing what man,is this the history they teach you at school 73 battel was a remarkable one through history you got a very very bad time back then what exactly did they tell you you succeeded in we fought you in Ramadan Fasting and won we even gave you back POW what are you talking about man? What you consider victory? Please read beyound egypt version: http://campus.northpark.edu/history/WebChron/MiddleEast/YomKippurWar.html[^]http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War[^]http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1967to1991_ykwar_course.php[^]

DODO

What you consider victory? Please read beyound egypt version I still consider it victory or else you will be having vacations in Sharm Elshiek please read beyound the zionist version La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

Felix Gartsman

Samer12 wrote: I still consider it victory or else you will be having vacations in Sharm Elshiek Excellent example. Egypt lost the war, but achieved its goal by a peace treaty! It is the better way to achieve goals. As for vacation, I prefer Eilat (Umm al Rashrash). Samer12 wrote: please read beyound the zionist version I did. I even read the Russian version, or they're zionists too?

DODO

Egypt lost the war, but achieved its goal by a peace treaty yes of course and Israel is so good to admit that this land isn't hers and give it back although you have been helped by America even then you were it's baby I prefer Eilat (Umm al Rashrash). were Egyptian Soldiers destroyed a huge ship of yours or you dont know about that either I did. I even read the Russian version and did the russian version said you won the war La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

Kant

Videotron, the Montreal-based cable company, has applied to the CRTC to have al-Jazeera, the controversial Arab news channel, added to the list of international signals available in Canada. "Yes, we have applied to get that (channel)," confirms Lise Gagne, a Videotron spokeswoman. "It's really in the hands of the CRTC.(Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission)" Vidéotron applies to carry al-Jazeera[^] Don't :beer: and drive.

Jason Henderson

This is exactly why i distrust you and your religion.

Jason Henderson
"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi

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Rama Krishna Vavilala

What is sick is that this guy thinks that he will go to heaven if he is killed. I don't know whether he is trying to purposefully cause flames or he believes all the crap he says. If they go to heaven than why are they so sad about the civilians killed in the war? They will go to heaven and enjoy 72 (number correct?) virgins. If some programmer says that stuff I am not sure what the future has in store for Arab world.

forgot something If we are killed we will go to heaven In sha allah - Samer12 (Soapbox)

DODO

Sorry ,Did not get you point and your religion sorry for your loss,what makes my religion more powerfull is that we do belive in all other religions but you dont ,does this ring any bells to you? why do I belive in christianity and in jeasus and you dont belive in Islam we have a whole Sorah in Quran Called "Mariam" and I belive in "Mariam "too,so I think this is much more objective then not beliving or you think other wise? any way this forum is by the word antiarab and antimuslim,every one tells me the I talk with hatred will I dont,I have been faced with so much anger and bad words for just trying to tell you the other point of view that you must know to think in an objective way ,may be it is my eglish,may be it is my origion that I am most prowed of,and about the heaven post,yes we know that who ever gets killed defending his religion,money,family,and himself will go to heaven that does not mean we kill our selves to go to heaven any way hope I am a bit clear and sorry I did not find something in english to send you but I am telling you do not belive the media not Cnn not aljazeera hear the story from its people La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

DODO

I don't know whether he is trying to purposefully cause flames or he believes all the crap he says I am not trying to do something ,and want to hear some of the "Crap" you belive in, Krishna,is an indian god isn't it? They will go to heaven and enjoy 72 (number correct?) virgins number is not correct and totaly wrong idea If they go to heaven than why are they so sad about the civilians killed in the war? No comment,they are not dogs they are human beings with families that are sad to lose them,but they are all in heaven in shaa allah and from your post I can guess your background about Islam,please ask before you judge La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah

Rama Krishna Vavilala

Samer12 wrote: I can guess your background about Islam,please ask before you judge There are other muslims in CP who talk very logically - Imran Farooqi, Fazlur Kabir etc. I would consid them to be a good source of what Islam is than you.

realJSOP

News flash - It's a war. People die. You people seem to think that only m,ilitary people are supposed to be killed in a war. The fact is that we're a lot better now than we were say, 60 years ago when we were bombing the shit outa Berlin. However, consider this: A civilian that works in a factory that manufactures war materials is considered a reasonable target for elimination. Skilled labor is part of what keeps a country a viable foe in a war. We dropped leaflets, there were reporters, it was in the news. The civilians KNEW we were coming, and yet they elected to stay where they were. The military is exercising what I consider to be reasonable effort to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. We can't keep the Iraqi military from using civilian neighborhoods to park their equipment. Use your fuckin head before you post stupid shit. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends

Jason Henderson

Samer12 wrote: sorry for your loss,what makes my religion more powerfull is that we do belive in all other religions but you dont ,does this ring any bells to you? I'm sorry, but you don't believe in all other religions. I don't know what those mullahs are feeding you but its not Judaism or Christianity. If you believed in my religion, you would openly proclaim that Jesus is the Son of God. He even said so himself. So do you still believe in Jesus and what he taught, or do you take the word of Mohammed, a man? Don't say you believe in all religions because its not true. Oh, and don't give me the line that my Bible is not the true Bible. Seek the truth and you will find it. Samer12 wrote: any way this forum is by the word antiarab and antimuslim No its not. Your attitude is filled with animosity towards Jews and America. Until you become more objective, we will not respect your views. I have tried to be open to your beliefs and I am still willing to discuss things with you. But I don't appreciate the animosity and neither does anyone else. Samer12 wrote: may be it is my origion that I am most prowed of I assume you mean proud? Perhaps that is the problem. Since you believe in the other religions, maybe you've heard this: Psalm 10:4 In his pride the wicked does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God. or this: Proverbs 11:2 When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. or maybe these: Proverbs 13:10 Pride only breeds quarrels, but wisdom is found in those who take advice. Proverbs 16:18 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. Pride is not necessarily a bad thing, except when its pride in your Earthly position. Samer12 wrote: hear the story from its people It appears to most of us that the story from the people is violence, and jewish and american hatred.

Jason Henderson
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Jason Henderson

I know what you mean. They cheer when a Palestinian kills jews, but not when an arab dies from a jewish or american bullet. I don't understand. In fact, I darn glad I don't understand. Sorry I didn't respond sooner, but I didn't get an email notification of your reply.

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DODO

I assume you mean proud? all you wrote from the bible does not mean that people must be ashamed it means not over proud to think they are perfect,which I dont I belive in gid ,Jeasus,Mariam and Mohamed (Sala allah Aleah Wa salam)who you are calling a man as a christian You must belive in him from the people is violence, and jewish and american hatred 1.I dont hate America I hate its polititians that are trying to rule the world,today colin pawel says that syria is helping Iraqis(Britain is helping America)which the syrian President denied and that she must stand for what is going to happen to her because of this,look in my posts I told you all before that next is syria then saudia arabia then Egypt. 2. I dont hate jews for being jews ,What I dont belive in is what zionisim represents,wants and stand for,do you belive that they are destroying people houses to bring peace ,put your self in their place if some one took over your house,money ,land and killed your family what are you going to do? any way whather you people respect my views or not they are still my view and I am really a non violant person,I like quite,reading,I dont even watch rough sports La ILah Ila allah Mohamed Rasoul Allah